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John_ESL_White
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:11 am Post subject: Honda in the Korea |
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I know, I know, it's stupid buying foreign cars in the Korea, but, I am interested in knowing if anyone out there has bought a Honda while in Korea.
I know a few people who bought CRVs and Accords here and they paid over 30,000,000 won for cars that would've cost them in the low to mid 20s in the states.
I know there is mark-up and I know why there is mark-up, I am just wondering how much of that mark up is dealer "inflated". You know, the dealer says, "hey, foreign cars are heavily taxed in Korea, we can not go any lower, blah blah blah."
Bottom line is that I need a new car and I want a civic coupe for the safety, reliability and the performance. It's a nice car.
An EXL stickers at -20K in the states, but will sell for +18K.
I imagine here the same model should be 24K which would be acceptable.
Any experience with foreign car purchases is welcome. Thanks |
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digsydinner
Joined: 24 May 2009
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: |
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i don't own a car here...but i would think the resale market would be as inflated as the new car market. therefore, the depreciation could be similar as back in the states if you are planning on selling it after a couple of years. the only thing is...obviously you need more funds to finance the deal to begin with. |
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tegu
Joined: 10 May 2006
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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i got a s2k here...
for import cars the markup is this
the cars value right now ( if less then 2L engine 30% import duty + 7% registration fee + $7000 in testing costs)
so it adds up fast.
ALL imports have to be modded to meet korean standards! even normal straight out of the factory cars.
actually the CRV is the #1 most popular import in korea  |
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madoka

Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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What's awesome about the U.S. is that we get some of the lowest prices in the world. The Lexus IS F retails for about $65K in the U.S., yet sells for over $100K in Japan. Similarly, I believe the Hyundai Genesis sells for about $10-15K less in the U.S. than it does in Korea. For whatever reason, we just get cars cheap in the U.S. So comparing car prices to the U.S. will just make you sad. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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For the price of a Civic, you could buy a nice Sonata.
Hondas are dubious. 10 years ago the cars were great. Nowadays, not so much. Its not hard to read about widespread transmission, engine, or other problems.
The transmission on my Accord went out after 4 years. Looked on the Internet, and sure enough, my generation of Accords have a record of transmission problems. In almost all the cases I read, the symptoms started after 3-5 years.
Toyotas are much better than Hondas. |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: Honda in the Korea |
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John_ESL_White wrote: |
I know, I know, it's stupid buying foreign cars in the Korea, but, I am interested in knowing if anyone out there has bought a Honda while in Korea.
I know a few people who bought CRVs and Accords here and they paid over 30,000,000 won for cars that would've cost them in the low to mid 20s in the states.
I know there is mark-up and I know why there is mark-up, I am just wondering how much of that mark up is dealer "inflated". You know, the dealer says, "hey, foreign cars are heavily taxed in Korea, we can not go any lower, blah blah blah."
Bottom line is that I need a new car and I want a civic coupe for the safety, reliability and the performance. It's a nice car.
An EXL stickers at -20K in the states, but will sell for +18K.
I imagine here the same model should be 24K which would be acceptable.
Any experience with foreign car purchases is welcome. Thanks |
I've only seen one Civic Coupe here and it was the 4th generation model. Mostly, it's Accord, Civic sedans and CR-Vs on the streets of Seoul.
Maybe you should wait for the Kia Forte koupe. Might be cheaper than a Honda. Reliability is getting higher and better with the Korean companies. |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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pkang0202 wrote: |
For the price of a Civic, you could buy a nice Sonata.
Hondas are dubious. 10 years ago the cars were great. Nowadays, not so much. Its not hard to read about widespread transmission, engine, or other problems.
The transmission on my Accord went out after 4 years. Looked on the Internet, and sure enough, my generation of Accords have a record of transmission problems. In almost all the cases I read, the symptoms started after 3-5 years.
Toyotas are much better than Hondas. |
Not by much since they became the no. 1 automaker. |
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IlIlNine
Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I don't think it makes any sense to pay luxury car prices for an econobox, when you can easily have a quality Korean car. Seriously, k-cars are great - since they're still working on their global reputation they're trying really hard to build good cars. Honda, Toyota -- they're at or near the top, so they can rest on their laurels.
Look what happened to Mercedes Benz in the 90s! In the 80s, their cars were so far ahead and so bulletproof, they were ahead by miles... then, they started concentrating more on the bottom line and.. 90s were disaster.
My point is, that public perception always follows behind truth. Once people start saying 'they'll be find in 2-3 years' - that's when the time is to buy.
With motorbikes (hey, mine's a honda), it's different because of the lack of choice in Korea - if you want a certain kind of bike you HAVE to buy foreign... but if you're gonna spend that kind of money for a plain-jane civic, accord, or CR-v, well .. I don't think it makes much sense. |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:20 am Post subject: |
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Hondas are just a higher class econobox here. |
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FMPJ
Joined: 03 Jun 2008
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:39 am Post subject: |
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The I love the Korea and the Honda. |
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tefain

Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Location: Not too far out there
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:44 am Post subject: |
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IlIlNine wrote: |
With motorbikes (hey, mine's a honda), it's different because of the lack of choice in Korea - if you want a certain kind of bike you HAVE to buy foreign... |
You mean the Hyosung road rockets aren't up to par with the Hondas?  |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:43 am Post subject: |
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FMPJ wrote: |
The I love the Korea and the Honda. |
The Korea
what a *beep* annoying stupid simple mistake that is |
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John_ESL_White
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: |
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pkang0202 wrote: |
For the price of a Civic, you could buy a nice Sonata.
Hondas are dubious. 10 years ago the cars were great. Nowadays, not so much. Its not hard to read about widespread transmission, engine, or other problems.
The transmission on my Accord went out after 4 years. Looked on the Internet, and sure enough, my generation of Accords have a record of transmission problems. In almost all the cases I read, the symptoms started after 3-5 years.
Toyotas are much better than Hondas. |
Honda Accord transmissions had problems in 1997-1999, but not before or after that. And, they extended their warranty to cover those problems, at least stateside.
Honda makes more combustion engines than anyone else in the world. The quality is far better than anything you can get here. And, it goes beyond the engine.
Most Korean cars have a single rear axle while all hondas have dual rear suspension. That's just a starter.
The civic is far from an econo-box. Maybe the 1990 civics were econo boxes, but the new generation are anything but. Just test drive one.
The S2000 guy: For the price, I'd rather own it than any other in its class; 350Z included. I love the gear box and the handling of the S. It's the perfect roadster. It's an Austin Healey (big 6) without the daily breakdowns. It's almost perfection.
To the Mercedes in the 90s guy. The history of the Benz and that of the Honda are too divergent to compare in the simple manner that you compared them.
I own a 1990 300SEL and its a gem. I'd say that the 80's Benzes were more Euro-trash than anything else, except for their diesels. After the 80s, they started making luxury cars again.
In the early 2000s, benz really started "messing" up. They had more electrical problems than Lucas (Lucas made all the electrical parts for the british cars -MG-AH-Triumph).
Those electrical problems spread like a plague to VWs, Audis, and Volvos because they all buy the same elect parts.
Anyway, it doesn't get any better than Honda.
Korean cars are ok if you are a new driver or if you've never sat in anything more luxurious than a Nissan Sentra, I guess.
I've owned more than 15 cars in 21 years of driving. Most of them were classics and some were luxury cars.
I know what I like and I do not like driving Korean cars. I can drive a Korean car; I do now, but I want a "good car", not a good "cart". |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:13 am Post subject: |
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Then go to Hannam or Gangnam Honda and buy what you like. You know what you have to pay and why you have to pay it. There`s no chance you`re going to get a price close to the MSRP on Honda USA`s site. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:10 am Post subject: |
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In Aus I had a new CRV and loved it, but sold it when I went to China. When I got back I bought a black Sonata with nice rims and it was a lot less than a CRV. I enjoyed the Sonata more, people loved it and it had a huge boot. Problem in Korea is the taxi drivers all drive Sonatas so they look common. A nice Sonata looks cool, is fun to drive and is quite cheap. |
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