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Going through a public school outside of GEPIK

 
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alphakennyone



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: city heights

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Going through a public school outside of GEPIK Reply with quote

Hi,

I'm considering taking a position in an elementary school in Ilsan. It's unaffiliated with GEPIK.

The salary and benefits seem identical.

My question is is it just as reliable (on time pay, vacation, etc) as SMOE (which I've just been accepted to)? I'm only attracted to this job because at least I'll know for sure I'm in Ilsan.

Also, unlike SMOE, I suppose I can get a letter of release if things go sour?
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think that since Ilsan is in Gyeonggi province, any public school there is controlled by the Gyeonggi Educational Office ministry - the same governmental agency that runs the GEPIC recruitment program - so employment terms would be similar.

As to whether Gyeonggi province would be as reliable as the Seoul government regarding pay, etc., there doesn't figure to be much difference although I think the economy has taken a bigger hit (and is expected to recover more slowly) in Gyeonggi than in Seoul - and they're looking to reduce costs.
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alphakennyone



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: city heights

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, so it is the same as GEPIK, just not recruited through GEPIK?

I'm finding it hard to understand why this school wouldn't have GEPIK placements like all the others..but I'm happy to apply with them as it doesn't involve any "luck of the draw" placements.
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climber159



Joined: 02 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you sign with this school you will be signing a GEPIK contract and will be bound by all the restraints as the other GEPIK teachers are. But you're right; you do have the advantage of meeting the people you will be working with before signing the contract. Use this time wisely and check out the apartment before signing, go over vacation times, and get in writing when and how long the summer/winter camps will be. Good luck.
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alphakennyone



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: city heights

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I'd love to check out the apartment and scribble things on the contract, but unfortunately I'm not in Korea.
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climber159



Joined: 02 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then have them send you a photo or two of the apartment. Especially with GEPIK, airconditioning isn't a given but the heat and humidity are. Even if you're not in Korea, you still have the opportunity to tweak things in the contract and with your apartment.
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Misera



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm planning on leaving in August so I offered to help with finding a replacement to find a better fit than just a person the recruiting agency dumps in their laps. My handler declined and said that the school has a policy to use one of the approved recruiting agencies listed in the GEPIK handout. I didn't really understand why besides that maybe they had some agreement (recruiting fees) but that wasn't the case either b/c I ended up telling them which on the list to use. I recently found out through a friend's coteacher why some schools insisted on using the approved recruiting agencies instead of hiring on their own. She said that if anything happens (teacher pulls a runner, becomes bad.. something..) then GEPIK would not do anything to help the school. It would be the school's problem. It's more to the school's advantage to use a recruiter instead of hiring on their own, than any real matter to you. You'll still be under a GEPIK contract and probably have to go to the GEPIK stuff, just you'll probably be able to discuss certain terms before signing the contract and actually having the opportunity to talk to the school before getting to Korea. You can't scribble on the contract like as if you're there and negotiating real time, but if you are in direct contact with them, you'll be able to tell them or request changes in the contract before signing.
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Johnny_Bravo



Joined: 27 May 2009
Location: R.O.K.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:14 am    Post subject: Re: Going through a public school outside of GEPIK Reply with quote

alphakennyone wrote:
Hi,

I'm considering taking a position in an elementary school in Ilsan. It's unaffiliated with GEPIK.

The salary and benefits seem identical.

My question is is it just as reliable (on time pay, vacation, etc) as SMOE (which I've just been accepted to)? I'm only attracted to this job because at least I'll know for sure I'm in Ilsan.

Also, unlike SMOE, I suppose I can get a letter of release if things go sour?


this is the best way to work for organizations such as GEPIK, because you'll be on a GEPIK contract, yet they won't be placing you to who knows where, you know exactly where you are going and to what school.

This also means you should have the means and opportunity to contact the current FT there (unless you are the first one, unlikely these days outside of rural areas) and that FT can give you the unfiltered no BS story about what the school and environment and everything else is really like.

These are all the advantages that come with going with a recruiter who's recruiting for a particular school rather than applying to the regional dept of education directly.

That's what I did, I got the then FT to corroborate all the 411 I was given by the school coordinator and recruiter and got a lot of other info from him on top of it. The environment and conditions at my school are actually more favorable than the standard gepik contract (and the recruiter smartly advertised this, which drew my attention)

Best decision I ever made.
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alphakennyone



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: city heights

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All good advice. I will try to contact the FT and make sure the apartment has AC.

Thanks folks.
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