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big_fella1



Joined: 08 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:53 pm    Post subject: Too fat to get a Camp/Hagwon job Reply with quote

Life is going pretty well here in Busan, I have got a beautiful wife, a nice apartment and a great lifestyle.

The only problem (opportunity) on the horizon is that after a year of split shifts I have bulked up somewhat (although not to the extent I was when I arrived in Korea). I am not blaming the split shifts but the way I dealt with them. For me tired equals eating/not exercising.

Anyway I am almost at the end of my contract and need to find another job and my fat photo is not getting me return phonecalls (yes this is my fault but I can't fix it straight away).

So I need to get a real job!

Now I am guessing most people who have successfully transitioned to the world of real work in Korea aren't reading these pages and didn't change during a global financial crisis but are there any stories out there?

Cheers

The bigger fella
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wampa33



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I lack the innate Native English speaking ability to infer speakers attitude or sincerity, but frankly speaking I'm really tired of this "real' vs "false" distinction of jobs on the Korean ESl teaching boards.

Some Koreans and Expats complain that there are not enough "qualified" or "principled" English teachers in Korea. What the hell does that even mean? The esl literature I've read relating to this issue, is pompous, anachronistic, and laced with the typical bourgeois morality (e.g The principled ESL teacher has transparency through principles, and is an empiricist in each situation. blah blah. boring)


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Cohiba



Joined: 01 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wampa33 wrote:
Maybe I lack the innate Native English speaking ability to infer speakers attitude or sincerity, but frankly speaking I'm really tired of this "real' vs "false" distinction of jobs on the Korean ESl teaching boards.

Some Koreans and Expats complain that there are not enough "qualified" or "principled" English teachers in Korea. What the hell does that even mean? The esl literature I've read relating to this issue, is pompous, anachronistic, and laced with the typical bourgeois morality (e.g The principled ESL teacher has transparency through principles, and is an empiricist in each situation. blah blah. boring)

I'll take the romantic pedestal for a moment. A principled educator is contradiction in terms. Great heroes history (available at Barnes and Noble book sellers) reveals that the educators of humanity have not been principled people who had to prostitute themselves to irrational fears or opinions of the times to make their bread.

I can't help but feel that when someone (regardless of national origin) says "ESL teachers in Korea are losers, they have fake degrees, or no degrees, or are not qualified to teach" that the issue of being qualified is simply another channel or cipher for latent xenophobia or malicious envy of the outsider.

I recall reading a few years ago, an article about racial hatred that said "the more we try to destroy the object in front of us, does it keep reappearing in new forms. We can not endure the pleasure of the other person in any form. The object of racial hatred is inexhaustible. "


Wow, another newb that forgot to leave their little textbooks at home.
What exactly are you trying to say here? I see words like: "Pedestal" and
"bourgeois". What I don't see is any point to you regurgitating what your
first year profs ladelled into your skull so you could pass sociology 101.
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steroidmaximus



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: GangWon-Do

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is your wife Korean?

Get a license from the education board, advertise in the paper stating your qualifications, be your own boss.

Problem solved.
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ekul



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
Location: [Mod Edit]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cohiba wrote:


Wow, another newb that forgot to leave their little textbooks at home.
What exactly are you trying to say here? I see words like: "Pedestal" and
"bourgeois". What I don't see is any point to you regurgitating what your
first year profs ladelled into your skull so you could pass sociology 101.


Wow another 'old timer' who thinks their join date defines them.
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digsydinner



Joined: 24 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you look like this? if so, i don't blame them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EXBo-FdXl4
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Adjumas Cheekbones



Joined: 26 May 2009
Location: director's pocket

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

digsydinner wrote:
do you look like this? if so, i don't blame them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EXBo-FdXl4


who gives this moron work
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wampa33



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cohiba wrote:
[quote="]

Wow, another newb that forgot to leave their little textbooks at home.
What exactly are you trying to say here? I see words like: "Pedestal" and
"bourgeois". What I don't see is any point to you regurgitating what your
first year profs ladelled into your skull so you could pass sociology 101.


I've never taken a sociology course at a university. Guess my comments were too pedantic for your personal style of attacking character through a few sloppy inferences.

I can't blame you, your words are magical and not regurgitated learned phrases from some anonymous professor. Anyone who can read into another persons past with such transparency has a right to teach other people how they should write English.
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dean_burrito



Joined: 12 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ekul wrote:
Cohiba wrote:


Wow, another newb that forgot to leave their little textbooks at home.
What exactly are you trying to say here? I see words like: "Pedestal" and
"bourgeois". What I don't see is any point to you regurgitating what your
first year profs ladelled into your skull so you could pass sociology 101.


Wow another 'old timer' who thinks their join date defines them.


Yeah, I don't understand why people shout newb so often on here. What's the point? If folks have some experience please share it. As my friend put it he's leaving Korea because he doesn't want to be that bitter know it all 8 year veteran. Now don't get me wrong. Some have made a good life for themselves here but some people seem to just be stuck in time.
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John_ESL_White



Joined: 12 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fat people can get decent jobs here. I know a guy pushing 500lbs., that keeps getting hagwon jobs.

But, you are on an F-visa, I'm assuming??? maybe?

If so, you need to skip the FT hagwon gigs all together and focus on small private classes in your neighborhood, working with smaller hagwons PT, and getting some adult business classes and adult 1:1s.
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wampa33 wrote:
Cohiba wrote:
[quote="]

Wow, another newb that forgot to leave their little textbooks at home.
What exactly are you trying to say here? I see words like: "Pedestal" and
"bourgeois". What I don't see is any point to you regurgitating what your
first year profs ladelled into your skull so you could pass sociology 101.


I've never taken a sociology course at a university. Guess my comments were too pedantic for your personal style of attacking character through a few sloppy inferences.

I can't blame you, your words are magical and not regurgitated learned phrases from some anonymous professor. Anyone who can read into another persons past with such transparency has a right to teach other people how they should write English.


Aside from the personal attack, I do agree with Cohiba's point. What exactly are you trying to say?

I'm just saying, unless you're writing academia or something like that, why write like that?

I'm big into effective, economic writing.
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soviet_man



Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big fella,

This is a serious suggestion.

Go to your nearest supermarket. They usually have a small shop that will take your photo.

Put on a nice shirt, get a decent QUALITY photograph taken for around W15,000-20,000 that will airbrush out blemishes.

It will be an improvement if you get an expert to take one.

You have to take the perspective that with Koreans, 80% of getting the job involves (a) a good photo and (b) just turning up.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

soviet_man wrote:
Put on a nice shirt, get a decent QUALITY photograph taken for around W15,000-20,000 that will airbrush out blemishes.

one better: get a suit tailor made. it costs only about 300,000 won with a shirt tailored for 40,000 won more and a tie supercheap hereabouts

anybody in a suit is respected in this country

and you'll look better in the photo to them with a suit jacket and tie framing the smile

and the suit will come handy for any interviews you have to do
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megandadam



Joined: 28 Dec 2008
Location: toronto, canada

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cohiba wrote:
wampa33 wrote:
Maybe I lack the innate Native English speaking ability to infer speakers attitude or sincerity, but frankly speaking I'm really tired of this "real' vs "false" distinction of jobs on the Korean ESl teaching boards.

Some Koreans and Expats complain that there are not enough "qualified" or "principled" English teachers in Korea. What the hell does that even mean? The esl literature I've read relating to this issue, is pompous, anachronistic, and laced with the typical bourgeois morality (e.g The principled ESL teacher has transparency through principles, and is an empiricist in each situation. blah blah. boring)

I'll take the romantic pedestal for a moment. A principled educator is contradiction in terms. Great heroes history (available at Barnes and Noble book sellers) reveals that the educators of humanity have not been principled people who had to prostitute themselves to irrational fears or opinions of the times to make their bread.

I can't help but feel that when someone (regardless of national origin) says "ESL teachers in Korea are losers, they have fake degrees, or no degrees, or are not qualified to teach" that the issue of being qualified is simply another channel or cipher for latent xenophobia or malicious envy of the outsider.

I recall reading a few years ago, an article about racial hatred that said "the more we try to destroy the object in front of us, does it keep reappearing in new forms. We can not endure the pleasure of the other person in any form. The object of racial hatred is inexhaustible. "


Wow, another newb that forgot to leave their little textbooks at home.
What exactly are you trying to say here? I see words like: "Pedestal" and
"bourgeois". What I don't see is any point to you regurgitating what your
first year profs ladelled into your skull so you could pass sociology 101.


kind of straightforward if you ask me. probably the OP's fault for not clarifying what he means by "real work."
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Rory_Calhoun27



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the OP seems to enjoy degrading himself, so maybe it's a matter of presentation.


as Kirkegard, of Dick VanPatten said, "If you define me, you negate me." Defining yourself repeatedly as Big and Bigger and constant talk about your weight and no defineable attempts to change the matter may be the undoing.


Last I checked, many gyms are open late. and certainly in the break in a split shift. and as they said in some wacky movie, "how about a little less eating and a little more ****ing?" but maybe the wifey has a little somethin'-somethin on the sidee herself! Wink
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