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gurudanny



Joined: 24 Oct 2008
Location: Chesapeake, VA

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:00 pm    Post subject: two EPIK teachers, one school Reply with quote

I was told earlier this week that my elementary school will be getting a second Native English teacher. I have always heard that in the EPIK program, it's one native teacher per school. Is it possible that they want to bring another one in to eventually take my place and not renew my contract or get rid of me? Or is it possible that my school is serious about teaching English and wants another teacher to help handle the load? I have about 18 classes a week with around 30 to 40 children in each one, so that could be the case. I just don't want to get in a position where I will compete for renewal with someone else when that time comes.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks a little fishy. Programs like EPIK GEPIK and SMOE are notorious for not being frank with foreign teachers. They might be holding off telling you because they don't want the negative vibe assosiated with refusing your request for renewal.

The best thing to do is ask frankly whats going on. The person whoever you will be talking to will be extremly nervous and will try to beat around the bush. If it's true that your school is not willing to renew your contract you still have a pretty good shot at a transfer. How you behave when inquiring will determine if you get a shot at renewal. If you school does not want to renew you based on your teaching find out what you did wrong and try to make amends.
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n�fara



Joined: 14 Jul 2007
Location: The Island

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard of EPIK elementary schools having more than one teacher.
In one case, it was due to the fact that the elementary school was huge, and the 22 hours a week teaching would be taken up by the 22 classes in a single grade...
For the other case, it was because the school was going to go a more intensive route and have the FT help out in other subjects, such as science and math.

Your school doesn't sound huge, so perhaps they are hoping to have additional classes offered, and need a second FT to assist.
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warmachinenkorea



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a Elementary school in my area with 2 EPIK teachers. I asked to move to Elementary from my HS and they have told me all Elementary's will have TALK teachers fomr now on.
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Goku



Joined: 10 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They will undoubtely renew you.

Very rarely will they reject a renewal request. Which is part of the reason that so many new EPIK applicants weren't accepted.

Unless you are smoking a crack pipe while scuffling in hemp sandals while beating kids a 2X4 an EPIK job is pretty secure.

And I have also heard of multiple EPIK teachers in an Elementary school. I've heard of it in middle school too but that was just weird.


AND OF COURSE, I would do what fishead recommends. Because if they didn't have an FT a previous year and all of a sudden have one makes would make me feel uneasy. I have to agree and say call them at the very least and ask what the situation is.
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gurudanny



Joined: 24 Oct 2008
Location: Chesapeake, VA

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fishead soup wrote:
This looks a little fishy. Programs like EPIK GEPIK and SMOE are notorious for not being frank with foreign teachers. They might be holding off telling you because they don't want the negative vibe assosiated with refusing your request for renewal.

The best thing to do is ask frankly whats going on. The person whoever you will be talking to will be extremly nervous and will try to beat around the bush. If it's true that your school is not willing to renew your contract you still have a pretty good shot at a transfer. How you behave when inquiring will determine if you get a shot at renewal. If you school does not want to renew you based on your teaching find out what you did wrong and try to make amends.


I thought it sounded a little fishy as well, especially since she will be here the beginning of next week, instead of waiting until the next EPIK intake in August. I will ask my co-teacher what's going on,. At least that way, I will have the full story instead of just a piece of the puzzle. And alittle more information: I've only been in my contract for 3 months. I don't think that's enough time to measure my abilities, especially since I have never taught children before. I have done my best, however, to become a good teacher.
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:13 pm    Post subject: 2 Epik teachers Reply with quote

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"I have about 18 classes a week with around 30 to 40 children in each one, so that could be the case. "


That's par for the course. My old elementary school had 800 students, & I only ever taught grades 4, 5, & 6 on a regular basis, and each grade had around 4 classes each, with 36 students each. I'd also teach grade 3 occasionally & very rarely grades 1 & 2. Never kindergarten. With special classes once or twice a week, there's the 22 hours in the contract taken care of.

But at my current small school, there is only one grade each of 4, 5, & 6, so I'm also teaching Kindergarten & grades 1, 2 & 3 on a regular basis.

Unless the new Native speaker is being brought in to handle the kindergarten & grades 1, 2 & 3 levels, at a large school, then I'd agree with others, that it sounds a little fishy. My own experience reinforces others claims that Epik are less than frank. There are many schools without a native speaker, too, for various reasons.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:26 pm    Post subject: Re: 2 Epik teachers Reply with quote

chris_J2 wrote:
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"I have about 18 classes a week with around 30 to 40 children in each one, so that could be the case. "


That's par for the course. My old elementary school had 800 students, & I only ever taught grades 4, 5, & 6 on a regular basis, and each grade had around 4 classes each, with 36 students each. I'd also teach grade 3 occasionally & very rarely grades 1 & 2. Never kindergarten. With special classes once or twice a week, there's the 22 hours in the contract taken care of.

But at my current small school, there is only one grade each of 4, 5, & 6, so I'm also teaching Kindergarten & grades 1, 2 & 3 on a regular basis.

Unless the new Native speaker is being brought in to handle the kindergarten & grades 1, 2 & 3 levels, at a large school, then I'd agree with others, that it sounds a little fishy. My own experience reinforces others claims that Epik are less than frank. There are many schools without a native speaker, too, for various reasons.


This is more reason to sit down with your handler and find out why this is occuring. If they just plan to strengthen there program you have a rough ride ahead particularly if the newcomer is a keener. You will be compaired with each other. If the other person speaks Korean better or is liked better. Or appears to be fitting into Korean culture better. The OP will lose out.
If they do intend to replace the OP this would give him/her enough time to arrange a transfer.
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teachergirltoo



Joined: 28 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't be overly concerned. My school has had two for the last 4 years. We each teach different grades. Another friend of mine also received a second teacher at her school last year.
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gurudanny



Joined: 24 Oct 2008
Location: Chesapeake, VA

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just talked to my teacher. He told me that She is not coming next week. She is coming next semester. It has always been the plan for some time to have 2 English teachers, he said. I should really think of renewing my contract before she comes, just in case.
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