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dmbfan
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 Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 10:16 pm Post subject: What do you mean, "We"? |
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President Barack Obama said in Turkey :
I found this very interesting.
Do you know the Preamble for your state? . .
Be sure to read the message at the bottom!
Alabama 1901, Preamble
We the people of the State of Alabama , invoking the favor and guidance of
Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution..
Alaska 1956, Preamble We, the people of Alaska , grateful to God and to
those who founded our nation and pioneered this great land.
Arizona 1911, Preamble We, the people of the State of Arizona , grateful to
Almighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution...
Arkansas 1874, Preamble We, the people of the State of Arkansas , grateful
to Almighty God for the privilege of choosing our own form of government...
California 1879, Preamble We, the People of the State of California ,
grateful to Almighty God for our freedom...
Colorado 1876, Preamble We, the people of Colorado , with profound
reverence for the Supreme Ruler of Universe... (vague)
Connecticut 1818, Preamble. The People of Connecticut, acknowledging with
gratitude the good Providence of God in permitting them to enjoy.
Delaware 1897, Preamble Through Divine Goodness all men have, by nature, the
rights of worshipping and serving their Creator according to the dictates of
their consciences....
Florida 1885, Preamble We, the people of the State of Florida , grateful to
Almighty God for our constitutional liberty, establish this Constitution...
Georgia 1777, Preamble We, the people of Georgia , relying upon protection
and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution...
Hawaii 1959, Preamble We , the people of Hawaii , Grateful for Divine
Guidance ... Establish this Constitution..
Idaho 1889, Preamble We, the people of the State of Idaho , grateful to
Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings.
Illinois 1870, Preamble We, the people of the State of Illinois, grateful to
Almighty God for the civil , political and religious liberty which He hath
so long permitted us to enjoy and looking to Him for a blessing on our
endeavors.
Indiana 1851, Preamble We, the People of the State of Indiana , grateful to
Almighty God for the free exercise of the right to choose our form of
government.
Iowa 1857, Preamble We, the People of the St ate of Iowa , grateful to the
Supreme Being for the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence
on Him for a continuation of these blessings, establish this Constitution.
Kansas 1859, Preamble We, the people of Kansas , grateful to Almighty God
for our civil and religious privileges establish this Constitution.
Kentucky 1891, Preamble.. We, the people of the Commonwealth are grateful to
Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties..
Louisiana 1921, Preamble We, the people of the State of Louisiana ,
grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties we
enjoy.
Maine 1820, Preamble We the People of Maine acknowledging with grateful
hearts the goodness of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in affording us
an opportunity .. And imploring His aid and direction.
Maryland 1776, Preamble We, the people of the state of Maryland , grateful
to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberty...
Massachusetts 1780, Preamble We...the people of Massachusetts, acknowledging
with grateful hearts, the goodness of the Great Legislator of the Universe
In the course of His Providence, an opportunity and devoutly imploring His
direction
Michigan 1908, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Michigan ,
grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of freedom, establish this
Constitution.
Minnesota, 1857, Preamble We, the people of the State of Minnesota, grateful
to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its
blessings:
Mississippi 1890, Preamble We, the people of Mississippi in convention
assembled, grateful to Almighty God, and invoking His blessing on our work.
Missouri 1845, Preamble We, the people of Missouri , with profound
reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His
goodness . Establish this Constitution...
Montana 1889, Preamble. We, the people of Montana , grateful to Almighty
God for the blessings of liberty establish this Constitution ..
Nebraska 1875, Preamble We, the people, grateful to Almighty God for our
freedom . Establish this Constitution.
Nevada 1864, Preamble We the people of the State of Nevada , grateful to
Almighty God for our freedom, establish this Constitution...
New Hampshire 1792, Part I. Art. I. Sec. V Every individual has a natural
and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own
conscience.
New Jersey 1844, Preamble We, the people of the State of New Jersey,
grateful to Almighty God for civil and religious liberty which He hath so
long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our
endeavors.
New Mexico 1911, Preamble We, the People of New Mexico, grateful to Almighty
God for the blessings of liberty..
New York 1846, Preamble We, the people of the State of New York , grateful
to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings.
North Carolina 1868, Preamble We the people of the State of North Carolina,
grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for our civil,
political, and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon
Him for the continuance of those...
North Dakota 1889, Preamble We , the people of North Dakota , grateful to
Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain...
Ohio 1852, Preamble We the people of the state of Ohio , grateful to
Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our
common.
Oklahoma 1907, Preamble Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to
secure and perpetuate the blessings of liberty, establish this
Oregon 1857, Bill of Rights, Article I Section 2. All men shall be secure in
the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of
their consciences
Pennsylvania 1776, Preamble We, the people of Pennsylvania, grateful to
Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly
invoking His guidance....
Rhode Island 1842, Preamble. We the People of the State of Rhode Island
grateful to Almighty God for the civil and religious liberty which He hath
so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing...
South Carolina , 1778, Preamble We, the people of he State of South Carolina
grateful to God for our liberties, do ordain and establish this
Constitution.
South Dakota 1889, Preamble We, the people of South Dakota , grateful to
Almighty God for our civil and religious liberties ...
Tennessee 1796, Art. XI..III. That all men have a natural and indefeasible
right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their
conscience...
Texas 1845, Preamble We the People of the Republic of Texas ,
acknowledging, with gratitude, the grace and beneficence of God.
Utah 1896, Preamble Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty, we
establish this Constitution.
Vermont 1777, Preamble Whereas all government ought to enable the
individuals who compose it to enjoy their natural rights, and other
blessings which the Author of Existence has bestowed on man ..
Virginia 1776, Bill of Rights, XVI Religion, or the Duty which we owe our
Creator can be directed only by Reason and that it is the mutual duty of all
to practice Christian Forbearance, Love and Charity towards each other
Washington 1889, Preamble We the People of the State of Washington, grateful
to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties, do ordain this
Constitution
West Virginia 1872, Preamble Since through Divine Providence we enjoy the
blessings of civil, political and religious liberty, we, the people of West
Virginia reaffirm our faith in and constant reliance upon God ..
Wisconsin 1848, Preamble We, the people of Wisconsin, grateful to Almighty
God for our freedom, domestic tranquility...
Wyoming 1890, Preamble We, the people of the State of Wyoming , grateful to
God for our civil, political, and religious liberties, establish this
Constitution...
After reviewing acknowledgments of God from all 50 state constitutions, one
is faced with the prospect that maybe, the ACLU and the out-of-control
federal courts are wrong.
(Please note that at no time is anyone told that they MUST worship God.)
GOD BLESS AMERICA |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| As a person of Wisconsin, I am not grateful to your invisible man in the sky for anything, and I'd rather this was removed. Perhaps some day enough other denizens of Wisconsin will be rational enough to feel the same way, and it will be fixed. |
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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| As a person of Wisconsin, I am not grateful to your invisible man in the sky for anything, and I'd rather this was removed. Perhaps some day enough other denizens of Wisconsin will be rational enough to feel the same way, and it will be fixed. |
Most Americans (and people in the world) would disagree with you. So, why should the MAJORITY of Americans have to cater to your whimpers?
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| As a person of Wisconsin, I am not grateful to your invisible man in the sky for anything, and I'd rather this was removed. Perhaps some day enough other denizens of Wisconsin will be rational enough to feel the same way, and it will be fixed. |
Most Americans (and people in the world) would disagree with you. So, why should the MAJORITY of Americans have to cater to your whimpers? |
In the present, they shouldn't; part of our political system is the minority living with what the majority wants to be the case. That's why I said I hoped "Perhaps some day enough other denizens of Wisconsin will be..." rather than "This needs to change, and now." |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| As a person of Wisconsin, I am not grateful to your invisible man in the sky for anything, and I'd rather this was removed. Perhaps some day enough other denizens of Wisconsin will be rational enough to feel the same way, and it will be fixed. |
Yeah.
On the other hand, who cares? |
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RufusW
Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan
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billietea
Joined: 03 May 2009
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| As a fifth grader in California I chose to not mention the "God" part during the morning pledge of allegiance. My school was very diplomatic and asked me to write a composition as to the reason(s) I felt unable or unwilling to participate fully in this event. I don't even remember informing my parents of this decision nor discussing my composition with them. My composition was well received at my elementary school and it was understood that I would not be required to pledge to anything that I was not in agreement with...the idea being that if my word was to mean anything it couldn't just be given because someone was requiring me to do so...I must mean what I say and say what I mean. Someday I hope that "God" is removed from everything political. *In another variation of this theme when asked to pledge to the Korean flag I stand with everyone, arms at my side or behind my bag, look at the Korean flag with respect and am quiet for the duration of their ceremony. I cannot pledge my allegiance to any other country's flag. |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 5:22 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| dmbfan wrote: |
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| As a person of Wisconsin, I am not grateful to your invisible man in the sky for anything, and I'd rather this was removed. Perhaps some day enough other denizens of Wisconsin will be rational enough to feel the same way, and it will be fixed. |
Most Americans (and people in the world) would disagree with you. So, why should the MAJORITY of Americans have to cater to your whimpers? |
In the present, they shouldn't; part of our political system is the minority living with what the majority wants to be the case. That's why I said I hoped "Perhaps some day enough other denizens of Wisconsin will be..." rather than "This needs to change, and now." |
Well, Fox, the good news is that in 200 years Christianity will be extinct. The bad news is that, following a thermonuclear war, Americans will all be bowing to Mecca.  |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 6:31 am Post subject: |
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| Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| dmbfan wrote: |
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| As a person of Wisconsin, I am not grateful to your invisible man in the sky for anything, and I'd rather this was removed. Perhaps some day enough other denizens of Wisconsin will be rational enough to feel the same way, and it will be fixed. |
Most Americans (and people in the world) would disagree with you. So, why should the MAJORITY of Americans have to cater to your whimpers? |
In the present, they shouldn't; part of our political system is the minority living with what the majority wants to be the case. That's why I said I hoped "Perhaps some day enough other denizens of Wisconsin will be..." rather than "This needs to change, and now." |
Well, Fox, the good news is that in 200 years Christianity will be extinct. The bad news is that, following a thermonuclear war, Americans will all be bowing to Mecca. |
Wow! I'd like to take that bet.
In one thousand years, Christianity will still be going strong and Rome will still be the center of the largest Christian denomination.
Most other religions will continue as well.
Perhaps, tolerance will increase along with agnosticism and atheism so that the non religious will form a plurality compared with any religious sect. |
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Julius
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 6:42 am Post subject: |
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Well, Fox, the good news is that in 200 years Christianity will be extinct. |
I believe the Soviets said the same thing between about 1917 and 1980.
Not only was it a punishable crime to criticise atheism, but christians were legally dispossessed of all their property and some 20 million were killed for refusing to renounce their beliefs. At the end of it all, the number of christians in the USSR had mushroomed to ten times their earlier number, and communism suddenly collapsed and dissapeared.
God is eternal, humans and their ideas are temporary. |
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RJjr
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
| Well, Fox, the good news is that in 200 years Christianity will be extinct. |
Christmas trees, Easter eggs, and Thanksgiving Day NFL football aside, isn't Christianity already extinct? |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I was just pulling people's legs anyway. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| RJjr wrote: |
| Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
| Well, Fox, the good news is that in 200 years Christianity will be extinct. |
Christmas trees, Easter eggs, and Thanksgiving Day NFL football aside, isn't Christianity already extinct? |
You forgot those creepy red neon crosses that are everywhere in Korea. One of the girls I teach with told me the red neon was supposed to represent the blood of Jesus. Yes, like Predator, Jesus' blood glows in the dark. |
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