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[madoka]

[Kikomom]

Immigration and the MOE need to get together and come up with a solid program for tracking visas, ARCs, what schools have been sponsoring these, what teachers have moved on to other jobs--cancelling one visa, going to Japan, etc. for a new one--and what teachers have packed up, turned in their ARCs, and are gone.

Sounds like a summer intern job to me (that simple). These numbers should be their first clue that the current system is flawed.

[wylies99]

[wylies99]

[digsydinner]

[moosehead]

[moosehead]

a simple explanation for the +22,000 allegedly "unaccounted" teachers is the fact they have arrived within the past 90 days and have yet to register for their alien registration cards - hence they are not yet in the system.

I saw this article and was going to post on it but of course, a thread was already started.

this article was badly researched, if at all, and I'm wondering if the reporter even bothered to truly understand the details of the bill that's being submitted since it was described as being so similar to the law already in effect for E teachers' visa requirements.

I would caution some of you to hold off on your indignance when reading such poorly reported articles and concentrate instead on pressuring editors of papers such as the K Times to give the readership - i.e. the E speaking community - more reliable, intelligent and accurate coverage of topics.

going off the deep end over such a trivial and again, badly researched article only gives the impression that the reporter DID do her/his job when in all honesty, they most likely did not.

[Yesterday]

Here is Seoul Immigration at work - "kidnapping" foreigners (Koreans)

http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LS2D&mid=sec&sid1=102&sid2=59b&oid=055&aid=0000160594

translated by "Korea Beat" - http://koreabeat.com/?p=4894

If you think you�re being kidnapped, relax - it�s just immigration checking up on you..... A crackdown on illegal immigrants is being conducted indiscriminately and without regard for human rights.

[vincentmiser]

My 2 cents:

I got here a month ago and my Cannabis test came out negative, and when we got to Suwon immigration, the guy behind the counter said,

'Oh, but that wasn't necessary anyway. We don't look at that anymore.'

[Goku]

So people are serious when they say that illegal mexicans are treated better?

Somewhere, a mexican fleeing from la migra running a marathon over fences and bridges getting paid $3 an hour to manual labor like a mule, just to feed his family, head has just exploded because of that statement.

I'm sure he's totally in the same boat with some lazy ass kid who wants to get paid to party and teach english but was too incompetent, underqualified, lazy, or stupid to get a visa like every other normal teacher that comes over.

Oh yeah, those situations are equitable...

Part of the reason for different treatment is different conditions.

An illegal immigrant from mexico may not have any money to fall back on (should that be a suprise considering they carry almost nothing across the border?). Which is why they get "rights" like medical insurance. If you deny health insurance to illegal mexican immigrants there are cases where it's almost indefinately a death sentence. Whereas not granting medical insurance to an illegal in Korea means they have to pay more. And lets not forget the HUGE expensive cost of medical procedures in Korea . We're talking less than 50% for a lot of procedures than it would be in America

Not to mention an illegal teacher in Korea gets like 10 times a migrant workers daily pay. I'm sitting inside my office with a nice computer, drinking my columbian expresso, teaching the most natural thing to me, my native language. OK... yeah that really compares to a Mexican who is under the swelterting heat right now, working in a construction company moving large bricks to send beans to his family in mexico.

I know this is an exagerration of examples, but keep in mind, the conditions and the premise of migrating in the first place. Most mexicans go to America go to avoid poverty, death, and hunger for their families. Some die crossing the border due to dehydration.

Whereas an illegal English teacher is someone who has a big problem applying for a visa (what reason, it's probably a bad one) and is probably semi-educated but refuses to do manual labor. He is neither threatened with death, family emergencies, nor startvation. He could always fall back on McDonalds if was ever really in a bad situation.

Well G-Fing willikers. Is anyone suprised illegals in this country are treated differently? Should or would we expect a Korean to say "Oh poor illegal American, I know you swam across the ocean just so you could send money to your starving American family. You're being underpaid, overworked, and you almost have no clothes at all. Let me help you..."
There aren't enough rolls I could do to ease how pissed off I am.

Is anyone else pissed off as I am about this comparison?

Admittedly illegal mexicans aren't treated that bad. But that's because they have poorer and more pitiful coniditons.

The illegal American D-Bag that comes to Korea isn't crossing a border to feed his family or to escape certain starvation. He's just F-ing lazy. He could get a job in his American hometown at the steel mill. If I really wanted I can go back to America and grab an entry level job cold calling. Fact is, I'm a spoiled brat who wants to do an easier job teaching my native language for more. In no way should I be complaining that mexicans are treated better.

Jesus H. Christ, this is the lowest of low I've seen on Dave's. This has got to put "Kimberly" up there as one of the lightest of offenses.

[michaelambling]

I think a distinction needs to be made between the way illegal immigrants are treated by the government and by their employers/society.

[Young FRANKenstein]

[TheUrbanMyth]

[CentralCali]

An illegal alien in the US has no problem with taking the money he's earned in America and spending it in America. Often, no, routinely, legal aliens in South Korea are denied services for the simple fact that they are not Korean. And when this is brought to the government's attention, nothing is done. The South Korean government is complicit in anti-foreigner discrimination in this country.

The article's not bad; actually, it's pretty good reporting for a change from the KT's norm. What's bad is the utter malarkey the representative is spouting. Let's not blame the reporter for the lies of the rep.

[JongnoGuru]