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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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 Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 1:59 am Post subject: chicken and eggs aka paying for others mistakes |
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At the moment I'm trying to extract my final payment out of my director. She doesn't seem to have a problem with the agreed final payment amount 5 weeks + severence.
However utlities are another matter. I moved on Boxing day into my new place. Last payday I got hit with a 330k utilty bill for my old place (normally about 100k but my toilet added 100k plus a 150k is at the moment unaccounted for). This time I'm likely to get hit with another hefty bill as she wants to charge me for 3 months of utility payments (dec, jan, feb) despite the fact I have lived at my apartment 6 weeks.
Now being a reasonable sort of gal I would think that since I've lived in the house 50% of the time I should pay 50% of the bill. But apparently because another teacher hasn't payed their bill (he was in the apartment for 7 days at the beginning of december before he was sold to another school) I should get stuck with it. What really bites is when I first arrived I got stung with a 300k phone bill because the teacher before didn't pay it for 6 months.
At the moment I'm getting sob stories (through the rumour mill) at the moment of teachers who have stung the director with nasty charges (including a couple who did the midnight run and apparently cleaned out their apartment and left on plane tickets purchased by the director).
So my question is. Is the midnight run turning good directors bad, or were the runners running because the director was bad.
I must admit that these last 2 months have left a real bad taste in my mouth, which is a shame because this was a school I was at one point going to sign on for another year at. And I'm leaning more towards directors reaping what they sow.
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:19 am Post subject: |
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Why not just plainly state "sorry, that part of the bill belongs to whoever lived there before. Get a hold of them about it. Why would I possibly pay the utilities for two places at the same time?"
I'm wagering here the the previous tenant has since left and the school owner is thinking that all us foreign folks all hang together, so if you are forced to pay you'll just get it back from the other teacher. That, and if you don't pay, that means the director has to pay and that isn't cool at all in their eyes. |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:25 am Post subject: |
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Why not just plainly state "sorry, that part of the bill belongs to whoever lived there before. Get a hold of them about it. Why would I possibly pay the utilities for two places at the same time?"
I'm wagering here the the previous tenant has since left and the school owner is thinking that all us foreign folks all hang together, so if you are forced to pay you'll just get it back from the other teacher. That, and if you don't pay, that means the director has to pay and that isn't cool at all in their eyes. |
actually I did. The thing is she, sold his contract to another school when she sold her school in incheon. The febuary thing is interesting though, I will vacate my apartment on feb 7 I don't see why I should be paying for all of feb. I'm happy to pay an extra 25% of january's bill as payment towards it, but the whole month is ridculous. |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:58 am Post subject: |
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| So my question is. Is the midnight run turning good directors bad, or were the runners running because the director was bad. |
Could be both. I'm aware that we only hear your side of the story, but from what I've heard it sure sounds like you've brought more good faith to the table than your employer.
If it was me I'd be sticking to the position that what my ex-colleague did or didn't do has NOTHING to do with me. She was your director's hiring decision after all, not yours. You've kept up your end of the contract. They must keep up to theirs, and I assume there's nothing in that contract that says you're responsible for the bills of midnight runners.
Seems from here that you're being nickel and dimed. |
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hadeshorn
Joined: 30 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:41 am Post subject: |
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CLG. Why the hell do you let yourself become a victim.
Paying for a 300k phone bill? WHY OH GOD WHY..
Its not my problem. Thats all you have to keep saying. You dont have to be nice anymore as the end is nigh. So why dont you unleash the bitch within and cut sick? |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Just so much more of the usual, Hagwon owners trying to shaft workers. This drives me bonkers. You have to be pretty messed up to conclude that one worker is responsible for another's bills. You shouldn't have paid the phone bill at the start of your contract, that's what proved to your boss that you're a soft touch.
Final analysis: I wouldn't pay it. |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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No one can use you unless you let them.
I think that most of us would not be paying! Common sense! It's not my bill, so WHY should I pay it?!?! Ask the school owner if she wants to pay bills that are not hers! Well then! |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:15 pm Post subject: yes |
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The overdue bill, which is quite common, is a big part of the reason why schools take a housing deposit from their teachers. At my school, they give back that money without fail, but it may take almost 2 months, as they hold it to pay overdue bills.
Just an example. I got hammered with a 3 month internet bill the other day. Someone was at fault to why I didn't get a bill earlier. Shit happens, that's all I know.
Your school sounds like it has piss poor management. |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, I shouldn't have paid the phone bill when I got there. But at the time I had been in korea less than a month, didn't know anyone and was living in a neighbourhood where I had drunks beating on my door in the wee small hours.
At the moment I have bigger fish to fry as I may need a letter of release as I want to start a new job before my current visa ends. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| I may need a letter of release as I want to start a new job before my current visa ends. |
Aha. A glimmer of light comes shining through the clouds of confusion.
Your employer is aware that you need something, and your employer wants to extract a fee for doing slightly more for you than might happen for someone else in the course of things. There's no established category for such a fee, and therefore it is going on the books as something other than what it is.
What it means is that you will have to decide how much you need or want this letter of release and how much in monetary terms it is worth to you to get it. Stinks, boy howdy don't it, but that's what I think is going on. |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Your thread title got my attention, but I am afraid I can't give any advice. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:20 am Post subject: yes |
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| Chicken shit.... |
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dominic
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:50 pm Post subject: my god |
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| it's coomon sence to not pay someone elses phone bill no matter what country it is or how long u have been here. WHy do u need a release letter if ur contract is finished? or are u leaving |
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