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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Hater Depot wrote: |
| lithium wrote: |
| She is clearly a racist and will legislate from the bench as she has stated she does. |
Have you found anything in her body of judicial opinions which would indicate so? I'm thinking that if anyone had found any time when she made a racist ruling from the bench they'd be pushing it pretty hard. Instead the only evidence we have that she is a racist is a couple of out-of-context quotes. |
The quotes in question are just as racist in context, but to answer your question, I haven't seen any overtly racist rulings from here, only rulings which were probably nudged one way or another by it (e.g. the fireman's test ruling, which I still assert was a misinterpretation of the law in question). |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| RJjr wrote: |
With Sotomayor being not only a minority, but also a female, I know she's faced a lot more discrimination that I ever have or ever will and no doubt would be more fair than I would. |
I don't buy that premise at all. Discrimination is not per se ennobling.
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| From what I have read, in the courtroom - where what she says matters - she's no flaming, wild-eyed liberal with a Puerto Rican-shaped chip on her shoulder. Not by a long shot. |
No, she isn't. Obama is center-left, and I place center first for a reason, and almost all of his appointees are as well. |
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RufusW
Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Obama's reasoning for voting against Judge Roberts' nomination.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124390047073474499.html
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...adherence to precedent and rules of construction and interpretation will only get you through the 25th mile of the marathon. That last mile can only be determined on the basis of one's deepest values, one's core concerns, one's broader perspectives on how the world works, and the depth and breadth of one's empathy.
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Enrico Palazzo
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| The quotes in question are just as racist in context, but to answer your question, I haven't seen any overtly racist rulings from here, only rulings which were probably nudged one way or another by it (e.g. the fireman's test ruling, which I still assert was a misinterpretation of the law in question). |
I suppose the trial judge and the other appellate judges were nudged by racism as well, as will be (probably) a few Supreme Court justices. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| daskalos wrote: |
| From what I have read, in the courtroom - where what she says matters - she's no flaming, wild-eyed liberal with a Puerto Rican-shaped chip on her shoulder. Not by a long shot. |
No, she isn't. Obama is center-left, and I place center first for a reason, and almost all of his appointees are as well. |
Kuros: please share what you are smoking.
Obama�s cabinet selections win praise from the right
By Tom Eley
1st December 2008
Prominent voices from the political right have endorsed President-elect Barack Obama�s cabinet picks, both for his economic and national security �teams.�
On November 28, the Wall Street Journal ran an editorial entitled �Obama�s War Cabinet,� which lauded President-elect Barack Obama�s widely-anticipated decisions to keep Robert Gates on as Secretary of Defense and to select retired general James Jones as National Security Adviser, the top two civilian military positions in the federal government. The selections, the editorial notes, mean that Obama intends to carry on the Bush administration�s military policy in Iraq and beyond.
The Journal writes, �These are the Administration posts most critical to the successful conduct of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and to possible entanglements with Iran, North Korea and who knows who else. With these personnel picks, Mr. Obama reveals a bias for competence, experience and continuity.�
In other words, the selections define an administration that will not only carry on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan�i.e., �continuity,��but that will be prepared to prosecute future wars.
The editorial celebrates the fact that the Gates selection effectively solidarizes Obama with the Bush administration�s policy in Iraq, noting that it amounts to an �endorsement of President Bush�s �surge� in Iraq and its military architect, General David Petraeus,� who the current Defense Secretary �championed.�
This was a departure from the positions of �candidate Obama,� the Journal points out, who �opposed the surge [and] called for a speedy withdrawal from Iraq.� In this regard, the selection of James Jones, the former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, was another �reassuring get� to the Journal. Jones was also an advocate of the �surge� strategy in Iraq, whereby the US military drowned the Sunni resistance in blood.
Center-left??? |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
Center-left??? |
Says the guy who compared the Obama administration to the Nazis? |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
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Center-left??? |
Says the guy who compared the Obama administration to the Nazis? |
Your messenger attack is a nice dodge of responding to the fact that many on the right are praising BO. It stinks, admit it.
Jeremy Scahill said:
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| What we see at every turn is the Obama administration, backed up by the Wall Street Journal editorial board, backed up by the neoconservatives, backed up by the hawkish Republicans, on one side, and then the ACLU, the Center for Constitutional Rights, and social justice and antiwar activists and human rights advocates, on the other side. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Hater Depot wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| The quotes in question are just as racist in context, but to answer your question, I haven't seen any overtly racist rulings from here, only rulings which were probably nudged one way or another by it (e.g. the fireman's test ruling, which I still assert was a misinterpretation of the law in question). |
I suppose the trial judge and the other appellate judges were nudged by racism as well, as will be (probably) a few Supreme Court justices. |
Quite possibly, unfortunately. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/06/sonia-sotomayors-prose-problem
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As a Supreme Court nominee, Sonia Sotomayor has a lot going for her: a stellar judicial record, a Yale Law School pedigree, a compelling personal history, and more trial experience than any other sitting justice. But while she's clearly a bright and talented lawyer, she unfortunately lacks one of the key qualities of a successful Supreme Court justice: writing skills. To put it bluntly, Sotomayor doesn't write very well. Reporters have sort of danced around this problem. The New York Times' Adam Liptak charitably described her opinions as models of judicial craftsmanship that are "not always a pleasure to read."
Liptak's analysis is something of an understatement. Sotomayor's opinions read like she's still following a formula she learned in college and show little of the smart narratives employed by the federal judiciary's brightest lights. Sotomayor's impenetrable legal opus stands in striking contrast to much of the work produced by the court she aspires to. Supreme Court opinions, the best ones, are words for the generations. There's a reason that so many Supreme Court justices are still quoted long after they've died. (Think of Robert Jackson, Obama's hero, who wrote in a 1950 opinion, "It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error.") |
That's from Mother Jones! |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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| According to this article on NPR, an individual who went through all her rulings on matters of racial discrimination (about 100 it seems) found that she only rules in favor of the discrimination claim about 1 time in 8, and that the Supreme Court has not reversed any of her decisions on such matters. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| According to this article on NPR, an individual who went through all her rulings on matters of racial discrimination (about 100 it seems) found that she only rules in favor of the discrimination claim about 1 time in 8, and that the Supreme Court has not reversed any of her decisions on such matters. |
So it sounds like she follows the law. This should not be surprising.
But of course its a whole different ball game on the Supreme Court. She gets to determine what racial discrimination will mean. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for reporting that. Looks like she is almost certainly in, then.
Win some, lose some. |
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