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submitting CRCs - again and again and again and again??

 
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kiwiduncan



Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: submitting CRCs - again and again and again and again?? Reply with quote

Now that some of the posters here may have completed a contract started after the new CRC requirements came out, are you discovering that starting a new job/contract in Korea with a new E2 visa still requires you to submit a new CRC all over again?

As you may have seen in my recent posts, I've just discovered that the Korean Immigration Service wants to see CRCs from both NZ and the UK. If I have to go through this process every single time I get a new job in Korea then I wonder if it's all worth it.

(And please, no more of those almost gloating "you should never have mentioned your dual citizenship in the first place!" kind of comments. I switched from coming to Korea on my NZ passport to my UK passport a few years ago for pension refund reasons. This was well before the new CRC requirements came out, so I had little reason to keep my dual citizenship status unstated)
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SSA



Joined: 20 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: submitting CRCs - again and again and again and again?? Reply with quote

kiwiduncan wrote:
I switched from coming to Korea on my NZ passport to my UK passport a few years ago for pension refund reasons.)


This off topic but on a UK passport (which I am also) you cannot claim pension refund can you? I am paying 100,000 a month for this and from what I have read you cannot get any of this back unlike Americans, Australians, South Africans etc etc.

Please let me know if I am wrong - it will put a huge smile on my face!
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Beeyee



Joined: 29 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: submitting CRCs - again and again and again and again?? Reply with quote

SSA wrote:
kiwiduncan wrote:
I switched from coming to Korea on my NZ passport to my UK passport a few years ago for pension refund reasons.)


This off topic but on a UK passport (which I am also) you cannot claim pension refund can you? I am paying 100,000 a month for this and from what I have read you cannot get any of this back unlike Americans, Australians, South Africans etc etc.

Please let me know if I am wrong - it will put a huge smile on my face!


Sadly, you are correct.
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ekul



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe he meant that he changed from his UK passport to his NZ one? I know for a fact that British citizens cannot get a pension refund at this time. There was speculation that we could get credits towards national pension contributions but that is also false. Just check out the Korean pension website for the info.
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the OP's question. The E-2 visa is a one year temporary work visa. It is not intended or set up for people to renew year after year. Korea really doesn't want E-2 visa workers staying here for a prolonged sojourn and will not likely take any steps to make it easier for the minority that choose to renew a temporary work visa over and over again.

This in no way reflects how I think about foreigners that choose to live and work in Korea long term. I am just telling you the reason for the current bureaucracy as I see it.
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, Korea's immigration policies don't seem to be geared as TJ stated to retain teachers who want to stay here for more than one year or at a different school. Immigration doesn't care how things affect foreigners unless they get too many foreigners not coming in or hagwons screaming at them.

If you have a UK passport why don't you go and teach in the EU?
Many of us teachers would consider that if we had a EU passport.
I mean Italy won't take us North Americans. Japan doesn't pay as much, but you will deal with less hassles there.

Otherwise, put up with the normal BS you find in Korea. It's unfortunate that they are so insensitive in immigration to what foreigners have to go through. A major reason why I overstayed was because of how immigration treated my file. I am not bitter. I just don't think they accomodate us foreigners much.
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kiwiduncan



Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've posted the original Korean email comments from Chungmoon's manager here too, so that someone can double-check my translation, but this is what he had to report back from K Immi:

Quote:
"E2비자를 새로 신청할 때는 반드시 모든 서류를 다 준비하셔야하고, 다만, 한국에 E2비자로 입국해서 한곳의 학원 또는 대학교 등에서 비자가 만료된 후에도 계속 근무할 때에는 또 다시 서류를 준비할 필요는 없습니다. 다른 학원 또는 대학교로 옮기는 경우에는 외국인 등록 신청용의 병원 건강진단서만 제출하면 됩니다.

그러나, 비자가 만료되어서 한국을 출국했을 경우에는 모든 서류를 다시 준비해야합니다."

Translation: "When applying for a new E2 Visa you definately have to prepare all the documents again. However, in the case of entering Korea on an E2 visa, after your visa expires while working at a hagwon, university or so on and you continue working there there is no need to prepare the documents again. In the case of moving to another hagwon or university you only need to provide the foreigner identity cards and the hospital health test paper [my translation's a bit confused with this last point].

However, in the case of the E2 visa expiring and your departing the country, you have to prepare all the documents again."


So it seems it's easy enough if you're going from one job to another while in Korea, or extending a contract with the same place, but it annoys me that, say for example I go back to NZ for a year, then decide to come back to Korea, I have to do it all over again as if K Immi has never even heard of me.
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Rory_Calhoun27



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kiwiduncan wrote:


So it seems it's easy enough if you're going from one job to another while in Korea, or extending a contract with the same place, but it annoys me that, say for example I go back to NZ for a year, then decide to come back to Korea, I have to do it all over again as if K Immi has never even heard of me.




so much for that master-plan of going to Nz for a few months, going on a cross-country crime spree and thrill-kill mania, then returning under the radar... Sad
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