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the bomb dot com
Joined: 21 Feb 2009 Location: Gwangmyeong
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Yesterday

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:17 am Post subject: |
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I really don't have sympathy..
He taught in Korea briefly during 2007 and 2008 - and was always up to other things (the club scene) instead of full-time teaching...
(I interviewed him for a job at the beginning of 2008 and rejected him - because I could see he only wanted a visa - not a REAL teaching job)...
He was then here (at the club scenes) for the last couple of months on a tourist visa..
Yes - it has been posted and posted on "Korea Beat" - haven't seen it on Daves.. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:04 am Post subject: |
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You don't have sympathy because he likes to go out to the clubs? It's not like he has some club-related disease. Working for the weekend isn't a sin against decency either. |
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pocariboy73
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:39 am Post subject: |
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This goes to show that nobody should ever travel to a foreign country without travel insurance. And Matt being here for three months without medical insuance was an accident waiting to happen. Very foolish!
Can you imagine how expensive the bill would be in the States if a Korean travelled there without insurance and needed medical attention?
It would be at leat 20x the cost as here.
While I do feel sorry for Matt and the pain he is suffering, luckily he has enough close friends who will help him through this situation. Thank God for that! |
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Robot_Teacher
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Location: Robotting Around the World
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Yes, there is or was a thread on this. I know you shouldn't travel without insurance, but most 20 something year old's don't think of this or know as I didn't either. I will get insurance to be traveling Egypt, Thailand, Peru, etc. from now on. It's even very risky to be home in the US without.
Going to help out a little using the account info in the blog. It may not be much, but if many of us help as many have, then it will get this young man on his way to recovery and released. Of course I or we don't know everything, but it makes me sick how that HBC hospital is playing a game of hardball with the money, holding him hostage, and even stalled out on providing leg surgery when it was needed like 2 weeks ago. Not only was the original goal of 10m won reached, but 14m was achieved and now they want like 5 more and that doesn't include the surgery as the original 10m did last week to my understanding. The hospital also threatened to kick him out, but yet are holding him hostage for full payment of like 19m won which undoubtedly be in the 20's within mere days. Apparently, the US diplomatic mission does nothing in this day and age for expats outside of passport services. When does it stop? Just get him stable, take the donations, and send him home. Isn't the 14m or whatever amount it's up to now enough for this greedy hospital who basically only housed him for a short period instead of doing surgery to stabilize him? Sheesh, it's only ethical they treat him to be stable as to be able to start healing, accept the donations, and let him go. Smells like corruption at it's finest.
Since they're holding him hostage, why didn't they do the surgery last week to ensure he's OK and going to get well? After all, aren't hospitals for healing instead of prolonging illness on a hostage patient? Since people are trying to help who have come forth to the hospital making rather large payments, why aren't they trying to work with them and the patient in a reasonable manner that makes sense? Least they could do is cut him some slack, operate on his leg to fix the blocked artery issue, give him necessary meds, and send him on his way now that they got more money than originally requested.
Sure this young man loved to party and travel around just as most of us like to do and there's nothing wrong with that and that's no reason to not feel sympathy for him. I wonder how many of us, especially in our 20's, are traveling without health insurance, but partying around on a dime? I bet most of us did as I did too. I did have a bad learning experience in Europe with getting hurt in a foreign country being uninsured, but was lucky to hop out on one leg and go home due to a drop kick attack by a hungry drug addicted African illegal trying to rob me. I was lucky the hospital turned me away instead of holding me hostage when I had a blown knee due to robber attack. They sure could had given or sold me a pair of sticks as that would had been ethical, but they just turned me away with no way to walk. I got one used stick donated and made it out.
It's going to take more than money to set this straight. I'm glad they're going to get the law involved. This is a troubling issue. I'm not demonizing Korea, becuase so many countries will let you die while holding you hostage or at best, they'll turn you away refusing care. It's a tough world out there when it comes to money, especially for the young, broke, and fabulous in red. |
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Yesterday

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Robot_Teacher wrote: |
I wonder how many of us, especially in our 20's, are traveling without health insurance, but partying around on a dime? I bet most of us did as I did too. I did have a bad learning experience in Europe with getting hurt in a foreign country being uninsured, but was lucky to hop out on one leg and go home due to a drop kick attack by a hungry drug addicted African illegal trying to rob me. |
Thats exactly why I have no sympathy - those of you think life is a party - and then things go wrong - why expect others to feel sorry for you??
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thomas pars
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:37 am Post subject: |
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do you honestly believe that if you had insurance from your work and were in SERIOUS medical trouble the hospital, school, insurance companies wouldn't try to screw you out of coverage/proper medical care? |
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NightSky
Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Robot_Teacher wrote: |
I wonder how many of us, especially in our 20's, are traveling without health insurance, but partying around on a dime? |
please do speak only for yourself....I am sure that the young broke travellers who are here on a tourist visa with no health insurance make up a very small minority on this board.
if you wish to count yourself among that happy few, that band of impoverished brothers, then feel free to do so but I do not belong. |
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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:01 am Post subject: |
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I gave a little, and I wrote it up on my site. I generally give money when people need it, whether it's a bus fare, or to cover a meal, or chip in when people need it, so I guess that's a weakness of mine. I recognize that Matt should have known better, and that people who are giving now are doing it because they want to help a guy out.
I object to some members of the Facegroup, though, talking about going to the media about how Korea is screwing this guy over, or about how Korea has rigged it so a tourist can't get insurance. Bottom line, the guy had a serious medical condition, chose to come to Korea anyway, chose to be uninsured, and made a number of other decisions that probably weren't good. |
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Adjumas Cheekbones
Joined: 26 May 2009 Location: director's pocket
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:08 am Post subject: |
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Yesterday wrote: |
Robot_Teacher wrote: |
I wonder how many of us, especially in our 20's, are traveling without health insurance, but partying around on a dime? I bet most of us did as I did too. I did have a bad learning experience in Europe with getting hurt in a foreign country being uninsured, but was lucky to hop out on one leg and go home due to a drop kick attack by a hungry drug addicted African illegal trying to rob me. |
Thats exactly why I have no sympathy - those of you think life is a party - and then things go wrong - why expect others to feel sorry for you??
I phoned his previous employers in December 2007 (2 kindergartens) and both stated that he did NOT LAST even 6 months - because of what he was doing in between classes...
how or even why he came back during 2008 and 2009 is beyond a mystery...
if you think going to another country is a "vacation" and "party" and you fall into "sickness" don't expect any sympathy... (not from me)
As for the TITLE of this thread being "former teacher...." when did he actually teach??
he lost both his 2007 job "kindergarten" teaching jobs for not teaching properly... (I phoned his former employers on his resume)
in 2008 what did he do?
why did he come back in 2009 on a extended tourist visa??
he was not a teacher - just a partier.. |
What was he doing inbetween classes? You mean the 5 minute breaks  |
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Robot_Teacher
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Location: Robotting Around the World
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Smee wrote: |
I gave a little, and I wrote it up on my site. I generally give money when people need it, whether it's a bus fare, or to cover a meal, or chip in when people need it, so I guess that's a weakness of mine. I recognize that Matt should have known better, and that people who are giving now are doing it because they want to help a guy out.
I object to some members of the Facegroup, though, talking about going to the media about how Korea is screwing this guy over, or about how Korea has rigged it so a tourist can't get insurance. Bottom line, the guy had a serious medical condition, chose to come to Korea anyway, chose to be uninsured, and made a number of other decisions that probably weren't good. |
No, it's not Korea screwing him over, it's one part his mistake and one part going into the wrong hospital, a private hospital. I would reckon that because he didn't have insurance, he was not taken to a government public hospital where it's a more level playing field. I was lucky to be turned away by the Euro social system hospitals instead being held hostage. I was able to leave and get care elsewhere when I got injured in an attack. Matt's probably better off in Korea than in 90+ other small countries of the world. Serious.
Are there any restrictions barring tourists from having insurance in Korea? Well, you have to buy this before arriving in a country when it comes to any international travel. Kinda like you can't buy a Eurail pass in Europe, but you can from home or Korea. Same with Japan rail pass. Very important things about travel have to be done before flying away to the party.
I hope he recovers, gets it together and does what he wants to do in the future in a more responsible way by doing his homework, something I too didn't do before.
People, get travel health insurance. And check if the insurance pays the provider or if it only reimburses you upon filing a claim after returning home. This is a very serious risk with international travel if you're not loaded at the bank. Bottom line. |
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travelingfool
Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Location: Parents' basement
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:56 am Post subject: |
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pocariboy73 wrote: |
This goes to show that nobody should ever travel to a foreign country without travel insurance. And Matt being here for three months without medical insuance was an accident waiting to happen. Very foolish!
Can you imagine how expensive the bill would be in the States if a Korean travelled there without insurance and needed medical attention?
It would be at leat 20x the cost as here.
While I do feel sorry for Matt and the pain he is suffering, luckily he has enough close friends who will help him through this situation. Thank God for that! |
I can imagine it because it happens all the time. People come to the US from all over the world for procedures they can't pay for because under federal law nobody can be refused. Unlike in Korea, a hospital cannot hold you hostage until you pay your bill. Illegal aliens cross the border, poop out a kid, and the whole procedure is covered and the kid is a citizen to boot, all at taxpayer expense. Stuff like that is why it costs $200 for an aspirin. |
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John_ESL_White
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:30 am Post subject: |
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travelingfool wrote: |
pocariboy73 wrote: |
This goes to show that nobody should ever travel to a foreign country without travel insurance. And Matt being here for three months without medical insuance was an accident waiting to happen. Very foolish!
Can you imagine how expensive the bill would be in the States if a Korean travelled there without insurance and needed medical attention?
It would be at leat 20x the cost as here.
While I do feel sorry for Matt and the pain he is suffering, luckily he has enough close friends who will help him through this situation. Thank God for that! |
I can imagine it because it happens all the time. People come to the US from all over the world for procedures they can't pay for because under federal law nobody can be refused. Unlike in Korea, a hospital cannot hold you hostage until you pay your bill. Illegal aliens cross the border, poop out a kid, and the whole procedure is covered and the kid is a citizen to boot, all at taxpayer expense. Stuff like that is why it costs $200 for an aspirin. |
It doesn't cost $200 for an aspirin, but I see what you are getting at, but it is wrong.
The reason med costs are high in the US has nothing to do with Mexicant's taking advantage of the med system. It has everything to do with the med and pharmaceutical system taking advantage of the average US citizen.
Ask yourself, why the same meds, made by the same US companies cost 10X less over the Canadia border. Who is screwing who?
And why are the meds I buy in the Korea 1/20th the cost of the meds I buy in the US even though the meds I am buying in the Korea are the same meds as in the US. Same as in made by the same company->roche pharmaceuticals. They are imported into this country and even though they are imported, they are super cheap. Why is that?
Immigrants?
I hate you Mexican haters.
If you want to hate someone in the US, hate yourself. I'm sure you have some hate-able bloodline in your family history; Irish, French, German, Italian, British....
Illegals Mexicans/Central Americans have NOTHING to do our high med costs. |
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hubbahubba
Joined: 31 May 2008
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:55 am Post subject: |
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[quote="John_ESL_White"]
travelingfool wrote: |
[ame meds, made by
Immigrants?
I hate you Mexican haters.
If you want to hate someone in the US, hate yourself. I'm sure you have some hate-able bloodline in your family history; Irish, French, German, Italian, British....
Illegals Mexicans/Central Americans have NOTHING to do our high med costs. |
rock on brother...big picture |
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Hyeon Een

Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Yesterday wrote: |
Robot_Teacher wrote: |
I wonder how many of us, especially in our 20's, are traveling without health insurance, but partying around on a dime? I bet most of us did as I did too. I did have a bad learning experience in Europe with getting hurt in a foreign country being uninsured, but was lucky to hop out on one leg and go home due to a drop kick attack by a hungry drug addicted African illegal trying to rob me. |
Thats exactly why I have no sympathy - those of you think life is a party - and then things go wrong - why expect others to feel sorry for you??
I phoned his previous employers in December 2007 (2 kindergartens) and both stated that he did NOT LAST even 6 months - because of what he was doing in between classes...
how or even why he came back during 2008 and 2009 is beyond a mystery...
if you think going to another country is a "vacation" and "party" and you fall into "sickness" don't expect any sympathy... (not from me)
As for the TITLE of this thread being "former teacher...." when did he actually teach??
he lost both his 2007 job "kindergarten" teaching jobs for not teaching properly... (I phoned his former employers on his resume)
in 2008 what did he do?
why did he come back in 2009 on a extended tourist visa??
he was not a teacher - just a partier.. |
You're the guy who buys so much soju that the supermarket stops you and checks your ID because they think you're buying for a bar, right? But it's just for personal consumption? I think it's funny you were interviewing him for a job.
(Other posters: i'm not joking, this was about 2 years ago he made a post saying this. It's memorable.) |
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