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Australian formal teaching qualifications?

 
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 5:32 pm    Post subject: Australian formal teaching qualifications? Reply with quote

Is there anyone who has an australian teaching qualification (such as the Dip. Ed)- and how competitive have you found this to be internationally?
I have heard that International schools prefer the british PGCE...
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bundangbabo



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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't mind spending a year in Australia but for me the PGCE is actually cheaper (being a home student) so I wouldn't mind knowing the anwser to this also...
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soviet_man



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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked into it before - this is what I think:

The deal was - assuming you already have some sort of non-B.Ed. Bachelor degree, you can do a 1 year full time "Grad Dip Ed" at any Australian university and be qualified to teach there as a Registered Teacher, although there are typically lengthy field practicum(s) involved.

I think it would be a good choice if you wanted to specialize in something very very specific (eg. teach only high-school music or drama or a foreign language etc) but if you just want to be a run-of-the-mill elementary/English school teacher it doesn't look worth taking a year off - financially or career wise. A 1st year teacher in Australia is on about US $33,000 per year before tax - so nothing special there.

As for how Grad Dip Ed's from Australia compare internationally, I'd say they can't possibly be a bad thing - but at the same time putting your life on hold for 1 year is a hell of a lot to sacrifice, unless you had actual ties to Australia and wanted to do it there long-term.
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Julius



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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

soviet_man wrote:
if you just want to be a run-of-the-mill elementary/English school teacher it doesn't look worth taking a year off - financially or career wise.


As far as I understand, the Dip ed is a secondary education qualification, ie not for elementary school, correct? or is it useful internationally for both I wonder?
There is also a separate elementary school qualification in Aus, just not sure it seems worth taking...


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A 1st year teacher in Australia is on about US $33,000 per year before tax - so nothing special there.

well I'm on roughly the same here in K with just a BA. Difference probably is that the Dip Ed opens up the international schools to you.

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at the same time putting your life on hold for 1 year is a hell of a lot to sacrifice, unless you had actual ties to Australia and wanted to do it there long-term.

Problem is that the dip ed becomes validated by at least 2 years teaching exp in Australia. Not sure if getting the Dip.Ed then having 2 years exp at schools in Asia is recognized...same goes for the PGCE and the UK.
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soviet_man



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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grad Dip Ed is obviously an Australian-specific course - meaning you could definitely teach in Australia or NZ public schools upon completion.

What it counts for in terms of "International Schools" depends on what country the school is in - eg. in some countries a 1 month CELTA course might be more useful than a 1 year Grad Dip Ed.

My understanding with the Grad Dip Ed is that it is mainly for those who already have some sort of non-teaching undergrad degree like a BA, who then want to get "Board of Teacher Registration" by doing this course. It could be for any subject area, elementary/high school etc.
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been curious about this as I did the Graduate Diploma of Teaching (Secondary) in NZ last year.

The diploma concentrates on how to teach for assessment and with that how to breakdown content for classes eg differentiation, literacy strategies, classroom management, pedagogy et al. I did 15 weeks of teaching in local schools on 3 five-week blocks. In NZ I'm provisionally registered to teach-full reg. takes 2 years and teaching in the UK would see me fully qualified after 1 year.

I had a look at the website for Seoul International School and they say they use a US curriculum adjusted for an international school make-up.

A few questions I'd have would be:

-How actually international is the school make-up (lots of Korean students with central American passports??)
-What is the assessment students are working towards?

I'd imagine schools have a particular wish-list when it comes to applicants:
-Probably US trained and able to teach for SAT (or for UK International Baccaloreate?)
-Married or otherwise settled in Korea.

No doubt the pay is much better than ESL and you can teach an actual subject which would be the attraction for me personally.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Grad Dip Ed is obviously an Australian-specific course - meaning you could definitely teach in Australia or NZ public schools upon completion.

-I contacted SA teacher board and they said there seems no problem but I (with an NZ qual.) still have to apply though the qualifications agency to check for equivalency.

-There are higher paid positions in NT. Apparently the average there is 70k+.

How about teaching positions in Aus? I heard that they are few and far between nowadays.
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