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Chris2007



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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:22 pm    Post subject: BIZARRE article about Kimchi... Reply with quote

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There are many Asian nations that have contributed to one part or another of the world vocabulary. There are the "Manila envelope," the "Chinese fire drill," the "Japanese maple," the "Indian paper," and so on.

Is there such a contribution that Korea can claim? What would be something that the world can connect to Korea? Is there anything that can be considered Korea's unique contribution to the world?

Those who are familiar with Korea would be almost unanimous in mentioning that unique Korean concoction called "Kimchi." In their minds, Kimchi and Korea are inseparable.

In many ways, Kimchi is Korea, both in the dietary sense and in the metaphorical sense. Sociologically speaking, Kimchi is everything Korea is, and vice versa, as Korea's social character can be defined by it easily and accurately. Kimchi is Korea's soul, self-image, and identifier.

Kimchi and Korea are a match made in Heaven. They are so intricately intertwined that one cannot legitimately exist without the other. Both are highly original in quality, odd and strange in substance and strong and indelible in aftertaste.

Korea without Kimchi is like a flock without its shepherd, a Catholic congregation without its priest, soldiers without their commander, children without their parents or guardians, or a bee colony without its queen bee.

Kimchi without Korea as its home, on the other hand, is like a migratory flock of birds without their homing device, completely lost and misplaced, as we cannot imagine any other culture in the world that would be so perfectly fit for Kimchi as Korea is.

Kimchi is Korea's culinary temple, its shroud of mystery and oracle, and all that is necessary and logical in Korean life. A Korean meal without Kimchi is like the arctic without its icecaps, Mt. Everest without its heigh and the Sahara without its sand. In other words, it makes all things right in Korea.

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http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2009/05/137_44192.html
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Rufus



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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the term "gook"?
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Konglishman



Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: BIZARRE article about Kimchi... Reply with quote

Chris2007 wrote:
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There are many Asian nations that have contributed to one part or another of the world vocabulary. There are the "Manila envelope," the "Chinese fire drill," the "Japanese maple," the "Indian paper," and so on.

Is there such a contribution that Korea can claim? What would be something that the world can connect to Korea? Is there anything that can be considered Korea's unique contribution to the world?

Those who are familiar with Korea would be almost unanimous in mentioning that unique Korean concoction called "Kimchi." In their minds, Kimchi and Korea are inseparable.

In many ways, Kimchi is Korea, both in the dietary sense and in the metaphorical sense. Sociologically speaking, Kimchi is everything Korea is, and vice versa, as Korea's social character can be defined by it easily and accurately. Kimchi is Korea's soul, self-image, and identifier.

Kimchi and Korea are a match made in Heaven. They are so intricately intertwined that one cannot legitimately exist without the other. Both are highly original in quality, odd and strange in substance and strong and indelible in aftertaste.

Korea without Kimchi is like a flock without its shepherd, a Catholic congregation without its priest, soldiers without their commander, children without their parents or guardians, or a bee colony without its queen bee.

Kimchi without Korea as its home, on the other hand, is like a migratory flock of birds without their homing device, completely lost and misplaced, as we cannot imagine any other culture in the world that would be so perfectly fit for Kimchi as Korea is.

Kimchi is Korea's culinary temple, its shroud of mystery and oracle, and all that is necessary and logical in Korean life. A Korean meal without Kimchi is like the arctic without its icecaps, Mt. Everest without its heigh and the Sahara without its sand. In other words, it makes all things right in Korea.

Article continued at:
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2009/05/137_44192.html


Of course, as with everything, something done in excess is not good. I don't suppose that Jon Huer has heard that eating lots of kimchi greatly increases the risk of stomach cancer.
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dmbfan



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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kimchi is everything Korea is, and vice versa




Kimchi is peasant food.


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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: BIZARRE article about Kimchi... Reply with quote

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There are many Asian nations that have contributed to one part or another of the world vocabulary. There are the "Manila envelope," the "Chinese fire drill," the "Japanese maple," the "Indian paper," and so on.

Is there such a contribution that Korea can claim?

Taekwondo.


END OF THREAD

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Frankly Mr Shankly



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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and yet it is made from Chinese cabbage. Strange.
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hogwonguy1979



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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the author of this article says it all...


...jon heuer butt kissing gyopo of the year
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Scotticus



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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon Huer wrote:
To most foreigners, Kimchi is just too spicy, too pungent, and too hot, almost like Korean culture itself, to make it a routine part of their daily menu.


No, no. This HAS to be a joke. No one outside of Korea nationals actually believes this, right? I mean, I knew this guy was out of touch with actual expat life in this country, but this is just above and beyond clueless - it's bordering on delusional.
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moosehead



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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so K wants to be remembered as smelly, sour, acid-reflux-inducing, nasty looking, unappealing, not-all-it's-cracked-up-to-be??

yeah, ok, works for me.

Shocked
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John_ESL_White



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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for providing an article for discussion for my morning adult class.
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Robot_Teacher



Joined: 18 Feb 2009
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does kimchee cure swine flu cases?


Kimchee, like German saur kraut, sustained human civilizations for thousands of years through cold Winters when no vegetables were available to provide vitamin C and other nutrients. It's a basic survival food and makes good sense if you don't have a global economy consistently and reliably bringing in fruits and vegetables as was the case until recent times.

I prefer the fruits and vegetables over fermented cabbage, but I understand why fermented cabbage is eaten and that's Winter and Spring food when nothing is growing and producing in temperate climates. Today, Korea eats kimchee, not for sustaining nutrition through the cold Winters, but in attempt to preserve a traditional national identity. Little is traditional about Korea on the surface, but the mentality is traditional mindset meets the 21st century in a struggle to preserve traditionalism while ambitiously turning into a modern international hi tech civilization becuase the government said to do so, but the people seem to be indifferent on internationalizing. Kimchee is King.

How does Korea live without Prilosec OTC omeprazole tablets not being commonly available?
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xeno439



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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rufus wrote:
What about the term "gook"?

http://kpearson.faculty.tcnj.edu/Dictionary/gook.htm

There is a theory about it deriving from American involvement in the Philippines in 1899, but I think it definitely derived from the Korean War and made its way to Vietnam and beyond.
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Robot_Teacher



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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While off topic, thanks for the interesting read. Interesting I grew up thinking a gook is derogatory term referring to Asians, particularly Vietnamese, and then came to Asian to hear gook in many gookish ways of speaking, but it's not that simple. Hangook is Korea for, "High country." Waygook is foreigner, but a Korean is not called a, "gook." And then we have Migooks for Americans. Other Western nationals are not called gooks. Mi means, "beautiful land," and I guess the gook is referring to the people as in," the gooks."

The Americans learnt it in Korea back in the 50's and then used it derogatorily in Vietnam. This is America's Asian word vocabulary invention that Korea seems to not see controversy in using, but I do. Are we in the land of gooks or what? It sounds so racists, xenophobic, and hateful to use gook.

Seem this gook thing is more negative than positive, but it's a part of common Korean speaking.
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madoka



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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xeno439 wrote:
Rufus wrote:
What about the term "gook"?

http://kpearson.faculty.tcnj.edu/Dictionary/gook.htm

There is a theory about it deriving from American involvement in the Philippines in 1899, but I think it definitely derived from the Korean War and made its way to Vietnam and beyond.


Well, IIRC the origin of "gook" is quite simple. During the Korean War, as American soldiers went by, the natives would cheer "Migook" meaning America. The soldiers heard "me gook" so they jokingly started calling the Koreans gooks. Then the term carried over during the Vietnamese War to refer to Asians in general
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Panda



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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Popular food doesnt equal to healthy food, we all know that, just like I dont understand why North Americans drink Coke while it is just some sugared water. I know Koreans who cant live without Kimchi, but I also know many foreigners who would get sick without indulging themself once in a while with junk food.

However, people only laugh at Koreans' mania to Kimchi but not at others' mania to donuts is probably because Koreans have tried way toooooooooo hard to beautify a food which actually isnt of that many functions.

Try to picture a day when Americans brag about how Coke can cure ADHD... Laughing Laughing
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