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Teabonesteak
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 Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:30 pm Post subject: EXIT ORDER |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: EXIT ORDER |
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| Teabonesteak wrote: |
| What are they? What do they do? Where can I get one? |
1. An official document immigration uses to mark your leaving the country upon the expiration of a work visa (generally the E2) either by you resigning, the company or school terminating your contract, or the contract being completed for the full term of the agreement between you and the employer.
2. The document indicates the official date of your departure from the country.
3. Immigration |
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Teabonesteak
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Teabonesteak
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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sineface
Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Location: C'est magnifique
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Tob: Say you terminate your contract early, are you required to get an exit order, if you are leaving 7 seven days later? |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject: Exit |
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| sineface wrote: |
| Tob: Say you terminate your contract early, are you required to get an exit order, if you are leaving 7 seven days later? |
If you are resigning from your job and give your notice, the employer is required to visit immigration to cancel your visa. The exit order is given at the time the visa expires or is cancelled. In the case of expiration I believe people have 10 days to leave the country. In the case of cancellation I am not exactly sure how many days are given before you have to leave the country.
If you are leaving and have no issues with your employer then make sure they go down to immigration to get it done, and make sure they do not cancel it any earlier than your last day of employment, otherwise you could be stuck paying a fine for an overstay. You should probably request to go along just to make sure everything goes smoothly.
Now if you are running for some reason, then you leave the country and the immigration people at the airport may or may not take your ARC. Hopefully this is not the case. The visa will be cancelled by the employer at some time, but the consequences of your running may catch up with you if you ever plan on coming back to Korea later. Good luck, whatever the situation is. |
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sineface
Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Location: C'est magnifique
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Exit |
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| tob55 wrote: |
| sineface wrote: |
| Tob: Say you terminate your contract early, are you required to get an exit order, if you are leaving 7 seven days later? |
If you are resigning from your job and give your notice, the employer is required to visit immigration to cancel your visa. The exit order is given at the time the visa expires or is cancelled. In the case of expiration I believe people have 10 days to leave the country. In the case of cancellation I am not exactly sure how many days are given before you have to leave the country.
If you are leaving and have no issues with your employer then make sure they go down to immigration to get it done, and make sure they do not cancel it any earlier than your last day of employment, otherwise you could be stuck paying a fine for an overstay. You should probably request to go along just to make sure everything goes smoothly.
Now if you are running for some reason, then you leave the country and the immigration people at the airport may or may not take your ARC. Hopefully this is not the case. The visa will be cancelled by the employer at some time, but the consequences of your running may catch up with you if you ever plan on coming back to Korea later. Good luck, whatever the situation is. |
I'm not telling them I'm leaving, so I can't give notice. I'll be in the country for another 7 days after I quit. I won't be coming back, won't want another visa, ahve no problem handing over my arc for good. Would you recommend my going to immigration on the day I quit to cancel the visa and get an exit order? In that case, do you pay for it? |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: Exit |
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The exit order is not something you pay for. Basically, it is a document immigration issues telling you when you have to leave the country. If you are quitting your job, it is likely your boss will be upset or not, and most likely go to immigration ready to tell them all the reasons why you are a bad person, or not.
I never give out advice or comments regarding people who quit spontaneously. I have wanted to in the past, but never did because I have long term plans for living in Korea, but I do understand that some times the pressure can be too much for whatever reason. Remember, it is not likely that immigration is going to put an APB (All Points Bulletin) on you seeking your apprehension. You are for all practical purposes "running" under whatever circumstances this term applies. Your boss will be displeased, others from the forum may give you grief for being this or that, but in the end it is your decision to do what you feel is best for you. I wish you well in your future interests and try and remember the good things you may have experienced in this country. It really isn't that bad when you compare it to other places in the world. I would never have said that five years ago, but time has a way of opening your eyes to the good in life, no matter where you live. |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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sineface,
I think the Exit Order is so you can better get back into the country when you want another job in Korea. Giving your ARC card helps I understand also in this process. If you get neither, it is more difficult I think to come back.
This is just from what I have read. If you want to go and not come back and want 7 days, I suggest you try to get some vacation days or pretend you are very sick or something. Then leave.
I wouldn't want to give the school time to go to immigration and complain about you. However, I guess technically, they can cancel your visa and then you should have at least a week to leave which you already mentioned you would. So, it doesn't sound like you would be that bad off.
You could also leave immediately on your own accord, and then return on a tourist visa. That way you could stay however long you want under the tourist visa and I don't think the school can do anything while you are here during that time.
I try to remove myself from schools as quickly as possible with no transition period. It saves tension and secures against any backlash. |
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sineface
Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Location: C'est magnifique
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies guys, that helped a lot.
Reason I'm leaving and am in this little quandry:
I met and married my American husband here. We've been here together for over 3 years. He's in the military, and we now have orders to leave and go back to the US. I've been working as a teacher this whole time, and know how this game goes. If I had given even a hint of my leaving to the company, I could kiss goodbye to my final pay cheque. It's a shame, but a reality we are all aware of. I don't figure it to be running, just quitting without notice, which is allowed in my contract if I have unavoidable cause. I do. Thus, I am waiting until my last pay day, then quitting, and we are scheduled to fly out 7 days later. I won't be returning, and haven't ever broken any laws that my employer could use to get immigration on my back. He can cry all he wants, to whoever he wants, we're on orders out of here and there will be no stopping me!
Tob, you're right about it not being all that bad. It's given me a lot in the years I've been here, but it's time for us to go, and we're very pleased to be moving on.  |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I hope someone like you never ever works for me cause you would kill my business by doing such a thing. |
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sineface
Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Location: C'est magnifique
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I hope someone like you never ever works for me cause you would kill my business by doing such a thing. |
Ok, it's a deal. |
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highdials5
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| sineface wrote: |
| Juregen wrote: |
| I hope someone like you never ever works for me cause you would kill my business by doing such a thing. |
Ok, it's a deal. |
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Teabonesteak
Joined: 08 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| My situation is different from sineface. I am waiting to get paid today so I can quit on Monday. I will then make sure we all go to the immigration office to cancel my VISA and get an exit order. I WANT to come back so I've been trying to figure out the best course of action. The management is slowly becoming more underhanded and dishonest as time goes by. My Hagwon is not making a profit and the only reason he is staying open is because he wants to use the money from our remaining students to pay for the building lease (which he renewed for two more years). |
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