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Sethro



Joined: 20 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:15 am    Post subject: What do teachers do when they go home? Reply with quote

Hi! I am in the process of trying to find a job teaching English in Korea. I would like to get a public school job and a start date in early July. The very sweet recruiter that I am dealing with has told me that this is pretty unlikely, as most public schools start in September.

I really am excited about this opportunity to take off for a year and teach in Korea, but if my contract starts/ends in September, how will I get a job when I come back home? I am an elementary school counselor, and getting a job in September when I come home is pretty much not going to happen. So what do teachers/counselors/etc. do when their contracts are over and they come home? Thanks!
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Robot_Teacher



Joined: 18 Feb 2009
Location: Robotting Around the World

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A RTW trip is a great idea when your year is up. Maybe apply ahead of time online for another job at home? Be warned that many people are going into education and other civil services that never intended this route so it's getting more and more competitive in non-profit sectors.

Ever hear of the former business people and a plethora of various professionals becoming teachers, police, firemen, medical specialists, and nurses? Well, now you just did.
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Kurtz



Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Location: ples bilong me

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea is like a drug for many. They know it's bad for them but it's like "just one more year (time)" and so on and so on for years. Do one year and get the hell out.

Apply for jobs online, keep a look out on the job market, network from where you are now and try keep in touch or in the loop, don't just drop out of contact for a whole year.

The reality though (IMHO) is that coming here is quite a waste of time career wise unless you're serious about ESL or you want to appear wordly on your CV.

Fingers crossed I'm out of here September and my networked job comes through.
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refikaM



Joined: 06 May 2006
Location: Gangwondo

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:10 pm    Post subject: going home Reply with quote

Yeah, the timing for start dates in Asia just don't coincide with the N. American school system..Also, since you can't leave Korea til the end of your PS contracts (not sure if you'll be in a PS), it's difficult to even get jobs in other parts of Asia because often they want you there before your contract end for training or whatnot..You'd be real lucky to slide right into a job immediately after leaving here.. Often you just have to find somthing to do for 5-6 months between teaching jobs because of these overlaps...
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prideofidaho



Joined: 19 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thought I'd add that the public schools in Seoul also hire in March, so if you went for that one you could have 6 months to go home and start applying to jobs.
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yoja



Joined: 30 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you could always extend your one-year contract for an additional six months instead of another year, and try to negotiate for some extra cash at the end of that time instead of a plane ticket home and no severance.

It's quite easy for public schools to do this, slightly harder for hakwons to receive the same permission. If you stay in Korea during the winter (or summer) camp season, it's quite easy to work at a camp and make extra money before you head home. Sometimes the visa situation is tricky, but it can be done.

Head home and get a part-time job or work nights or at a temp agency or something for a month or two until you find a good permanent job.

It can be done, but it takes some planning and forethought.

There are *SOME* public school positions that will begin in mid-July, as there will be foreigners who will leave Korea before summer camps start, and they will need to be replaced. Keep asking around, and contacting other recruiters.
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Sethro



Joined: 20 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! There were some really great solutions offered that I had not thought about! Thanks! I will investigate staying an extra six months, as suggested by Yoja. That would actually be perfect!

Thank you again to all who took time to help!
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The Gipkik



Joined: 30 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, stop thinking of "home" as where you were born or raised. Your home is where you are when you are there--and that means a small apartment not too far away from your school. So, what do I do when I get home? I cook dinner or go to a restaurant or go workout or have a nap. There. If you want to live overseas, it's time for a sea of change...
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Sethro



Joined: 20 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do appreciate you sharing your definition of the word home, but please understand that other people may differentiate between the place they live and their home.

I was in the military for eight years, and although I made the most of what I did and was genuinely happy where I was stationed, I did not consider it my home. I lived in those places. My home is where my roots and family are, and the place I plan to return to.

I do hope you are happy where you are! Sounds like you have a pleasant existence.
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The Gipkik



Joined: 30 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Sethro. I appreciate that. As a traveler, I always want to share my, perhaps unnatural, philosophy with others about the definition of home. It can make all the difference in the "world."
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okokok



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
What do teachers do when they go home?


Generally they sob and weep.
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Robot_Teacher



Joined: 18 Feb 2009
Location: Robotting Around the World

PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

okokok wrote:
Quote:
What do teachers do when they go home?


Generally they sob and weep.



How do you know or are you just joking?

I know the job market in the US is dismal as a rainy cold day where the markets cold as ice as around 10,000 per day or 350,000 to 500,000 per month are let go across the many different industries. There is a restructuring of unprecedented magnitude taking place forcing millions to reinvent themselves in how to make a living or perish. Some will do well; some won't transition. Kinda blows me away how it seems like only low paying jobs are available at best which so many are jockeying after just to barely keep the bed, internet, and car.
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okokok



Joined: 27 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robot_Teacher wrote:
okokok wrote:
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What do teachers do when they go home?


Generally they sob and weep.



How do you know or are you just joking?


I'll let you figure that one out sherlock.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Korea is like a drug for many. They know it's bad for them but it's like "just one more year (time)" and so on and so on for years. Do one year and get the hell out.

Apply for jobs online, keep a look out on the job market, network from where you are now and try keep in touch or in the loop, don't just drop out of contact for a whole year.

The reality though (IMHO) is that coming here is quite a waste of time career wise unless you're serious about ESL or you want to appear wordly on your CV.

Fingers crossed I'm out of here September and my networked job comes through.


As someone who returned "home" after 11 years in Korea I will have to beg to differ. I will provide my input on this question....take from it what you will.

I was a full-time certified teacher in Canada before I came to Korea in 1997. I decided to take a sabbatical from my work there and teach abroad. I landed in Korea with the mindset of staying for a year, two at the max. I, like many others had a sizeable student loan as well.

I ended up staying 11 years.

I did get married just under a 18 months after I arrived but I know of many Teachers who are not married and thrived in Korea to then move on to other jobs. It is far more about you than about Korea.

Your time in Korea can be a waste if you decide it will be. Or, it can be a boon and a fertile learning experience. I would hold judgement on those who stay in Korea long and on calling the country a drug that is bad for you.

I started out working at a Hakwon and then moved to teaching Public School and finally University. In each case I accumulated valuable experience that opened doors. After a couple of years in Korea I started a consulting business thrived and that I still run today. In 2008 I switched over to a government job that was to be in Seoul but hat eventually, through personal setbacks and a new offer led me to re-settle in Canada into a government job for the same department. This job was open to me specifically because of the experience, expertise and references I had accumulated in my time in Korea. As I said it is about what you do.

My current position is tenured/permanent and has me traveling to Seoul and Tokyo on a regular basis. I got this offer 3 years ago through contacts and networking. there kurtz is right, you need to network to advance.

What did I get from my time in Korea (professionally, personally and financially speaking)?

I became fluent in a new language, this opened numerous doors in Korea and then here in Canada.

I paid off my loan in under 2 years.

I then managed to buy a house in Canada that we rented for nearly 10 years while we lived in Korea. That house was paid off 8 years and we made a profit off of it for the last 2 years.

We bought an appartment in Busan which we then sold with a tidy profit.

We accumulated savings and invested that disposable income in ways that would not have been possible as a full-time teacher in Canada due to taxes and costs.

I got to learn about a new culture, which broadened my horizons and extended my network of contacts and friends.

Due to my work in Korea and my activities I accumlated a wealth of experience that opened numerous job possibilities.

This happened because of what I put into my time in Korea. If you go to any country and sit on your hands while waiting to go back to "the world" you will go back there with nothing much to show for it.

Some people have also become career educators in Korea and have moved beyind the entry-level job that is the barn door of ESL.

In short, its all up to you really and your attidude will determine much of the result.

Korea is no paradise but then again what country is?

If you work in education in your home country your time in Korea can be extremely beneficial professionally...if you apply yourself.

Best of luck and feel free to pm me or email me if you need advice.

Cheers
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EvanD85



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prideofidaho wrote:
Just thought I'd add that the public schools in Seoul also hire in March, so if you went for that one you could have 6 months to go home and start applying to jobs.


^That's my plan!



I'm really impressed with your post, Patrick. A lot of the people on this forum are very, very bitter and seem to look for an excuse to complain. It's rare someone talks about all the good they found. As someone who is planning on leaving his country to live in Korea for a year, never having done anything like it before, it makes me happy to read your post. ^_^
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