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intoutdoor
Joined: 05 Jan 2009
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 Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 2:36 pm Post subject: 9 month law? |
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| I have been at my hagwon for 3 months. I got a new job offer at another hagwon and am looking to take it, however, I cannot seem to get any clear information was to whether or not I will be able to do this. If anyone has any accurate knowledge on this matter it would be greatly appreciated. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: 9 month law? |
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| intoutdoor wrote: |
| I have been at my hagwon for 3 months. I got a new job offer at another hagwon and am looking to take it, however, I cannot seem to get any clear information was to whether or not I will be able to do this. If anyone has any accurate knowledge on this matter it would be greatly appreciated. |
The law on that is you have to stay for 9 months before you can transfer jobs. You have six more months to go. That is how the law was at least in December 2008. I haven't heard that they changed it. I wasn't allowed to change jobs until I hit the 9th month. It didn't used to be that way, but they changed the law to where you need to be at your job for 9 months.
Sorry, man.... |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: 9 month law? |
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| intoutdoor wrote: |
| I have been at my hagwon for 3 months. I got a new job offer at another hagwon and am looking to take it, however, I cannot seem to get any clear information was to whether or not I will be able to do this. If anyone has any accurate knowledge on this matter it would be greatly appreciated. |
The law on that is you have to stay for 9 months before you can transfer jobs. You have six more months to go. That is how the law was at least in December 2008. I haven't heard that they changed it. I wasn't allowed to change jobs until I hit the 9th month. It didn't used to be that way, but they changed the law to where you need to be at your job for 9 months. I got a letter of release from my previous employer when I made the switch over. I imagine you would need that.
Sorry, man.... |
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Netz
Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Location: a parallel universe where people and places seem to be the exact opposite of "normal"
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| Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: 9 month law? |
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| intoutdoor wrote: |
| I have been at my hagwon for 3 months. I got a new job offer at another hagwon and am looking to take it, however, I cannot seem to get any clear information was to whether or not I will be able to do this. If anyone has any accurate knowledge on this matter it would be greatly appreciated. |
The law on that is you have to stay for 9 months before you can transfer jobs. You have six more months to go. That is how the law was at least in December 2008. I haven't heard that they changed it. I wasn't allowed to change jobs until I hit the 9th month. It didn't used to be that way, but they changed the law to where you need to be at your job for 9 months.
Sorry, man.... |
This seemed like one of the WORST changes in the new law, and definitely "indentures" an employee to an employer.
Having to complete 75% of your work contract before being able to switch employers (God forbid you have a "bad" one), might as well be slavery. |
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Illysook
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| explain to me this 9 month law...does one still need a letter of release? |
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drunkenfud
Joined: 08 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:01 am Post subject: |
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The 9 month law applies only if you want to transfer to the new job under your current visa, therefore avoiding the necessity of having to jump through the CBC, health check, visa run etc hoops involved in getting a brand new visa. In effect, your current visa is transferred to your new employer, and can be extended as required. This scenario is where you need a letter of release/permission to transfer document from your current employer.
There is nothing to stop you from cancelling your visa, leaving the country, and applying for a new visa. Howver doing so might require a considerable outlay of time and money. You don't need a letter of release but will need (and I could be wrong on this - since allegedly immigration have started keeping degrees and transcripts on file) all the documents you had to submit for your original visa. |
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intoutdoor
Joined: 05 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:29 am Post subject: |
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drunkenfud. very informative, thank you very much. to your knowledge, if my current employer won't release me in a timely fashion, do I need to stick around? Will there be any consequences with immigration for my new job?
Thank you in advance. |
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vonnegutjr
Joined: 24 Mar 2009
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| This is the first I have heard of this and it is definitely bad news. Does this count for all types of schools and visas? I have a public school E-2 visa and I want to get the f*** out of here. I have a good job on the line. The only way to do this is to cancel and do a Japan run? Are you sure this policy is currently being enforced? Also, does anyone know if I would be able to use the documents that I used for the PS job for my new visa, if I couldn't transfer? Specifically, when is a criminal check too old? Thanks |
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oscabat
Joined: 15 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| There is nothing to stop you from cancelling your visa, leaving the country, and applying for a new visa. Howver doing so might require a considerable outlay of time and money. You don't need a letter of release but will need (and I could be wrong on this - since allegedly immigration have started keeping degrees and transcripts on file) all the documents you had to submit for your original visa. |
And how exactly do you "cancel" your visa? Do you go to immigration before you leave, or do you just turn in your ARC at the airport on your way out?
Also, since you seem to know what you're talking about, how long should you expect to have to be outside of the country when you reapply?
I'm in a similar situation to the orignal poster, and every single person is giving me a different answer to these questions.  |
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drunkenfud
Joined: 08 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| oscabat wrote: |
| drunkenfud wrote: |
| There is nothing to stop you from cancelling your visa, leaving the country, and applying for a new visa. Howver doing so might require a considerable outlay of time and money. You don't need a letter of release but will need (and I could be wrong on this - since allegedly immigration have started keeping degrees and transcripts on file) all the documents you had to submit for your original visa. |
And how exactly do you "cancel" your visa? Do you go to immigration before you leave, or do you just turn in your ARC at the airport on your way out?
Also, since you seem to know what you're talking about, how long should you expect to have to be outside of the country when you reapply?
I'm in a similar situation to the orignal poster, and every single person is giving me a different answer to these questions. |
I'm no expert. I've transferred a visa, but have not been in the type of situation you describe.
First, cancelling a visa. I've heard you can cancel your visa by handing in your ARC at the airport. I don't know if this is true, but suspect it is. I know for certain you can go to immigration, ask for your visa to be cancelled, and be issued an exit order. This typically gives you a week or so to leave the country.
How long will it take you to get back on a teaching visa? It depends on what documents they require, and how long it will take you to provide them. Allegedly, immigration are now keeping the apostilled degree and transcript on file (personally, I wouldn't bet on it). But you're PROBABLY going to need a new CBC - although maybe if the one you submitted is only three months old... Maybe not. I suggest you call immi and ask for what documents would be needed for a new e2. Then I suggest you call again and ask the same question to a different operator. Finally, I suggest you call a third time. If all of them agree on the answer, you're probably safe to proceed on it.
You know from your first application how long it will take you to get each document. If you're applying from your home country add a week or two to that figure to cover posting the documents to Korea.
One option you might want to consider is taking the ferry | |
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