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Jammer113
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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As a nurse, working in the healthcare industry, I've seen these medications handed out far too often. I'm not qualified to diagnose diseases, but I have seen these drugs written after a 10 minute consultation, with no discussion about side-effects or risks, and with minimal followup.
As such, I generally agree with what DD is saying. I personally would like to see all of these medications very tightly controlled, with only psychiatrists being allowed to prescribe the medications. And further, that the prescription of these medications be followed and audited like they audit narcotic prescriptions.
Having said all of that, the OP didn't mention his condition in detail, nor when or how it was first prescribed. It is a bit presumptuous for non-doctors, over the internet, after reading a post listing no symptoms, to tell someone that they shouldn't be taking medication.
To the OP, go to a major clinic in Seoul that specializes in treating westerners (IE employs English speakers), somewhere far away from where you work (and never give them your work address or phone number). They'll know best. If you're not willing to risk the time, look up a phone number of one of the hospitals for westerners on the internet and ask them. Bring the doctor your prescription and have him verify you with a checkup. It takes a few hours out of your day, but it should be very cheap.
I don't know if dexedrine is legal, but I wouldn't want anything banned in Korea in my household. Koreans are very very protective about drug use. Even if you're technically on the right side of the law, you could get severely burned if you ever have to go to court without a good lawyer (and how are you going to find a good lawyer?) OP, have you tried numerous other medications and none of them but Dexedrine worked? If it was the only one ever prescribed, it might be worth it to try a different medication if you have to. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Good to see someone else who knows what they are talking about. It's fun to write about health on Daves and watch the pill poppers rush to defend the drug companies.
I get the average person on this site still takes cough medicine, tums, aspirin for headaches, ect. So many people here think that health equates with being numb. If you have a symptom you must squash is the mantra on here.
I also love people who think people with degrees and certificates are gods.
It's 2009 and you can educate yourself on things such as health. If all that is coming out of your mouth is the status quo and you think alternative views are conspiracy theories, then you need course in thinking and you also need to wake up.
Modern medicine is one of the biggest scams going. Not that there is not some great docs out there, but he system is corrupt and wants your dollars.
I heard a good joke the other day... Swine Flu- hahaahahahhahhah |
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createasaurus21
Joined: 22 Feb 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, 15 replies overnight, hahha, I'm new on this board, apologies, I didn't know ADD was such a hot topic.
Funny you mention Eckhart Tolle's book, I just received it from amazon last week, I haven't read it yet, but I have read almost every book there is on ADD
I think the label exists more to you and people who don't have or know anything about ADD, than it does to me. Personally, having ADD is more like having a list of characteristics/symptoms/traits (both positive and negative) that happened to be shared with thousands of other people. The only reason why disorders are labeled disorders are because they aren't part of the majority or norm, but I like to look at them more as personality styles. It bugs me when people think I or other people with ADD cling on to it as an excuse or label. If I got the textbook list of 100 or so characteristics of people with ADD, printed it out, removed the title and showed it to me friends and family, they would all agree that it sounded 95%-100% like me. With or without the label, I identify with all the traits at high levels. And I don't mean at levels like when you read your horoscope or astrological birthday explanation full of generalities and think "omg, that's so me!"
It just so happens that people discovered there are a whole group of people who share these traits at high levels and attached a label to it. ADD does have its positive traits though ... creativity, out of the box thinking, risk taking, highly intuitive style, etc. In fact, many great entrepreneurs diagnosed with ADD say they wouldn't be where they are now without it (Steve Jobs, Richard Branson, David Neeleman and others).
True, almost everyone feels a little ADD now and then, but the difference is like sadness vs. depression. Everyone gets sad, but not everyone gets depressed... or chronically depressed.
"It is overdiagnosed in places, underdiagnosed in others. There are schools and regions where every child that blinks fast seems to be diagnosed with ADD. At the same time, there are places around the country where doctors refuse to make the diagnosis at all because they 'don't believe in ADD.' ADD is not a religious principle, it is a medical diagnosis derived from such solid evidence as genetic studies, brain scans and worldwide epidemiological surveys." �Edward Hallowell M.D.
For me, the positives outweigh the negatives even though the list of negatives is longer, and if I had a choice, I would not want to be cured from it completely. To tell you the truth, I don't even know if I want to be on medication to suppress it, but I am curious to see if it would help with the negatives in the long term. I've tried Straterra (the non-stimulant alternative) but ironically, it just made me feel high all day.
Well, thanks for the input everyone. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| createasaurus21 wrote: |
Wow, 15 replies overnight, hahha, I'm new on this board, apologies, I didn't know ADD was such a hot topic.
Funny you mention Eckhart Tolle's book, I just received it from amazon last week, I haven't read it yet, but I have read almost every book there is on ADD
I think the label exists more to you and people who don't have or know anything about ADD, than it does to me. Personally, having ADD is more like having a list of characteristics/symptoms/traits (both positive and negative) that happened to be shared with thousands of other people. The only reason why disorders are labeled disorders are because they aren't part of the majority or norm, but I like to look at them more as personality styles. It bugs me when people think I or other people with ADD cling on to it as an excuse or label. If I got the textbook list of 100 or so characteristics of people with ADD, printed it out, removed the title and showed it to me friends and family, they would all agree that it sounded 95%-100% like me. With or without the label, I identify with all the traits at high levels. And I don't mean at levels like when you read your horoscope or astrological birthday explanation full of generalities and think "omg, that's so me!"
It just so happens that people discovered there are a whole group of people who share these traits at high levels and attached a label to it. ADD does have its positive traits though ... creativity, out of the box thinking, risk taking, highly intuitive style, etc. In fact, many great entrepreneurs diagnosed with ADD say they wouldn't be where they are now without it (Steve Jobs, Richard Branson, David Neeleman and others).
True, almost everyone feels a little ADD now and then, but the difference is like sadness vs. depression. Everyone gets sad, but not everyone gets depressed... or chronically depressed.
"It is overdiagnosed in places, underdiagnosed in others. There are schools and regions where every child that blinks fast seems to be diagnosed with ADD. At the same time, there are places around the country where doctors refuse to make the diagnosis at all because they 'don't believe in ADD.' ADD is not a religious principle, it is a medical diagnosis derived from such solid evidence as genetic studies, brain scans and worldwide epidemiological surveys." �Edward Hallowell M.D.
For me, the positives outweigh the negatives even though the list of negatives is longer, and if I had a choice, I would not want to be cured from it completely. To tell you the truth, I don't even know if I want to be on medication to suppress it, but I am curious to see if it would help with the negatives in the long term. I've tried Straterra (the non-stimulant alternative) but ironically, it just made me feel high all day.
Well, thanks for the input everyone. |
You sound very right hemispere dominant. Be careful of the left brainers trying to put you back in their logical box. I have been lucky to meet some highly gifted people that would be diagnosed as having mental problems. These people are leaders in their fields and pioneer in new stuff, but would be diagnosed as being abnormal.
Cool timing on the arrival of the book. I hope you learn to put the left brain logical thinking in it's place.
The mind is a tool that we should use when we need it and when we don't it should be quiet. |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 12:37 am Post subject: Re: ADHD Presctiption Medication |
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What ADHD medications are legal in Korea? Is Dexedrine still illegal? I was prescribed Dexedrine last year in the states and it worked well for me, but when my prescription ran out, I never bothered to go out of my way to get a new since I've been living in Korea.
I read something online that said Dexedrine was illegal here, but the post was years old, has anything changed? And if it is still illegal, is it also illegal to have Dexedrine sent to Korea even WITH a prescription? Is it illegal to possess it in general? |
I get my prescription of Concerta 27mg and Ritalin 10mg filled at the international clinic in Itaewon. When I first went there to get my prescription filled I had to bring a letter my doctor in Ireland stating what I was being prescribed and why. |
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createasaurus21
Joined: 22 Feb 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Yes, very right hemisphere dominant It's what separates the humans from the robots! I've actually only met two people my whole life that use both hemispheres at optimal levels, and unfortunately, one of them is starting to drift more towards the left.
I've always been very right brain, but after 4 years of art school and 4 years in the creative industry, I almost feel like my left logic side has gone dormant. I've recently gotten back into the classroom and am feeling the negative ADD traits more than ever. |
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RobLeeTeach
Joined: 20 May 2009
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:22 am Post subject: Re: ADHD Presctiption Medication |
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| blade wrote: |
I get my prescription of Concerta 27mg and Ritalin 10mg filled at the international clinic in Itaewon. When I first went there to get my prescription filled I had to bring a letter my doctor in Ireland stating what I was being prescribed and why. |
Any way of getting an ADD/ADHD prescription with an evaluation from a Korean doctor? I used to get it prescribed to me in the States, but I haven't had health insurance for over a year so I can't afford to go to a doctor now. I'm looking forward to getting insurance once my job starts. I have old prescription bottles, but they're dated over a year ago. |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: ADHD Presctiption Medication |
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| RobLeeTeach wrote: |
| blade wrote: |
I get my prescription of Concerta 27mg and Ritalin 10mg filled at the international clinic in Itaewon. When I first went there to get my prescription filled I had to bring a letter my doctor in Ireland stating what I was being prescribed and why. |
Any way of getting an ADD/ADHD prescription with an evaluation from a Korean doctor? I used to get it prescribed to me in the States, but I haven't had health insurance for over a year so I can't afford to go to a doctor now. I'm looking forward to getting insurance once my job starts. I have old prescription bottles, but they're dated over a year ago. |
Doctor Mike in the international clinic should be able to help you.
http://www.internationalclinic.co.kr/AP/AP_1.asp
http://www.internationalclinic.co.kr/MT/ADD.asp |
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