Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Harvard doc: Swine Flu created in lab
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Current Events Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:31 pm    Post subject: Harvard doc: Swine Flu created in lab Reply with quote

So it was created in a laboratory!

But don't take my word for it. Watch and listen to Harvard Public Health expert Leonard Horowitz. Transcript and references follow.


H1N1-H5N1 Flu Outbreak Implicates Anglo-American
�Vaccine Pipeline�


Los Angeles, CA� Skyrocketing stock values of Novavax, Inc.,1 precipitated by dozens of flu deaths in Mex�ico, implicates a leading Anglo-American network of genetic engineers in a conspiracy to commit genocide.

Dr. James S. Robertson, England�s leading bioengineer of flu viruses for the vaccine industry, and avid promoter of U.S. Government funding for lucrative �biodefense� contracts, along with collaborators at the US Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC), helped Novavax, Inc., in Bethesda, Maryland, produce genetically-modi�fied recombinants of the avian, swine, and Spanish flu viruses, H5N1 and H1N1, nearly identical to the unprec�edented Mexican virus that has now spread to the United States. The outbreak was precisely timed to promote the company�s new research and huge vaccine stockpiling contracts, according to Dr. Horowitz. 2

Scientists at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) are implicated through collaborations and publica�tions involving private contracts with Novavax, a company that obtains its �biosimilars� through CDC Influ�enza Branch director, Ruben O. Donis, and Dr. Rick Bright, previously working with Donis at the CDC, now Novavax�s Vice President of Global Influenza Programs.

Evidence for the conspiracy to commit deadly duplicity in the vaccine industry includes the genetic markers on the novel flu virus now spreading from Mexico to America. The virus is �genetically different from the fully human H1N1 seasonal influenza virus that has been circulating globally for the past few years,� according to Reuters and government officials. �The new flu virus contains DNA typical to avian, swine and human viruses, including elements from European and Asian swine viruses.� 3

�That is a description that is pathognomonic, or diagnostic, of a virus that came from Robertson�s circle of friends. No other group in the world takes H5N1 Asian flu infected chickens, brings them to Europe, extracts their DNA, combines their proteins with H1N1 viruses from the 1918 Spanish flu iso�late, additionally mixes in swine flu genes from pigs, then �reverse engineers� them to infect humans. The end product that Reuters describes could only end up in Mexico via the United States from Britain in care of the CDC. Ruben Donis at the CDC had to have sent them to Novavax, where Rick Bright�s team is now implicated in a conspiracy to commit genocide�the mass killing of people for profit.�
Novavax�s preliminary report in the Journal of Virology, with co-authors from the CDC in Atlanta, was posted online at the precise time Mexican officials began reporting deaths from this new strain of flu that is clearly an unprecedented recombinant of at least three H5N1 and H1N1 strains. Novavax�s Johnny-on-the-spot vaccine was prepared under the CDC�s �fast track� approval process speciously using these three strains never known to infect any human in Mexico.

Therefore, the statistical probability this virus came from this company of �experts� is extremely high. Alter�natively, anticipated arguments the virus arrived in Mexico by serendipity, at this precise time in Novavax�s history, is ridiculously remote.

�These doctor�s conflicting corporate, scientific, and financial interests evidence criminal malfeasance,� said Dr. Leonard Horowitz, an internationally known humanitarian, award winning consumer health activist, and author of sixteen books including, Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola�Nature, Accident or Intentional? His book, and associated scientific publications, have been cited by numerous authorities as providing compelling evidence the AIDS virus came from a lab.

�The most chilling evidence against the Robertson-Novavax (RN) vaccine pipeline, besides Robertson being the �gatekeeper� for multi-billion dollar vaccine stockpiling deals, is Robertson�s influence over the European Medicines Agency (EMEA)�a quasi-corporate quasi-scientific think tank serving the European [Economic] Union and drug industry�s special interests,� Dr. Horowitz said.

Dr. Robertson is the Principal Scientist in the Division of Virology at the National Institute for Biological Standards and Control (NIBSC), akin to the USFDA in the UK. During a meeting in April, 2006, discussing the standardization of influenza vaccines on behalf of the World Health Organization (WHO), it was disclosed, �the NIBSC is involved in the serological testing of vaccine trials; the preparation and distribution of influenza viruses to vaccine manufacturers; and the coordination of EU strain selection[s].� Participants disclosed the EMEA persuades vaccine makers to bank on pandemics, and �invest in pandemic vaccines with the introduction of mock up files,� which is their unassuming way of describing new laboratory engineered influenza viruses also referred to as �biosimilars.� 4

The EMEA waives regulatory fees as an additional incentive to attract more business for allegedly �biodefense.� 4

Dr. Robertson, the holder of intellectual property (IP) rights to the genetic technology used to produce the H5N1 and H1N1 �mock up files� used to develop Novavax�s vaccine, waived his ownership of the technology dur�ing the company�s research phase with a guaranteed payoff �when the vaccine is commercialized.� Robertson�s �Material Trade Agreement� (MTA), covering the transfer of these �biosimilars� to Novavax, is expected to return millions of dollars when the vaccine is sold to governments worldwide. 4

Novavax�s commercialization and promotions of their vaccine is largely based on media hype fanning fears and markets for their avian flu, Spanish flu, and swine flu concoctions. Never before this outbreak has such a virus, combining the three most feared flu strains, been identified.

Mexico�s killer, therefore, evidences a laboratory creation sourcing from either Novavax�s lab directly, or their partners at the CDC and NIBSC who maintain multimillion-dollar incentives. The company�s synchronously timed professional publications, mass media releases, product representations and commercialization, evidence financial motives to commit duplicity and mass murder.

Days ago, officials at the CDC expressed serious concerns about this novel flu strain causing a deadly pandem�ic, not disclosing their obvious knowledge that the outbreak must have sourced from the materials used in their cooperative studies with Novavax. 52

�These doctor�s conflicting corporate, scientific, and financial interests evidence criminal malfeasance. Killing dozens of people for publicity and duplicity in public health; to increase marketability of their new vaccine, is best described as serial homicide to advance genocide�the mass killing of people for profit.�

The most chilling evidence against Dr. Robertson�s EU research team, besides him being the gatekeeper and chief promoter for multi-billion dollar flu vaccine stockpiling deals, and besides his collaborators being caught red handed here by hard science and common sense, is his stated position that he believes it is wise to �prime� populations worldwide by releasing viruses he and his colleagues are creating. This warning comes from a April 27, 2006, scientific discourse in which Dr. Robertson, and members of his WHO working group, recommended his �biosimilars� be �used to prime the population in advance of the pandemic reaching the UK.�

In other words, the doctors that hold infectious disease responsibility for the world have already decided to loose their viruses on unwitting populations in advance of threatened outbreaks.


Note to Journalists: For interviews with Dr. James Robertson, the NIBSC lists his contact as: NIBSC, Blanche Lane, South Mimms Potters Bar, Herts EN6 3QG; Tel: +44 1707 641304; Fax: +44 1707 641050. Dr. Horowitz can be reached for interviews in southern California, at 949-715-2337. Ruben O. Donis;s contact information at the Influenza Branch, DVRD, NCID, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, is: Mailstop G16, 1600 Clif�ton Rd, Atlanta, GA 30333, USA; fax: 404-639-2334; email: rdonis@ cdc.gov. Dr. Rick Bright can be reached through Novavax.

REFERENCES:
(1) http://uk.reuters.com/article/governmentFilingsNews/idUKN2445216420090424
(2) http://ukpmc.ac.uk/articlerender.cgi?artid=1242433
(3) Reuters news release. FACTBOX-New flu strain is a genetic mix. April, 24, 2009. http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N23371192.htm
(4) (http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:SPJ1B5-EK3sJ:royalsociety.org/downloaddoc.asp%3Fid%3D3521+Summary+of+Oral+Evidence+Dr.+John+Wood&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a)
(5) �CDC Press Briefing Transcripts April 24, 2009�. Cdc.gov. 2009-04-24. http://www.cdc.gov/media/tran�scripts/2009/t090424.htm. Retrieved on 2009-04-25.
(6) Note: The long term risks of governments purchasing, and people accepting, vaccines for the flu are un�studied. Yet, the industry and corporate-controlled governments declare war on biology and discourage �green� alternatives to vaccinations, such as the most advanced silver hydrosols (e.g., Oxysilver) in which nano-size anti-microbial silver is bonded to the oxygen in Water. There would be no need for polluting people�s bodies, and the environment, with heavy metals such as mercury and aluminum, or suffering side effects from antibiotics, if public health officials promoted the new powerfully protective and curative silver hydrosols.


About Dr. Horowitz:

Col. Bo Gritz, the real life Rambo, and most decorated officer in American history wrote:
So far a Nobel Prize hasn't been awarded to Dr. Len Horowitz, but it should have been. He relays some of the most provocative and important information in the world today.


Col. Jack Kingston
Ret. Strategic Planner, Joint Chiefs of Staff, Pentagon
Past Chairman, National Security Advisory Board, Washington, reviewing Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola�Nature, Accident or Intentional? wrote:
In my estimation Dr. Horowitz has unearthed a covert operation run amok, that is bigger than any secret operation in U.S. history, and more momentous in it's implications to humanity than the atomic weapons 'Manhattan Project' of World War II.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bo Gritz goes far, far to the right of Rush Limbaugh, Bacasper. Way out there, that guy is.

In any case, it does not surprise me that you would see this, too, as a conspiracy theory...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you missed this part:

The most chilling evidence against Dr. Robertson�s EU research team, besides him being the gatekeeper and chief promoter for multi-billion dollar flu vaccine stockpiling deals, and besides his collaborators being caught red handed here by hard science and common sense, is his stated position that he believes it is wise to �prime� populations worldwide by releasing viruses he and his colleagues are creating. This warning comes from a April 27, 2006, scientific discourse in which Dr. Robertson, and members of his WHO working group, recommended his �biosimilars� be �used to prime the population in advance of the pandemic reaching the UK.�


The guy practically admits that they are releasing these things on the public on purpose.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Bo Gritz goes far, far to the right of Rush Limbaugh, Bacasper. Way out there, that guy is.

In any case, it does not surprise me that you would see this, too, as a conspiracy theory...

And I suppose it is just as unsurprising and tiresome to listen to you attack the messengers without addressing the facts given.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose we'll need a sticky about this eventually.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is this even being called a "swine flu" if, according to both the Mexican Department of Agriculture and Smithfield, the company that owns the pig farm just outside the epidemic's epicenter in Veracruz, no swine are infected?

Quote:
Mexican Agriculture Department inspectors found no sign of swine flu among pigs around the farm in Veracruz, and say that no infected pigs have been found yet anywhere in Mexico.


During SARS, thousands of chickens and other fowl were infected, but now not a single pig. Very strange indeed.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After reading this thread I guess swine flu = when pigs fly?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
Gopher wrote:
Bo Gritz goes far, far to the right of Rush Limbaugh, Bacasper. Way out there, that guy is.

In any case, it does not surprise me that you would see this, too, as a conspiracy theory...

And I suppose it is just as unsurprising and tiresome to listen to you attack the messengers without addressing the facts given.


Why do you need a conspiracy theory?. With the conditions at farms and slaughter houses world wide it is a surprise that there aren't more and even more serious outbreaks than this one. Duh.

Right or wrong?

ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIjanhKqVC4
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
Why do you need a conspiracy theory?. With the conditions at farms and slaughter houses world wide it is a surprise that there aren't more and even more serious outbreaks than this one. Duh.

Right or wrong?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIjanhKqVC4

Sorry, Joo, I'm missing something. Please explain how slaughterhouse conditions are conducive to the mixing of human, swine, and avian viral genomes. I missed that.

And what is the point of that video except that we should be prepared for an outbreak of flu?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
Why do you need a conspiracy theory?. With the conditions at farms and slaughter houses world wide it is a surprise that there aren't more and even more serious outbreaks than this one. Duh.

Right or wrong?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIjanhKqVC4

Sorry, Joo, I'm missing something. Please explain how slaughterhouse conditions are conducive to the mixing of human, swine, and avian viral genomes. I missed that.

And what is the point of that video except that we should be prepared for an outbreak of flu?


Where is it that the virus is such a mix?

When animals are in close proximity then it is likely that they will spread disease to one another.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm supportive of this report but I do have a problem with Dr. Horowitz promoting a different product at the end of his report - if you go to www.oxysilver.com as he said, it's quite commercial as well.

also all flu vaccinations are based on the spanish flu virus; Horowitz throwing that in there only makes it sound worse than it is - he knows this, no doubt.

his credibility drops because of these 2 glitches; am wondering if there are more I missed?

just sayin'
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
Where is it that the virus is such a mix?

So, Joo, you respond to these threads without ever reading the OP?

Try it.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reassortment


Quote:
Reassortment
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search

The process of reassortment in biotechnologyReassortment is the mixing of the genetic material of two similar viruses that are infecting the same cell. In particular, reassortment occurs among influenza viruses, whose genomes consist of eight distinct segments of RNA. These segments act like mini-chromosomes, and each time a flu virus is assembled, it requires one copy of each segment.

If a single host (a human, a chicken, or other animal) is infected by two different strains of the influenza virus, then it is possible that new assembled viral particles will be created from segments whose origin is mixed, some coming from one strain and some coming from another. The new reassortant strain will share properties of both of its parental lineages.

Reassortment is responsible for some of the major genetic shifts in the history of the influenza virus. The 1957 and 1968 pandemic flu strains were caused by reassortment between an avian virus and a human virus, whereas the H1N1 virus responsible for the 2009 swine flu outbreak had an unusual mix of swine, avian and human influenza genetic sequences.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reassortment
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uh yeah way to go joo - counter legit reports w/something from wiki Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moosehead wrote:
I'm supportive of this report but I do have a problem with Dr. Horowitz promoting a different product at the end of his report - if you go to www.oxysilver.com as he said, it's quite commercial as well.

Yes, that was a bit disappointing, but I don't think it negates any of his claims.

Can you document that "all flu vaccines are developed from the
Spanish flu?" My understanding is that a new virus must appear before a new vaccine is developed from it.


Last edited by bacasper on Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:48 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Current Events Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Page 1 of 4

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International