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crossmr

Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject:

michaelambling wrote:

For everyday life, sure. But I'd rather be a Canadian and get arrested, injured, unemployed, organize a political protest, than a Korean, who has to deal with corrupt police and government, a lack of social services, and a developing and unsanitary health system.

The Canadian government has its fair share of corruption and scandals. Social services are truly hit and miss, and frankly if I need a non-life saving operation, I'd rather have it done in the US or Korea because there is a chance I might get it done before I die.
Transit is pretty everyday life and considering how many Koreans have access to Seoul's transit system (I can't comment on how it is in some of the other bigger cities) I would say more Koreans have access to better transit than most Canadians.

bassexpander

Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: Typical Korean Protectionism [mod edit] (iPhone)

michaelambling wrote:

superacidjax wrote:

Live streaming TV? BFD. Who watches network TV in the US? When there is live streaming HBO, then maybe I'll care. Who needs WiBro? Who wants to pay for internet by the kilobyte? That's so 1998. With the iPhone, I can actually log onto the web and watch any damned thing I want. Like I really want to watch some sappy KBS drama on the subway, when I could watch a HiDef movie instead or watching streaming whatever from wherever.

The point isn't what YOU want, the point is what the technology can do. Plus, there is a flat-fee wibro--I think it's 15k a month.

But, whatever, dude.

Wibro sucks for anything but basic surfing and e-mail. It's not fast enough for internet telephony, and it COSTS money. I'd rather have free wifi.

Hen Haochi

Joined: 07 Jun 2009

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:20 pm Post subject:

The point is that technology, like anything else, improves when incentives and competition exist. Neither of which is the case in this country.

simIAN

Joined: 02 Sep 2007

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:29 pm Post subject:

Trioxin_Failure wrote:

superacidjax wrote:

Trioxin_Failure wrote:

Personally i'm glad the iphone isn't here and hope it never comes. This way I don't have to see all the trendy "individualists" wandering around playing with their annoying yuppie toy.

Hell let's kick apple out like they did wal-mart (another beautiful day in Korea) and make a big bonfire for the ipods too.

In conclusion: Apple sux

"trendy" huh? Ok. Just like the original Apple (why would an individual ever need a personal computer?)

Annoying "yuppie toy?" ok. Whatever. What's wrong with being a "yuppie?"

I suppose you're all about granola and optional showers. Go hug a tree you communist.

Let's kick Samsung out of Korea too while we're at it. Sounds to me like you are one of those anti-corporate wanks that logs onto Dave's with your HP laptop while watching Office episodes stolen from bit torrent.

Stop being a hypocrite. The fact you're on a computer makes your arguments a little stupid.

well somebody rode the short bus to school while listening to his Ipod.

For one my argument would only be hypocritical if I were writing this on an APPLE computer (notice how my post doesn't say Microsoft sux) which I am not. This is a windows PC, and I even think it runs on XP (work comp).

And Apple did make some personal computers, then made deals with the school systems of NY to force these pieces of garbage into our classrooms as the only option, basically creating a generation of kids raised on ass-backwards menu systems who had to relearn everything on an IBM compatible system later on. I had to write my high school term paper on one of those purple Imac pieces of garbage, which of course made any work outside of the classroom impossible, not to mention didn't help jack all in preparation for the real world where every damn report was written with microsoft word. So yeah, great job apple, you system was so efficient it took you 20 years to break down and make computers that could run on windows.

What's wrong with being a yuppie? Does that question even deserve an answer?

And for your information Before Korea I was strictly a gateway user (loved that whole design your own computer way before the idiots at Dell ever thought of it) Now I own a Fujitsu and a Samsung, I have never, nor plan to ever, watch an episode of "the office" and the only time I plan on eating granola is when its wrapped in dead animal. I'm not a hippy, hippies like Ipods.

Oh and I'm not anti corporation, just the ones with annoying agendas, wal-marts being the most annoying, which can be seen in the case with green day's new album.

Conclusion: Yup, Apple still sux

For the win!

oskinny1

Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject:

Goku wrote:

Apple is a fad.

Been using Apples for 25 years. Never once wore a beret.

If you do not like something, that is fine. But hoping that others do not get it because it fits into some imaginary mold that you've created is a little strange.

michaelambling

Joined: 31 Dec 2008
Location: Paradise

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:28 am Post subject: Re: Typical Korean Protectionism [mod edit] (iPhone)

bassexpander wrote:

michaelambling wrote:

superacidjax wrote:

The point isn't what YOU want, the point is what the technology can do. Plus, there is a flat-fee wibro--I think it's 15k a month.

But, whatever, dude.

Wibro sucks for anything but basic surfing and e-mail. It's not fast enough for internet telephony, and it COSTS money. I'd rather have free wifi.

Good to know--I've been thinking of getting it for a while, but I probably won't; without it, I have more motivation to get some reading done on the subway.

oskinny1: first of all, your avatar effing rocks. Secondly, you're quite right--Mac haters (and Windows haters, for that matter) have always confounded me, firstly for getting so vehement about an operating system, and secondly for creating a fantasy around said operating system where all of its users are losers of one type or another. I can imagine Richard III charging his army against the Lancastrians for using Vista.

Chambertin

Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: Gunsan

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:47 pm Post subject:

"I can imagine Richard III charging his army against the Lancastrians for using Vista" Now THATS funny. Only because its so true. The Mac vs. Windows thing is plan dumb. People have preferences, that�s it. Those who bring hate and other factors into it are just insulting themselves.

cangel

Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:23 pm Post subject:

The Japanese are still 2-3 years ahead in cell technology. Don't let the antiquated Japanese models you see in the US and Korea fool you. Those are almost all old models.

Goku

Joined: 10 Dec 2008

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject:

oskinny1 wrote:

Goku wrote:

Apple is a fad.

The man wears a black turtle neck

http://www.mobilecomputermag.co.uk/images/stories/news/2009/01/steve-jobs-macworld.jpg

If only this beatnick-apple disease was only a nightmare I would sleep better at night.

Just yesterday I DID see a fellow foreigner with a plaid grey berret and a white Ipod.

I almost shat myself a starbucks double expresso latte with soy milk.

Bryan

Joined: 29 Oct 2007

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject:

superacidjax wrote:

jvalmer wrote:

I kind of like how Korea is quite protective of it's industries. If only cough... cough... Canada would do the same, maybe some Canadian companies can flourish and become worldwide corporations.

Or Canada's economy can go the way of Korea's (slowly down the tubes due to the increasing loss of competitive advantage.)

Canada is number 10 on the world economic competitiveness rankings:

http://www.weforum.org/en/initiatives/gcp/Global%20Competitiveness%20Report/index.htm

Higher than Korea. Canada's trade liberalization is actually helping the country. While Korea's anti-liberalization is harming it, despite the Park Chun-hee industrialization movement of the 1970s.

Korea's "worldwide corporations" are mostly empty shells. If Korea were forced to compete on equal trade footing, they'd quickly be dwarfed. The amount of subsidy that goes into companies like Hyundai and Samsung is very disturbing. Canada far exceeds Korea in standard of living.. that should be the real indicator.. how well the average person lives.

Canada should NEVER become more like Korea (at least in economics!)

This is a great post. I am assuming you've studied economics on your own or in school. Very well thought out--trade liberalism, not the antiquated 18th century school of mercantilism, is what brings prosperity to countries.

jdog2050

Joined: 17 Dec 2006

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject:

Sapa wrote:

The iPhone clearly is better than any other phone around, BUT it doesn't have DMB TV. That's a great plus for any phone. I know I would love it if I could watch live TV on the subway back home. I think that's why it wont sell really well here when it eventually gets released.
I would definitely get one anyway.

Actually there IS an attachment for DMB. They sell it at the Iphone stores in Japan. There really is no reason not to bring it except for protectionism. It's pathetic.

jdog2050

Joined: 17 Dec 2006

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject:

victorology wrote:

superacidjax wrote:

My question is that if the iPhone sucks so tremendously, then what's Korea crying about? It's clearly inferior. It certainly won't sell. After all, it doesn't have Internet Explorer.. the World's Best Browser.

I think people are confusing the Korean government and Korean corporations here. It's the carriers that don't want the iPhone. They don't want customers to browse the internet over wi-fi when they could browse the Web over 3G and charge ridiculous prices for it.

Here's the thing: it's definitely the software and the app-store. In Korea, you can find the Nokia Experia. It's a great phone, and yet Korea clearly isn't pooping itself with fear about it. Why? No appstore. No worries.

crossmr

Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:25 pm Post subject:

jdog2050 wrote:

Sapa wrote:

Actually there IS an attachment for DMB. They sell it at the Iphone stores in Japan. There really is no reason not to bring it except for protectionism. It's pathetic.

An attachment, its built in on the phones here. You just screw in an antenna on some of them. Unless the attachment is being bundled for free, its still not competitive.

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