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DOES OBAMA SUFFER FROM ARROGANCE OF MINORITY ENTITLEMENT?
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe the number of wacko statements and threads about Obama I keep seeing on the Current Events Forum. It's like right-wingers are in a race to pack in as many shots against Obama as Bush got in his entire two terms in Obama's first six months.
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RJjr



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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only person on here who realizes my European ancestry was what got me a job in Korea. I see other guys with European ancestry who also supported workplace discrimination and racism by accepting teaching jobs in Korea, but then do an about face and cry like babies over what they perceive as racial entitlement when non-whites get jobs.
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DC in Suwon



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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RJjr wrote:
I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only person on here who realizes my European ancestry was what got me a job in Korea. I see other guys with European ancestry who also supported workplace discrimination and racism by accepting teaching jobs in Korea, but then do an about face and cry like babies over what they perceive as racial entitlement when non-whites get jobs.


Uhh, I know five black English teachers within five or six blocks of me in Yongin. If anything, it's not our ancestry, but our luck to be from countries that English is the main (or official) language.
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There definitely is a preference for white teachers (not only in Korea, either), but it is slowly eroding.

Anyway, Korea isn't the only place where being identifiably black can hinder your job search.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/29/national/main575685.shtml
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rollo wrote:
What little bit i know about Harvard is my father attended there as an undergraduate. I have visited a couple of times.

I am really curious to know why you think Harvard inflates grades, quite an allegation.


Well, your father probably earned his good grades. The grade inflation is more recent, starting sometime in the 90s.

Click on the link, I gave you, its NPR.

Here's Ross Douthat saying Harvard is hard to get into and then . . . that's about it.

I'm far from the first one to make this allegation.
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jaykimf



Joined: 24 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
rollo wrote:
What little bit i know about Harvard is my father attended there as an undergraduate. I have visited a couple of times.

I am really curious to know why you think Harvard inflates grades, quite an allegation.


Well, your father probably earned his good grades. The grade inflation is more recent, starting sometime in the 90s.

Click on the link, I gave you, its NPR.

Here's Ross Douthat saying Harvard is hard to get into and then . . . that's about it.

I'm far from the first one to make this allegation.

So you're saying the grade inflation began sometime after Obama graduated?
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lithium



Joined: 18 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DC in Suwon wrote:
I supported and voted for Obama, but I'm an independent. I think this move was totally political by him. Get a latin (AND female) into the Supreme Court. Thus, if Republicans vote no, the latinos in their state/district will not be voting for them next time around. Obama is a politician first.....and a great one at that. I'm not really liking the things she said too. I saw a clip of a senator who said something along the lines of "imagine if that were a white man that said the things she said."


They did not get the Latino vote before, so why should they worry about it now? The Republicans need to focus on their principles; i.e. fical Conservatism. They need to show an opposition to the radical views that are being cast upon a dumfounded populace.
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RJjr



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DC in Suwon wrote:
RJjr wrote:
I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only person on here who realizes my European ancestry was what got me a job in Korea. I see other guys with European ancestry who also supported workplace discrimination and racism by accepting teaching jobs in Korea, but then do an about face and cry like babies over what they perceive as racial entitlement when non-whites get jobs.


Uhh, I know five black English teachers within five or six blocks of me in Yongin. If anything, it's not our ancestry, but our luck to be from countries that English is the main (or official) language.


My recruiter, Networkorea, had a no black policy.

If five black teachers prove we're not being hired because of our European ancestry, by the same logic, wouldn't the eight white judges on the Supreme Court prove that Sotomayor hasn't been nominated because she's Hispanic, as some angry white males alledge?
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RJjr



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lithium wrote:
The Republicans need to focus on their principles; i.e. fical Conservatism.


When have Republicans been fiscally conservative? Have you looked at the national debt lately? Even Schwartzenegger is trying to get the federal government to take money from me and other Tennesseans to prop up his failed budget when our state budget and the federal budget have already been raped by Republicans and Democrats.

If you'll volunteer to go fight the Afghans, the government can spend less on recruiting.
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Fox



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lithium wrote:
They did not get the Latino vote before, so why should they worry about it now?


Because that voting demographic is growing fast and, resultingly, becoming increasingly more important.
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DC in Suwon



Joined: 14 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RJjr wrote:
DC in Suwon wrote:
RJjr wrote:
I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only person on here who realizes my European ancestry was what got me a job in Korea. I see other guys with European ancestry who also supported workplace discrimination and racism by accepting teaching jobs in Korea, but then do an about face and cry like babies over what they perceive as racial entitlement when non-whites get jobs.


Uhh, I know five black English teachers within five or six blocks of me in Yongin. If anything, it's not our ancestry, but our luck to be from countries that English is the main (or official) language.


My recruiter, Networkorea, had a no black policy.

If five black teachers prove we're not being hired because of our European ancestry, by the same logic, wouldn't the eight white judges on the Supreme Court prove that Sotomayor hasn't been nominated because she's Hispanic, as some angry white males alledge?


Wow. Yes, great point. The five black guys and girls I've met in a eight block radius of my home is a PERFECT comparison to the history and make up of the Supreme Court. Man, why didn't I think of that? Why are you teaching English when you could be teaching Political Science at a university? Smile
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
Here's Ross Douthat saying Harvard is hard to get into and then . . . that's about it.

I'm far from the first one to make this allegation.

A Harvard grad friend confirms this, but he graduated over 30 years ago. Perhaps then it was easy to get Bs, and now easy to get As?
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't work out how you can have a racially biased test. What more can you do, have a verbal test like this?

Yo Man, tell me what yah gonna do when yo momma is up there on da third floor, Man, and she's a hollering and a screaming fo help?
Go get ther ladder and go get that bitch, Man, or, yell at Mikey, the whitey boy, to go skinny up that ther ladder.

Whatcha gonna do, yo fire fightin' bro, when you get a call from da man who says, 'Gotta gets us some air, Man'?
Go getcha dat ther blue stickered one, or, get dat ther red stickered one?
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RJjr wrote:
lithium wrote:
The Republicans need to focus on their principles; i.e. fical Conservatism.


When have Republicans been fiscally conservative?


Texas? Florida?

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/AP/story/1067298.html

Some R states have been pretty well run. Bush wasn't really a conservative in any way. Maybe Newt? Mitt?
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaykimf wrote:
Kuros wrote:
rollo wrote:
What little bit i know about Harvard is my father attended there as an undergraduate. I have visited a couple of times.

I am really curious to know why you think Harvard inflates grades, quite an allegation.


Well, your father probably earned his good grades. The grade inflation is more recent, starting sometime in the 90s.

Click on the link, I gave you, its NPR.

Here's Ross Douthat saying Harvard is hard to get into and then . . . that's about it.

I'm far from the first one to make this allegation.

So you're saying the grade inflation began sometime after Obama graduated?


Obama graduated from the law school (I believe his undergrad was at Columbia) at the top of his class. But yes, Harvard Law has grade inflation as well, its hard to get a C there, which is not true of most law schools. But when you graduate at the top of your class, there's very little people can say about being the beneficiary of grade inflation.

Anyways, thanks for bringing this tangent back on topic.
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