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Ending the Aid Charade: Best Ways to Help Africa
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Pluto



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:03 pm    Post subject: Ending the Aid Charade: Best Ways to Help Africa Reply with quote

In 1970, many Africans had become free people, and there was new hope for a freer more prosperous future away from European ownership. To be sure, Africa wasn�t as advanced as Western Europe or North America, but the poverty rate stood at just 10%. It is that fact, that Africa was relatively poor compared to Europe or NA that led to Western nations to give aid to African nations. Since 1970, a little more than US$1 Trillion has been donated. Most of this aid has been transferred from Western governments to African regimes via the IMF or the World Bank. Has any of this aid helped? Well, no. Nowadays, almost 70% of Africans suffer abject poverty, widespread pestilence and disease (ie. HIV/AIDS and Malaria), bleak economic growth and live under the World�s most tyrannical regimes. 50% of the World�s poor live in Sub-Saharan Africa where average GDP is one dollar per day. Since 1980, many of the World�s poor have been lifted out of abject poverty while 50% more Africans have found themselves living in abject poverty. I could go on, but there are so many things wrong on so many levels. The long and the short of it are that the money that Western donors have gone to governments. This makes governments accountable to the IMF or the World Bank as opposed to their own people for tax collections.

The best way to stop all of this nonsense is to stop donating, and start trusting in free peoples, free enterprise and free markets. This is one regard in which the West can learn a lot from China. Chinese institutions, both public and private, have done more to develop Africa in the past few years than any other country on Earth. Thousands of miles of pipelines, energy grids, roads and other critical infrastructure have mostly been funded via Chinese FDI. To be sure, the Chinese are following their self interests in pursuing what is underneath Africa�s soil (ie. Oil, gold, copper, etc.), but to say that the Chinese aren�t doing more to pulling many Africans out of poverty is just farcical. Best to follow the Chinese example, get entrepreneurs and private charities into Africa, and get governments out.

Source: Dambisa Moyo is the author of Dead Aid She can be seen here in an interview with the Australian Broadcasting Corp.
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soviet_man



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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start trusting in free peoples, free enterprise and free markets.


That is how they got into the mess to start with.

It was colonialism from Europe that was the starting point for these problems.

If they were left alone and retained their traditional indigenous structures the social and economic disruption would not have happened.
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Rusty Shackleford



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

soviet_man wrote:
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start trusting in free peoples, free enterprise and free markets.


That is how they got into the mess to start with.

It was colonialism from Europe that was the starting point for these problems.

If they were left alone and retained their traditional indigenous structures the social and economic disruption would not have happened.


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traditional indigenous structures


What wearing loin cloths and eating iguanas?

Economic growth is the cure for ALL problems. History has shown time and again that free markets are the path of least resistance to economic growth.

Maybe some of you need to brush up on ECON 101. Here is a free chapter on economic growth from a good elementary econ text.

http://worthpublishers.com/CowenTabarrokMacro/docs/CowenCH06.pdf
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RufusW



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other than FDI, which is good for large-scale projects; microfinance is probably the best method for development and should be utilized far more.
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Hater Depot



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
What wearing loin cloths and eating iguanas?


Try reading Jared Diamond's "The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race" and see if you come away so dismissive of that mode of society.

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Economic growth is the cure for ALL problems.


And of course, never causes any problems of its own.

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Maybe some of you need to brush up on ECON 101.


Sure, basic economic theory tells some very compelling stories. Ever taken a course beyond it? Or one that could put economic choices into a greater policy context?
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Fox



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Economic growth is the cure for ALL problems.


How does economic growth solve the problem of companies engaging in planned obsolescence, given planned obsolescence helps fuel economic growth? This is a behavior that is wasteful of both material and labor.
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Rusty Shackleford



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rusty Shackleford wrote:
What wearing loin cloths and eating iguanas?


Try reading Jared Diamond's "The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race" and see if you come away so dismissive of that mode of society.


Good tip, thanks. He puts forward a nice argument and I have a lot of respect for Diamond Guns, Germs and Steel is a great book, however it seems to me he is comparing apples with oranges. Maybe a peasant in the middle ages had a worse life than a prehistory hunter gatherer but to say that the hunter gatherer life is better than what is available to the average westerner today, is a little far fetched to me.

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Economic growth is the cure for ALL problems.




And of course, never causes any problems of its own.


Examples please. Most "market failures" are really govt failures, or are exacerbated by govt interventions attempting to correct said failures.

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Maybe some of you need to brush up on ECON 101.


Sure, basic economic theory tells some very compelling stories. Ever taken a course beyond it? Or one that could put economic choices into a greater policy context?
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Maybe you could point me in the right direction. Admittedly I only have a Bachelor's degree in Econ, so I can be a little dogmatic at times. Having said that, none of the material I have read in my short life has ever offered a compelling alternative to the free market.

It seems to me that leftist thinkers are very good at tearing down rational academic constructs, but have basically failed to provide a logical alternative.
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Pluto



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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soviet_man wrote:
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start trusting in free peoples, free enterprise and free markets.



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soviet_man wrote:

That is how they got into the mess to start with.

It was colonialism from Europe that was the starting point for these problems.

If they were left alone and retained their traditional indigenous structures the social and economic disruption would not have happened.


I know of no serious political scientist, economist or historian who equates 19th century European colonialism and free market capitalism as being one in the same.

The author is presenting an untried solution to an ongoing problem. It does seem to be counter-intuitive to be sure. However, we should be concerned with how to best help the individuals on the ground, as it were, as opposed to dealing directly with their respective governments.

RufusW wrote:
Other than FDI, which is good for large-scale projects; microfinance is probably the best method for development and should be utilized far more.


Yes, Niall Ferguson touched on this issue briefly in the Forward. He goes into more depth about microfinance in The Ascent of Money. Although he talks about microfinance in South America (Peru, I think). There is a documentary piece out there somewhere, I'll have to track it down.
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mises



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am hugely skeptical about micro finance. I've seen research that isn't very pretty. Paying the visa with the mastercard after the principle is blown. There have been a few success stories.

Anyways, about the OP. She gives a great interview. Here are two:

http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/04/is-aid-good-for-africa

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101986498
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Rusty Shackleford



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Economic growth is the cure for ALL problems.


How does economic growth solve the problem of companies engaging in planned obsolescence, given planned obsolescence helps fuel economic growth? This is a behavior that is wasteful of both material and labor.


You'll have to excuse me, I had to google "planned obsolescence", to find out what it meant. The wikipedia page actually does a good job of explaining this.

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Planned obsolescence tends to work best when a producer has at least an oligopoly.[7] Before introducing a planned obsolescence the producer has to know that the consumer is at least somewhat likely to buy a replacement from them. In these cases of planned obsolescence, there is an information asymmetry between the producer, who knows how long the product was designed to last, and the consumer, who does not. When a market becomes more competitive, product lifespans tend to increase. When Japanese vehicles with longer lifespans entered the American market in the 1960s and 1970s, the American carmakers were forced to respond by building more durable products.[8]


More competition leads to less "planned obsolescence". Basically you have a minor market failure, an information asymmetry, which would likely work itself out in that people would denounce the product to friends, family etc.

What regulation would you propose to correct this phenomena? Who would enforce it? How much would it cost to enforce? Who would pay for the enforcement?(we all know the answer to that one.)
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mises



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Planned obsolescence is annoying. I bought an ipod and when it died two years later I bought a replacement battery and ruined it beyond repair during the install. My solution? I don't buy products that I know are designed to fail within a time line that I believe is unreasonable.

However, planned obsolescence in most (or almost all) cases isn't really market failure nor a problem for regulatory institutions.

Kinda related:

The Japanese automakers build cars that last longer not because they are better at it, or they are just nice and kind people, but because they do not have a network of repair outlets as deep as the Big 3. This means less revenue for Honda shops and more for local, non-affiliated shops. If Honda could profit from having more repairs, as the Big 3 could, they would build that into their business models.
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Rusty Shackleford



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mises. Do iPods really have "planned obsolescence" built in? (I'm quite happy to have learned something new today! I knew firms did this but had no idea it had a name.) Granted Apple products are difficult to service for the average person, but battery technology is actually quite bad. You will notice that other types eg cell phone, mp3 and even regular batteries are really quite poor.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pluto seems to be right about China. Although they've some shady connections with Zimbabwe and Sudan, they scaled back involvement with the latter during the Olympics, and they've been pumping money throughout the rest of East Africa.
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mises



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Mises. Do iPods really have "planned obsolescence" built in? (I'm quite happy to have learned something new today! I knew firms did this but had no idea it had a name.) Granted Apple products are difficult to service for the average person, but battery technology is actually quite bad. You will notice that other types eg cell phone, mp3 and even regular batteries are really quite poor.


Well, they're commonly accused of it. My Creative Zen works perfect after 2 years. Only a small difference in charge capacity. I've heard grumblings about the iphone having terrible batteries.
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Fox



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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
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Planned obsolescence tends to work best when a producer has at least an oligopoly.[7] Before introducing a planned obsolescence the producer has to know that the consumer is at least somewhat likely to buy a replacement from them. In these cases of planned obsolescence, there is an information asymmetry between the producer, who knows how long the product was designed to last, and the consumer, who does not. When a market becomes more competitive, product lifespans tend to increase. When Japanese vehicles with longer lifespans entered the American market in the 1960s and 1970s, the American carmakers were forced to respond by building more durable products.[8]


More competition leads to less "planned obsolescence". Basically you have a minor market failure, an information asymmetry, which would likely work itself out in that people would denounce the product to friends, family etc.


I like that that web site uses examples from the 60s and 70s because it allows us to see exactly how things are faring now as opposed to then. It hasn't gotten better; realistically, it's gotten worse. Our economy is riddled with planned obsolescence.

I'd also like to point out that the text you quoted credits business competition, not economic growth, with mitigating planned obsolescence. The two might both be things Capitalists like, but they aren't the same thing.

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
What regulation would you propose to correct this phenomena? Who would enforce it? How much would it cost to enforce? Who would pay for the enforcement?(we all know the answer to that one.)


That is a very expansive question, and to be honest, I'm not certain this is something regulation can reasonably and effectively solve in a system like ours. Communism (which, before you say it, I'm not proposing as a viable system) can solve problems like this because it's in the government's interest to build to last. In Capitalism, it's decidedly not in the interest of business owners to do the same if they can possibly avoid it, and I'm not sure any sort of regulation could fully or satisfactorily solve it (though it could help it to some extent, for example by demanding all light bulbs have a minimum life time expectancy, etc. Whether the waste reduction vs the cost of enforcement would come out positive would need to be evaluated case by case).

I merely asked because you said economic growth can solve all problems. I don't think it can solve this one; it fuels itself off of this one. Competition perhaps can, but the longer-lasting products that result mean less future consumption, which means less production, which means less economic growth.
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