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huck
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 4:19 am Post subject: EXERCISE IN KOREA: Buying protein, gym stories, etc |
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[MOD note: This thread is a split off of issues about living in Korea from the "ESL Fitness Challenge" thread on the off-topic forum. Themes include: Buying protein suppliments, Korean gym stories, local marathons, etc.]
Hey, I was wondering if you guys who actually know something about this stuff could answer a couple of questions for me...
1. For those of you who are supplementing your diet with protein shakes, where do you buy them in Seoul?
2. And for the egg whites? Do you guys separate them yourselves - which I can do, but it's not as easy as just buying them in the store, yoiu know?
3. About the pyramid workout...why is it better to increase the weight and do less reps, rather than (after doing two sets at lighter weights) completely fatigue the muscle group you're working on at a higher weight, then immediately drop it 10 kg., then fatigue your muscles at that weight, then immediately drop it another 10 kg., and so on? It would seem like that way, when your muscles think they've done as much as they can, you show them that they can do a little bit more than they thought...
4. And finally - Before I came to Korea 2 years ago, my weight was always around 155 pounds (I'm 6 feet tall). In a year and a half, I gained about 15-18 pounds, before I went travelling last June, and lost most of the muscle mass I had gained. However, when I was bigger, and I was pretty cut - not really any visible fat, I practically had an 8pack on my stomach, etc - I noticed that my face seemed a lot puffier, and when i would stretch my neck and tilt my head to the side, puffy (fatty) skin would become obvious as it made my eyes look squishy. Anyways, now that I'm back down to 158 or so, that puffiness is gone...I've just started working out again a couple of weeks ago, but I'm worried that the puffy face/eyes/skin will come back...So, to make a long question even longer, to those of you who gain weight, has this side-effect occurred? Or does it just mean that I should probably be doing more cardio work?
Anyways, thanks for any questions you can answer. I really appreciate it. This thread is nice. It made me realize that I'm not the only one here who is trying to work out and improve my body while I'm in Korea....thanks for starting it. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 4:33 am Post subject: |
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I don't know about the other stuff, but separating egg whites is as easy as boiling an egg. Just crack the egg open over a bowl, and toss the yolk back and forth from one side of the eggshell to the other until all the clear "whites" are out. I've very little dexterity with my hands but it only took me a couple of eggs to master the process.
Just separate your own egg whites and save yourself the expense. (And you can leave the yolks out for the underfed cats in Korea.) |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 4:49 am Post subject: |
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Cables are pretty good. I wouldnt put them in the same category of machines as crap ones like the chest press. Cables are great for a variety of exercises. Machines like Nautillus are useless. Well,some like the Peck deck are better than others. As good as cables are, freeweights are still better. DB flyes are better than cable flyes. Triceps are built more effectively with freeweights than cables. I use cables too in my routine, but I use primarily freeweights.
Anyway Zyz, dont worry about it. Atleast now as you make progress you will be making REAL progress. You have seen for yourself how the level of strength differs between machines and freeweights. Had you continued using machines, you would have been only wasting time and effort.
Are you on the barbell bench press yet?
I have one beef. Why the hell dont korean gyms have DBs that go past 50lbs? I cant progress past the 50lbs 1 arm preacher/concentration curls or the standing curls since Ive never even seen adjustable DBs here. That sucks. Anyone else have this problem? Too light DBs and not enough plates? Maybe I should talk to the guy who works at my gym about getting DBs up to 90lbs since it would be great to do some heavier DB exercises too for the chest, just to mix it up with the flat bench.
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okay, as to max weights. it's a given that you shouldn't do them often.
i'll test out my max weight for bench every 1 1/2 months just to fuel my curiousity. it's a good shock for the system but i hardly think it's productive in any physical sense |
I do it twice a year. Usually I use a 1 RM calculator to roughly estimate my 1 RM from weights I can lift for 3 or 4 reps. Its not 100% accurate but its useful. The good thing is I dont need a spotter and I work out alone. Would I trust any of the guys at my gym to help me move 140kgs frommy chest? Um, the group of guys working out at my gym couldnt budge the 30kgs I loaded up on the EZ bar on my last set of preacher curls. So, no, I dont think they could help me if I needed help. |
Most Koreans can't handle 25KG DBs. I can't handle it yet...and I bet it will be a year before I can. Most I can do is 12kg or so.
They have something bigger than a DB but smaller than a barbell...would that do the trick? |
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tokki
Joined: 26 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 4:52 am Post subject: |
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| They have something bigger than a DB but smaller than a barbell...would that do the trick? |
not at my gym. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| How do your tattoos and hair style matter? You trying to get lucky on this thread LLoyd? |
There's always an opportunity for nookie. Maybe one of the board hotties will read this, see me one day, put two and two together and them blam-O. HSMLAL (Hot Sweaty Monkey Love Ala Lloyd)
School's Out! |
This is about lifting and exercising. Not your pathetic love life. I doubt anyone getting laid so often has to brag about it at every opportunity on a discussion forum.
If you lift, tell us about that. Lets keep this thread on topic, its a good and informative thread.
Oh, and an ankle tatoo? hahahah |
Exactly I wanna hear about lifting.
I also want to hear where you buy your protein power and does it taste good? My wife suggests Namdaemoon Market...wondering if there are any specialty stores for supplements in Seoul? |
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tokki
Joined: 26 Jul 2003
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| Lloyd Christmas wrote: |
Fine i'll bite. I do attend a fitness center near my house. I use the rowing adn stepper machine probably 3 times a week. And i don't know why you're laughing about my tatoo. It's not something gay but one of those wrap around viney thorn tats. Many girls comment and tell me its sexy especially korean girls that hate big, ugly tatoos but surprisingly love smaller, less threatening ones. Trust me.
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Im not laughing at the tattoo, per se, but the fact that you brought it up in a thread about lifting when it has nothing to do with lifting.
You only do cardio? What about weights?
Mr.Pink,
I dont supplement. I just eat food. Maybe If my goal was to get huge I would do creatine and protein shakes. I asked how much it would be to buy a box with 42 packets of whey protein. 150 thousand won. 42 packets, each being a single serving, divided by 3 comes out to about 2 weeks worth of the stuff. thats 300 grand a month. Um, a bit too expensive for me. I dont know about Namedaemun, I live 4 hours from Seoul so it isnt an option but looking at magz it all costs from 100 000 to 200 000w. Its not cheap at all. I really doubt my wife would approve. |
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iwacima
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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You can buy the protein powder at the Namdaemun market. Come out of exit 5 of the Namdaemun station and turn right. Walk for about 3 minutes....maybe 300 feet??..... and eventually on your right hand side you'll see stairs going down into the ground (there's a glass wall and roof enclosing them). When you walk down the stairs turn right again and you'll see a whole assortment of protein powders, creatine, vitimines, etc. The prices are pretty reasonable....not too much more than you would pay at home.
Has anyone ever tried liquid creatine? I started using the powder form last summer but stopped because my kidneys started hurting (I wasn't overloading and I was drinking lots of water) I've read that the liquid form doesn't have as many side-effects as the powder, but am curious if anyone else has used it. |
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Juggertha
Joined: 27 May 2003
Location: Anyang, Korea
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| huck wrote: |
Hey, I was wondering if you guys who actually know something about this stuff could answer a couple of questions for me...
1. For those of you who are supplementing your diet with protein shakes, where do you buy them in Seoul?
2. And for the egg whites? Do you guys separate them yourselves - which I can do, but it's not as easy as just buying them in the store, yoiu know?
3. About the pyramid workout...why is it better to increase the weight and do less reps, rather than (after doing two sets at lighter weights) completely fatigue the muscle group you're working on at a higher weight, then immediately drop it 10 kg., then fatigue your muscles at that weight, then immediately drop it another 10 kg., and so on? It would seem like that way, when your muscles think they've done as much as they can, you show them that they can do a little bit more than they thought...
4. And finally - Before I came to Korea 2 years ago, my weight was always around 155 pounds (I'm 6 feet tall). In a year and a half, I gained about 15-18 pounds, before I went travelling last June, and lost most of the muscle mass I had gained. However, when I was bigger, and I was pretty cut - not really any visible fat, I practically had an 8pack on my stomach, etc - I noticed that my face see | | | |
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