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Slaps



Joined: 22 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject: Police want to bring back cannabis tests Reply with quote

Looks like the cops want tougher entry requirements.

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Korea still lacks the manpower needed to screen out foreign drug users from attaining work visas, it has been claimed ㅡ even though it is mandatory for foreign English teacher hopefuls to submit a criminal background check and health data including HIV-AIDS and drug-test results.

Despite the requirements being in place since December 2007, stories of drug-using foreign teachers have continued to capture newspaper headlines.

Six foreign English teachers ㅡ three Canadians, two Americans and a New Zealander ㅡ were arrested Friday on charges of smoking hashish, a more potent cannabis product than marijuana.

Some of them allegedly taught students while intoxicated at elementary schools.

In response, police have called for tighter immigration procedures.


Read the rest here: http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/05/117_44600.html

I wonder what ATEK will do about this???
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losing_touch



Joined: 26 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell, I say bring it on!
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sinsanri



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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope Korea does bring back the test as it seems some NEts cannot be responsible enough and still want to ruin things for everyone else. ATEk can't do a thing, they have openly stated that they do not want the test done.

To flip flop now would end their involvement in anything, teachers deserve better than an organization that cannot stand up for what it believes.

Unless they publically, honestly, sincerely apologize for their stand agaisnt drug tests and admit they were wrong, anything they say or do will undermine what little credibility they have left--which is about none.
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, bring it on.

All you have to do is state boldly what the test will be an there will be no problems. Those who smoke occasionally while at home, will know the score, kick the habit and pass the test with flying colours, while those who are unwilling/unable to kick the habit will hopefully go elsewhere.


PS. Regardless of your opinion of smoking weed, one can only agree that every time a bunch of NTs get caught BREAKING THE LAW, it makes us all look bad.
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cruisemonkey



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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who cares?

Most K cops find it an imposition to mediate a 'blood money' dispute. Laughing
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esetters21



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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, so what? Should this really be an issue?
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about N\not just an entry test, but put us on random monthly tests. (At employer expense of course) Then maybe we can finally shake the 'druggie' part of our reputation.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
How about not just an entry test, but put us on random monthly tests. (At employer expense of course) Then maybe we can finally shake the 'druggie' part of our reputation.

I had a job once when I was 17 to get money over Christmas to pay for a new car stereo my mom wouldn't buy. It was at a local jewelry store. That is the only job I've ever had, the only contract I've ever had, that did not require drug testing. I don't see it as an issue. Other countries, though, have a problem with it, it's a privacy issue.
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pocariboy73



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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Police want to bring back cannabis tests Reply with quote

Slaps wrote:
Looks like the cops want tougher entry requirements.

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Korea still lacks the manpower needed to screen out foreign drug users from attaining work visas, it has been claimed ㅡ even though it is mandatory for foreign English teacher hopefuls to submit a criminal background check and health data including HIV-AIDS and drug-test results.

Despite the requirements being in place since December 2007, stories of drug-using foreign teachers have continued to capture newspaper headlines.

Six foreign English teachers ㅡ three Canadians, two Americans and a New Zealander ㅡ were arrested Friday on charges of smoking hashish, a more potent cannabis product than marijuana.

Some of them allegedly taught students while intoxicated at elementary schools.

In response, police have called for tighter immigration procedures.


Read the rest here: http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/05/117_44600.html

I wonder what ATEK will do about this???


Good, I'm all for it. Send them to jail for a few years or deport them with a big fine. The less foreign drug users in Korea, the better image for the ones who have roots here and try their best to assimulate into the cuture. I'm sick and tired of reading in the newspaper or watching the news with respect to NET's in Korea smoking or dealing pot. If you wanna do that, go back home and quit giving the rest of us a bad name.

I don't mind pissing in a cup to show that I'm not using drugs. It's not a human rights violation to me. Hell, if you wanna see real human rights violations teach in Burma or the Sudan. Pissing in a cup, doesn't bother me in the least bit.

ATEK can't do a thing about this situation. In fact, it makes ATEK look more ridiculous as every press release the keep pressing the fact that foreigner ESL teachers have never been busted for cannabis use - usuing somekind of spin on statistics to ATEK's advantage. More crap dished out by ATEK, if you ask me.


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sarbonn



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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I find drug tests to be more insulting and an inconvenience more than anything else. I never take drugs, nor will I ever do so, but I hate taking the stupid tests. I really hate having to piss into a cup, having blood drawn or whatever. I used to hate it back in the service because it was obviously mandatory there, too. I never had any fear of being "caught" when I never did anything wrong, but man, I hated those tests. I still hate them.

To me, the whole thing is a huge insult that's being waged at every foreign teacher here. Even the article that talks about it is a direct insult in the way the author tries to paint foreigners as "teaching while intoxicated". It paints a picture of the whole discipline, and it doesn't even care that it does so. Basically, it makes the veiled argument that Koreans would never take drugs, but all foreigners do.
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Sleepy in Seoul



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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Six foreign English teachers ㅡ three Canadians, two Americans and a New Zealander ㅡ were arrested Friday on charges of smoking hashish, a more potent cannabis product than marijuana.

I agree that having a test will help to improve our image in Korea - it won't make it perfect but can only improve it. However I don't understand how 'Friday' has changed from a noun to an adverb.
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cruisemonkey



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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
How about N\not just an entry test, but put us on random monthly tests (At employer expense of course)...

Hmmm...

I like this idea. Another day off... to go to the hospital, be given a paper dixie cup, to go unsupervised into the wha-jong-shiel and get confused as to what I'm supposed to donate. Wink
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't care if they test coming in, and do random tests.

The fewer druggies around here, the better.

From what I've seen, that would mean about a 30% increase in the number of jobs. Laughing
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, there are quite a few anti-civil rights people here.

Here's a better idea: Korea could wake up, study the effects of marijuana, and decriminalize it. They'd save a lot of money and could work to combat the real problem drugs in Korea like speed. Which, by the way, is used per capit by Koreans more than foreigner use marijuana or hash. Or how about the newspapers start printing incidents of Koreans using drugs and have a balanced approach to reporting drug users in Korea.

I am in no way advocating the use of drugs, but like Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, I recognize the wasted time, wasted money, and good people being incarcerated that comes from having soft drugs illegal.
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ChinaBoy



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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Koreans should be tested also if they're working with kids. They seem to hire some of the worst to be in those jobs.
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