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rooster_2006
Joined: 14 Oct 2007
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 4:35 am Post subject: GEPIK no longer accepting associate degrees? |
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Last summer, Immigration started allowing people with associate's degrees to fill the gaps at public schools (because it was so hard to find people with BAs willing to work in rural locations). At that time, it was quite easy to find positions listed on Dave's that said "two years of college or an associate's degree."
However, I just went there again, and checked all the GEPIK ads, and ALL of them say a BA or higher.
Has the regulation changed back?
What about the TaLK Program, are they going to have that this year?
I just finished all my associate's degree requirements, and I've been living in Korea for nearly the last three years as a student, and was REALLY hoping I'd get to work legally this year... |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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An associate degree from a Korean university wouldn't qualify you anyway.  |
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Jammer113
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Well, a recruiter would probably know better.. or even call up the foreign contact person for GEPIK...
But this year, the contract was changed to show pay-scales for people with associates degrees. I imagine that's because they're accepting people with said degrees. Like the previous poster said, it probably has to be from an English speaking university.
Ads say lots of things. Call the recruiter and ask them. |
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nicam

Joined: 14 Jun 2008
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Good, they shouldn't accept anything less than a BA. Associates degrees are for trades professions, not for education.
I'm sorry for you though, OP. That sucks that they changed it just as you were ready. And I guess very few people with BAs would be insane enough to live in rural Korea, so they gotta fill the gap somehow. Now that there's a recession and people are flocking to Asia I guess they can be a little more selective. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| nicam wrote: |
| Associates degrees are for trades professions, not for education. |
Where'd you pull that malarkey from? |
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ekul

Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Location: [Mod Edit]
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: GEPIK no longer accepting associate degrees? |
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| rooster_2006 wrote: |
Has the regulation changed back?
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You can work for GEPIK with either 2 years of a degree or a college course, it says so in the latest contract. While it doesn't mention associate degrees I'd be confident that they would be excepted. These positions pay 1.8 and 1.6million respectively. In rural Korea you can save 1million a month on that salary. |
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nicam

Joined: 14 Jun 2008
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Are you serious, CentralCali? If one wants a job in education, one should be educated, and that means a 4 year degree from a university at the very least.
Even police have to have a four year degree now in many areas of the world, where previously a 2 year was acceptable. Please, tell me what an AS degree is good for. |
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ekul

Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Location: [Mod Edit]
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| nicam wrote: |
Are you serious, CentralCali? If one wants a job in education, one should be educated, and that means a 4 year degree from a university at the very least.
Even police have to have a four year degree now in many areas of the world, where previously a 2 year was acceptable. Please, tell me what an AS degree is good for. |
Teaching rural Korean kids some words in English should not need to require the same qualifications as teaching core subjects. |
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nicam

Joined: 14 Jun 2008
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Why would teaching rural kids require less education than teaching city kids? I understand that they are desperate to get people into those areas, and I agree that a donkey could fulfill the minimum requirements of a Korean PS job, but that doesn't mean they should dumb the system down. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| nicam wrote: |
Are you serious, CentralCali? If one wants a job in education, one should be educated, and that means a 4 year degree from a university at the very least.
Even police have to have a four year degree now in many areas of the world, where previously a 2 year was acceptable. Please, tell me what an AS degree is good for. |
Yes, I'm serious. And, yes, you're displaying some incredible ignorance. Feel free to begin here to allay that and discover that quite a number of associate degrees are not for "the trades."
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agoodmouse

Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Location: Anyang
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Associate's degree holders shouldn't be hired. |
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ekul

Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Location: [Mod Edit]
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| nicam wrote: |
| Why would teaching rural kids require less education than teaching city kids? I understand that they are desperate to get people into those areas, and I agree that a donkey could fulfill the minimum requirements of a Korean PS job, but that doesn't mean they should dumb the system down. |
Do teaching assistants in your own country need BA/BSc degrees? If the emphasis of NET's in Korea was to teach Middle and High school students I would agree that a BA/BSc should most likely be the minimum. However most NET's find themselves in Elementary schools, and at that level I do not believe a university education in a random field to offer much if any advantages over someone finishing college. |
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poeticjustice
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| agoodmouse wrote: |
| Associate's degree holders shouldn't be hired. |
Neither should people who only have a BA, but here we are.
Credentials don't mean much, anyway. If only there was another way. |
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nicam

Joined: 14 Jun 2008
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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I'm displaying ignorance by suggesting that an associates degree is not sufficient for a career in education and/or academia?
You're suggesting that an associates degree should suffice for academic careers, careers in science, engineering, finance, medicine, etc? Mwah? |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| nicam wrote: |
| I'm displaying ignorance by suggesting that an associates degree is not sufficient for a career in education and/or academia? |
No. You're displaying ignorance by your flat assertion that an associate degree is "for the trades."
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| You're suggesting that an associates degree should suffice for academic careers, careers in science, engineering, finance, medicine, etc? |
Depends on the particular career within that field, now, doesn't it? |
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