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danseonsaeng
Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 5:55 pm Post subject: University jobs in Seoul starting August or September '09 |
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I have a BA and one year of teaching experience at a public middle school in Seoul. I've been told I could be eligible to teach at a university (granted, on the lower end of the pay scale, but still...). I don't mind 'doing time' at one of the less desirable university positions while I'm getting my MA...just lookin' for those that might accept me with what little experience I have.
I've heard Hongik's an option...are there any others? Ewha? Yonsei? Any recommendations?
When and where do these jobs listings start popping up? Hongik's site hasn't been updated with information for the Fall semester; same with Ewha (actually, I couldn't find employment information of any kind on their website).
What do you guys think? |
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njp6

Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Location: Gangnam, South Korea
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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I wish I had some input on this, but I'm just as curious as you are.
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michaelambling
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Location: Paradise
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Stay away from rural universities--the working and living conditions are appalling at most places, and the isolation and distance from English-speaking Koreans makes everything difficult; plus, if you have a disagreement with your university (as I've had), going through the MoL or immigration outside of Seoul is a nightmare. |
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danseonsaeng
Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Definitely only considering universities in Seoul.
Anyone else know anything? |
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The Grumpy Senator

Joined: 13 Jan 2008 Location: Up and down the 6 line
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Most of the Uni's in Seoul will require a Master's degree. If they do hire those with BA's, they generally want more than 1 year experience (3 is the norm).
Yonsei, Honik and Ehwa will have about 400 applicants each, most with Master's degrees and Uni experience. But, it does not hurt to try. Brush up on your teaching methodologies and be prepared to discuss them.
Your best bet is to network and met people who work at Uni's. Many of us got the job through someone we know. 1 year experience in Korea? You have not "done time" yet.
Keep a look out on the job postings here, maybe go to some Uni's and talk to them. I think it is Beaver (a poster on here) that outlined a portfolio for getting a Uni job.
Good luck. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 12:50 am Post subject: Re: University jobs in Seoul starting August or September '0 |
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danseonsaeng wrote: |
I don't mind 'doing time' at one of the less desirable university positions while I'm getting my MA... |
The less desirable positions that count as doing time are all outside of Seoul.  |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:15 am Post subject: |
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Here is an official ranking of universities and how they break down in terms of pay, the hour required, etc. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:25 am Post subject: |
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I think after digging I found the portfolio thread. |
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makemischief

Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Location: Traveling
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Yonsei (not the FLI) finished accepting applications April 30th. Ehwa and Hongik, no clue. Good luck! |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:05 am Post subject: |
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To put it simply, you will not get a good uni job. The only ones you may be able to land are the ones nobody else wants. With Hongik and EWHA you won't even come close to getting an interview. You need at least a couple more years experience before you get any job that is worth getting.
I forgot to add what else I was going to say. If you truly have a chance of getting a half-decent uni job, you need to know someone that can get you hired. |
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The_Source

Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: University jobs in Seoul starting August or September '0 |
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danseonsaeng wrote: |
I don't mind 'doing time' at one of the less desirable university positions |
Think long and hard about what you're saying here. An undesirable university job can be just as bad as an undesirable hagwon. (I have personally experienced both.)
The only way "doing time" at a university will help you is if you complete at least a one-year contract. If the job becomes so intolerable that you wind up quitting early, you will have a resume with a university job of less than one year. That looks worse than a resume with no university experience at all. |
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: The Y.C.
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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danseonsaeng wrote: |
Definitely only considering universities in Seoul.
Anyone else know anything? |
You have absolutely no shot unless: you are really good looking, you absolutely nail the interview, or wait until late August and hope that somebody cancels at the last minute.
But, with 1 year experience and a BA, you likely won't see an interview at any of the good unis. Best to take a college job in Suwon or the surrounding area for a year and try and come back into the city next year. |
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Hyeon Een

Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Saying he has no shot is a little unfair. My uni has hired 2 or 3 people with only BAs and a year of experience in the past. We only hire through recommendation and this sometimes leads to hiring less experienced or less qualified applicants, however they have all worked out very well.
The OP's best bet is to meet as many people who work in universities and the 2 year colleges as possible. Getting hired through a contact will be much easier with his education and experience level than applying for a job which is likely to have 100 other more experienced and/or more qualified applicants.
I know at least 6 people with decent jobs at either colleges or universities. Full vacations, working 10-14hrs a week, pay 2.2-2.8 with just BAs etc.
How do you meet university and college instructors so you can get these non-advertised jobs? I don't really know haha. Some hang out in bars, some are involved in various clubs etc. The only place I can think of where you're likely to meet a good number of uni or college workers would be something like a KOTESOL conference. If you go to one of those and network well you should be able to make some contacts who might be able to help you out in the future. |
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hantak
Joined: 21 May 2009
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 2:25 am Post subject: |
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Sorry to bump a somewhat old thread, but I have a question similar to the OP's.
I'm looking into English teaching opportunities in Seoul. I'm wondering what my chances are at landing a university job.
I have a B.S. in Mathematics & Computer Science and a M.S. in Computer Science. While getting my M.S. I was a research assistant and published a couple papers.
I have no formal teaching experience apart from private tutoring and a couple classes on "how to teach" while getting my M.S.
I'm planning on getting certified online, but if people think it would help my chances I'll find a more hands-on certification course. |
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makemischief

Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Location: Traveling
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 4:47 am Post subject: |
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Without a PhD or a year (or more) experience teaching (preferably in Korea) it would be hard even with a masters to get a uni job. not impossible (there's always someone)- work at a public school a year and you could hypothetically swing it. |
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