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Zantetsuken
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 Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:44 pm Post subject: Becoming a "real" teacher |
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| Anybody here up for the challenge? Anyone here want to go through a Korean education cerfication program and pass the Korean govt. certification tests. Apparently if you do this you can become a real teacher and not a 보조교사 (assistant teacher). I'd like to see someone attempt this...and succeed. If I got my Korean up to snuff...hell I'd do it...to prove all the naysayers wrong. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
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You'd still need Korean citizenship.
In any event you're as 'real' as the principal and senior teachers make you out to be at a public school, regardless of what 'qualifications' you have. |
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Xuanzang
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| You really want to become an overworked K-whitey teacher? Some guy tried and failed. The bureaucracy wouldn't allow him even though he jumped through the hoops. There was a post about this a year or so ago. |
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Zantetsuken
Joined: 21 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| You really want to become an overworked K-whitey teacher? Some guy tried and failed. The bureaucracy wouldn't allow him even though he jumped through the hoops. There was a post about this a year or so ago. |
Some guy actually went through all that and still wouldn't be allowed to teach....I guess thats a little "whitey-hating" right there. |
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Zantetsuken
Joined: 21 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
You'd still need Korean citizenship.
In any event you're as 'real' as the principal and senior teachers make you out to be at a public school, regardless of what 'qualifications' you have. |
Yeah I know that even with that stuff the chances of you being on an even playing field with the other teachers is slim at best. I was just curious if anyone has ever done that.
The reason I came up with this is because I had a discussion with a lady at my school and she said that because I got one of those shiny F visa badges that if I went through the hoops..I could be one of the boys. I told her because of my white skin and round eyes that I'll never be one of the boys...no matter how well I speak or what piece of paper I got. I would just like to be proven wrong...but I think I won't...not in this lifetime. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Zantetsuken wrote: |
| Xuanzang wrote: |
| You really want to become an overworked K-whitey teacher? Some guy tried and failed. The bureaucracy wouldn't allow him even though he jumped through the hoops. There was a post about this a year or so ago. |
Some guy actually went through all that and still wouldn't be allowed to teach....I guess thats a little "whitey-hating" right there. |
It was a classic catch-22: he couldn't qualify for a Korean government job because he wasn't Korea; he couldn't qualify for an E2 job because his degree was from a Korean, not an English, university.
At any rate, if this guy was clever he'd connect with a Korean partner or spouse and use his know-how to make 6m+ / month tutoring rich HS kids, not becoming the junior teacher in charge of cleaning and landscaping at Babo Technical High School for 2m / month. |
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Xuanzang
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| Zantetsuken wrote: |
| Xuanzang wrote: |
| You really want to become an overworked K-whitey teacher? Some guy tried and failed. The bureaucracy wouldn't allow him even though he jumped through the hoops. There was a post about this a year or so ago. |
Some guy actually went through all that and still wouldn't be allowed to teach....I guess thats a little "whitey-hating" right there. |
It was a classic catch-22: he couldn't qualify for a Korean government job because he wasn't Korea; he couldn't qualify for an E2 job because his degree was from a Korean, not an English, university.
At any rate, if this guy was clever he'd connect with a Korean partner or spouse and use his know-how to make 6m+ / month tutoring rich HS kids, not becoming the junior teacher in charge of cleaning and landscaping at Babo Technical High School for 2m / month. |
That's the ticket. It might work if you had a Western degree, Korean citizenship and another degree from 교대. Would you really want to waste so much time and money just to be a lowly teacher here?
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Xuanzang wrote: |
| You really want to become an overworked K-whitey teacher? Some guy tried and failed. The bureaucracy wouldn't allow him even though he jumped through the hoops. There was a post about this a year or so ago. |
Where did you read about this? I'd be interested in reading more about this story. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Xuanzang wrote: |
| You really want to become an overworked K-whitey teacher? Some guy tried and failed. The bureaucracy wouldn't allow him even though he jumped through the hoops. There was a post about this a year or so ago. |
Where did you read about this? I'd be interested in reading more about this story. |
It's on Koreabeat somewhere. There was also an ariticle in the Times or Herald about him. |
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Zantetsuken
Joined: 21 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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I think the thing that always gets me...is that the more time I spend here....the more I realize that there really is no hope if you aren't 민족 blood. That's the absolute worst thing about living here to me.
A lot of waygooks bitch about ajummas pushing...c-blocking korean guys in clubs. Not being paid on time. Men spitting etc. That's all minor inconsequential things. (well being paid is important) The thing that always kills me is that a white dude can study Korean for 8 hours a day...take university courses for Korean..spend all kinds of time and money. Then he can go get married to a Korean lady have some kids and all that good stuff. But to the powers that be (Lee Young Chan and other ajosshi douchebags of his ilk) will still think of him like the Canadian 23 year old that just touched down in Incheon 30 minutes ago. |
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Xuanzang
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| YBS told the story better. I remember reading it here on Dave's but I dont have specific links to it. |
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Zantetsuken
Joined: 21 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Xuanzang wrote: |
| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| Zantetsuken wrote: |
| Xuanzang wrote: |
| You really want to become an overworked K-whitey teacher? Some guy tried and failed. The bureaucracy wouldn't allow him even though he jumped through the hoops. There was a post about this a year or so ago. |
Some guy actually went through all that and still wouldn't be allowed to teach....I guess thats a little "whitey-hating" right there. |
It was a classic catch-22: he couldn't qualify for a Korean government job because he wasn't Korea; he couldn't qualify for an E2 job because his degree was from a Korean, not an English, university.
At any rate, if this guy was clever he'd connect with a Korean partner or spouse and use his know-how to make 6m+ / month tutoring rich HS kids, not becoming the junior teacher in charge of cleaning and landscaping at Babo Technical High School for 2m / month. |
That's the ticket. It might work if you had a Western degree, Korean citizenship and another degree from 교대. Would you really want to waste so much time and money just to be a lowly teacher here? |
Yeah of course the better course of action is to just lay low and tutor some rich kids for 10 mil a month in gangnam or something..then go through all the rigamorole of becoming a real certified teacher and be shutdown after all that.
My point and the thing that bothers me...is that you are being told you can't do something because you don't have the pure Korean blood. |
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Xuanzang
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Zantetsuken wrote: |
I think the thing that always gets me...is that the more time I spend here....the more I realize that there really is no hope if you aren't 민족 blood. That's the absolute worst thing about living here to me.
A lot of waygooks bitch about ajummas pushing...c-blocking korean guys in clubs. Not being paid on time. Men spitting etc. That's all minor inconsequential things. (well being paid is important) The thing that always kills me is that a white dude can study Korean for 8 hours a day...take university courses for Korean..spend all kinds of time and money. Then he can go get married to a Korean lady have some kids and all that good stuff. But to the powers that be (Lee Young Chan and other ajosshi douchebags of his ilk) will still think of him like the Canadian 23 year old that just touched down in Incheon 30 minutes ago. |
Well this country will have to come to grips with integration and multiculturalism in the future. Demographics are changing...
Just take a look when you go out shopping or out and about. Many mixed couples and children.
haha pureblood  This place is swimming in the East Asian gene pool.
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Zantetsuken wrote: |
| Xuanzang wrote: |
| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| Zantetsuken wrote: |
| Xuanzang wrote: |
| You really want to become an overworked K-whitey teacher? Some guy tried and failed. The bureaucracy wouldn't allow him even though he jumped through the hoops. There was a post about this a year or so ago. |
Some guy actually went through all that and still wouldn't be allowed to teach....I guess thats a little "whitey-hating" right there. |
It was a classic catch-22: he couldn't qualify for a Korean government job because he wasn't Korea; he couldn't qualify for an E2 job because his degree was from a Korean, not an English, university.
At any rate, if this guy was clever he'd connect with a Korean partner or spouse and use his know-how to make 6m+ / month tutoring rich HS kids, not becoming the junior teacher in charge of cleaning and landscaping at Babo Technical High School for 2m / month. |
That's the ticket. It might work if you had a Western degree, Korean citizenship and another degree from 교대. Would you really want to waste so much time and money just to be a lowly teacher here? |
Yeah of course the better course of action is to just lay low and tutor some rich kids for 10 mil a month in gangnam or something..then go through all the rigamorole of becoming a real certified teacher and be shutdown after all that.
My point and the thing that bothers me...is that you are being told you can't do something because you don't have the pure Korean blood. |
Well, I think it's reasonable that you have to be a citizen to get a regular civil service job. The real test will be when some Filipina wife who's become a citizen and can talk English in circles around 99% of KETs goes through the certification process. Then it should be interesting to see what happens when Korean teachers are expected to treat her as their equal, if not a superior teacher. |
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Zantetsuken
Joined: 21 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| Zantetsuken wrote: |
| Xuanzang wrote: |
| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| Zantetsuken wrote: |
| Xuanzang wrote: |
| You really want to become an overworked K-whitey teacher? Some guy tried and failed. The bureaucracy wouldn't allow him even though he jumped through the hoops. There was a post about this a year or so ago. |
Some guy actually went through all that and still wouldn't be allowed to teach....I guess thats a little "whitey-hating" right there. |
It was a classic catch-22: he couldn't qualify for a Korean government job because he wasn't Korea; he couldn't qualify for an E2 job because his degree was from a Korean, not an English, university.
At any rate, if this guy was clever he'd connect with a Korean partner or spouse and use his know-how to make 6m+ / month tutoring rich HS kids, not becoming the junior teacher in charge of cleaning and landscaping at Babo Technical High School for 2m / month. |
That's the ticket. It might work if you had a Western degree, Korean citizenship and another degree from 교대. Would you really want to waste so much time and money just to be a lowly teacher here? |
Yeah of course the better course of action is to just lay low and tutor some rich kids for 10 mil a month in gangnam or something..then go through all the rigamorole of becoming a real certified teacher and be shutdown after all that.
My point and the thing that bothers me...is that you are being told you can't do something because you don't have the pure Korean blood. |
Well, I think it's reasonable that you have to be a citizen to get a regular civil service job. The real test will be when some Filipina wife who's become a citizen and can talk English in circles around 99% of KETs goes through the certification process. Then it should be interesting to see what happens when Korean teachers are expected to treat her as their equal, if not a superior teacher. |
While I'd like to see her treated well...I know it would never happen. From what I've heard it seems that even if you go through the process of acquiring citizenship and denouncing your original citizenship...you still won't be able to lift the "waygook" status. It's not a matter of paperwork...its that you don't look Korean...thats the most important right there. |
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