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Brand New...Fender Japanese Jazzmaster

 
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meteor



Joined: 27 Mar 2007
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:44 pm    Post subject: Brand New...Fender Japanese Jazzmaster Reply with quote

Location: Daegu

Selling a new Fender Japanese Jazzmaster guitar. Color is Black...comes with a Fender soft case. Bought in Japan in April...still has the plastic on the pick guard.

I 'll try and upload a picture but I don't have a digital camera. If you know guitars then you know what this one is about. Purchased at Ishibashi music store in Tokyo for 84,000 yen, which is 1,100,000 won. Selling it for 900,000 which is $200 off and pretty much the best price you'll get on a brand new Jazzmaster anywhere.

E-mail addy is [email protected] if anyone is interested. thanks.
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aphase



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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a "Crafted in Japan" model or a "Made in Japan" one? (Should say on the guitar).

Also, I'm surprised you had to pay so much for it. I thought the japanese jazzmasters were more in line of the upper 500- lower 600 dollar range.

For the price you paid, I would think that it would have been more worth it to go for a made in America reissue.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its hard to figure based on ebay but the ones on there are selling for more than 600US. These were popular back in the day for surf rock but have never been popular with Jazz musicians (from what I understand). I heard that in the 80's it was easy to find these real cheap in pawn shops (the originals) but as the prices for original strats and teles become high people started collecting these and then they skyrocketed too. I don't know what the difference in quality and value between one made in Japan and an American re-issue is . Can someone enlighten me?
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aphase



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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Golem wrote:
Its hard to figure based on ebay but the ones on there are selling for more than 600US. These were popular back in the day for surf rock but have never been popular with Jazz musicians (from what I understand). I heard that in the 80's it was easy to find these real cheap in pawn shops (the originals) but as the prices for original strats and teles become high people started collecting these and then they skyrocketed too. I don't know what the difference in quality and value between one made in Japan and an American re-issue is . Can someone enlighten me?


To answer your question about the difference between the American re-issues and the Japanese made ones, its mainly about the pickups. Difference on the web was describe as this:
"The pickups of the American Jazzmaster are discribed as being very warm and musical, and the Japanese are more strat-like, very trebly, and feed back"

Many people who by the japanese models change out the pickups with better ones.

As for the difference between a Crafted in Japan and Made in Japan, wikipedia has this to say:

"Fender's Japanese facility is noted for the high quality of its offset-waist guitars. These MIJ or CIJ (Made or Crafted In Japan) reissues have been sporadically available outside Japan since the late 1980s, either from Japanese dealers willing to ship overseas, or from US dealers who have imported them. However, the "C.I.J." Jazzmasters are often criticized for essentially having narrow Stratocaster pickups inside the wide soapbar Jazzmaster housings, thus giving the guitar a Strat/Jaguar "honk" rather than the classic, mellow Jazzmaster sound."

Anyways I'm still curious as to the OP's response on which kind it is.
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aphase



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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Golem wrote:
Its hard to figure based on ebay but the ones on there are selling for more than 600US. These were popular back in the day for surf rock but have never been popular with Jazz musicians (from what I understand). I heard that in the 80's it was easy to find these real cheap in pawn shops (the originals) but as the prices for original strats and teles become high people started collecting these and then they skyrocketed too. I don't know what the difference in quality and value between one made in Japan and an American re-issue is . Can someone enlighten me?


To answer your question about the difference between the American re-issues and the Japanese made ones, its mainly about the pickups. Difference on the web was describe as this:
"The pickups of the American Jazzmaster are discribed as being very warm and musical, and the Japanese are more strat-like, very trebly, and feed back"

Many people who by the japanese models change out the pickups with better ones.

As for the difference between a Crafted in Japan and Made in Japan, wikipedia has this to say:

"Fender's Japanese facility is noted for the high quality of its offset-waist guitars. These MIJ or CIJ (Made or Crafted In Japan) reissues have been sporadically available outside Japan since the late 1980s, either from Japanese dealers willing to ship overseas, or from US dealers who have imported them. However, the "C.I.J." Jazzmasters are often criticized for essentially having narrow Stratocaster pickups inside the wide soapbar Jazzmaster housings, thus giving the guitar a Strat/Jaguar "honk" rather than the classic, mellow Jazzmaster sound."

Anyways I'm still curious as to the OP's response on which kind it is.
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meteor



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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys..good to talk guitar with some of the boys over here.

Price- for the price i paid which is US$870 for a new instrument, you would not get anything close to a new American Jag or Jazzmaster. You can check it out on Musician's friend..they are selling there new for about US$1900...let alone over in Asia. The American instuments are better..and they also cost way more. Basically all the guitar shops in Tokyo were selling the Jag and Jazzmasters for the same price, and whatever American instruments they had were just silly and not worth it for anyone from back home to buy them over here IMO.

MIJ or CIJ- It's CIJ...and i can't tell you I'm an expert on that because I don't know much about it..but I can tell you what the guitar sounds like.

I played a 79 American strat for 8 years in my old band, and this guitar sounds nothin like a strat, at least to my ears. It has that classic surf guitar string action to it, and quite a different tone altogether. It's a deeper tone than the Spear Les Paul copy I'm recording with over here (with good reason since that has P 90's on it), and it was deeper than the jags i tried out in the store also ,but you do get a little high end ginch depending how you EQ it because the string action does cut through. The flip side of that though is the chug on it is pretty good and really cuts through nicely.


Anyways, I can always e-mail some sound samples to anyone who wants to check it out, or if you're in or near Daegu you can just come by and jam with it a bit.
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Golem



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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like you are honest about what you have and what its like. One would hope that anyone wanting to buy a guitar at this price would be trying it out before they buy it.

Its off topic, but would anyone reading this thread be able to recommend a guitar tech in Seoul. I want to get the pickups swapped out in my Ibanez (possible for a Jazz/JB humbucker combo). There is also another minor issue (I might even be imagining it) I want to see if said tech could help me with.
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ernie



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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my go-to guitar tech / parts / setup place in seoul is called stompbox. it's in the hongdae area, kind of in between hapjeong, sangsu, and hongdae stations, down the street from swing guitars. the guy there is friendly, he knows his stuff, and he has some great gear. his rates for servicing instruments are very reasonable.
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meteor



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gonna give this one more go around. thanks
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Cheonmunka



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to post some quick mp3 samples this is the way to upload:

http://www.lightningmp3.com
Real easy and reliable guy who does this holding site.
Files delete automagically after 90 days.
Upload is fast.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheonmunka... please explain that jet avatar... I'm curious.
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Cheonmunka



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooaw,
It was made during the sunshine policy of D J.
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