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yoja



Joined: 30 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now you know what it's like to be a fat girl, except they don't feel sorry for themselves as much as you do. Rolling Eyes If romantic relationships were all about finding someone with a great personality, a good sense of humor, and a modicum of intelligence, then there would be no market for miniskirts or porn.

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I sometimes grieve because so many women have missed out on me.


Who exactly are you grieving for? You hint that it's because of all the hotties who have passed you over to be with someone else, but I don't buy it. For whatever reason, it's easier for you to sit around and "grieve" than it is to get off your duff and go find a woman. What exactly are you afraid of?

What generally happens is that 80% of all guys try to hook up with the hottest 20% of women, and that results in a lot of frustration, because 20% of the women can have their pick...so why would they settle for you? Then the rest of the women end up with various "self-esteem issues" and the rest of the guys end up with someone who is kind and loving and quite grateful to have them, but probably not a trophy wife.

If you really want to be "happy" then you have two options (not counting prostitutes):

1. Through wealth or plastic surgery, become more appealing to your target demographic (all those poor, poor women who don't know what great ecstasy it would be to date you).

2. Lower your standards and find yourself a woman who also is a great catch, but because she may be less attractive in some way, has been ignored by all of the studly, aggressive manly-men out there.

If you're really as sensitive, kind, good-looking, and intelligent as you claim, the first option won't really appeal to you, because you'll be looking for someone who is also a sensitive, balanced, well-developed individual.

Stop moping and feeling sorry for yourself. Take responsibility (responsibility, not blame) for where you're at in life, and make some goals and take some action. Grieving over what could have been but never was is not very attractive to anyone.

And if this is your best attempt at trolling, I would suggest that next time you choose a username like "chubby<nationality>chick" to be more effective...those threads get a lot more attention.
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't feel sorry for myself, I just feel a bit miffed about not being with someone who I think is above average.

I accept avoiding people isn't an effective strategy and I realize my reluctance to approach women or most people for that matter, is an issue I must resolve in order to succeed in this department.

I'm not trolling, but surely, there must be people out there with good characteristics who wonder why on earth they have not achieved as much as others in the romance department.

I suppose I'm thinking aloud on this topic.

I am a walking contradiction. Part of me wants female company, while another part of me doesn't. I am also quite pedantic when it comes to my routine, which I know could be a major hurdle to cross for any potential woman.

I am also a bit inflexible, set in my ways, an old man stuck in a youngish person's body. Laughing
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agoodmouse



Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're old? How old are you? Cool
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

36. Laughing
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beercanman



Joined: 16 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yoja wrote:

What generally happens is that 80% of all guys try to hook up with the hottest 20% of women...


Reminds me of a comedian I saw once who mentioned how all women want the same 10% of guys. I guess most people have to settle for not getting someone awesome?

Hey, maybe another country, like somewhere in southeast Asia is better suited for some guys.
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Robot_Teacher



Joined: 18 Feb 2009
Location: Robotting Around the World

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like in business and life, the ol' 80/20 rule comes into play. 80% going for 20% of what's available. 20% consuming 80% of what's available.

And then we have the 50/2 rule. 2% are entitled to 50% of what's available when it comes to women and money the world over.

It's a tough world out there brothers. You gotta be hip at the bank to play your hands on an actress looking doll.

You know, fatties are the most friendly and sweetest hearted beings. Consider an average woman if without and wanting a LTR.

If wanting a hot sexy hot to trot thing to play with be prepared to burn them dolluhs like a man with a cap on that says, "Dumb dunce, please take advantage of me, because I'm desperately lonely and hornee." You'd be amazed how many rich men blow 10X or more in a week of what is our annual gross pay in pursuit of companionship due to loneliness while being among millions of people every day. sick world.
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



Joined: 28 May 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Robot_Teacher"]Like in business and life, the ol' 80/20 rule comes into play. 80% going for 20% of what's available. 20% consuming 80% of what's available.

And then we have the 50/2 rule. 2% are entitled to 50% of what's available when it comes to women and money the world over.

It's a tough world out there brothers. You gotta be hip at the bank to play your hands on an actress looking doll.

You know, fatties are the most friendly and sweetest hearted beings. Consider an average woman if without and wanting a LTR.

If wanting a hot sexy hot to trot thing to play with be prepared to burn them dolluhs like a man with a cap on that says, "Dumb dunce, please take advantage of me, because I'm desperately lonely and hornee." You'd be amazed how many rich men blow 10X or more in a week of what is our annual gross pay in pursuit of companionship due to loneliness while being among millions of people every day. sick world


It's not a sick world. It's an unequal world.

It's only sick if you percieve it as such. And thus you feel a sense of dissatisfaction.

Gotta get used to accepting - that's just the way it is.

Get a hottie drunk, give her a fun time in the right situation, get her away from the rugby / football guys crowd and the average guy can get her in the sack.....

Trust me.....
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DorkothyParker



Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday at the bookstore, I passed a book in the humor section called Hot Chicks with Douchebags. I remarked to my husband that those couples are probably pretty much alike. In reality, it's douchebag chicks with douchebag dudes. Now, do you really wanna be with some hot dame with zero intelligence, vacant eyes, and shallow personality? Doubtful.

And if you want a woman who is beautiful inside and out, intelligent, successful, personable and perfect in every way, well, are you as well?
The chicks who go for guys who are jerks are probably not very nice people anyway. Do cut the "woe is me" attitude, though, if you aren't giving introverted, average pretty, nice girls the time of day.

It's not really about settling, it's about knowing what traits matter, and what don't. I don't know you or your situation, but I do think things have a way of working themselves out. Perhaps you can meet a nice girl at a bookstore or coffee shop?
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The Gipkik



Joined: 30 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Women are interested in men who make good eye contact as an initial introduction. This doesn't mean a formal intro. It could be a glance across a crowded room. A quick sweeping glance at a woman or an overextended stare tells a lot about you from an instinctive level--and both aren't very effective. It also matter when because a lot of women are more receptive after work hours. It also depends where and who they are with.

You also have to know something about yourself. What kind of women do you have chemistry with? You can only find this out through eye contact and you'll know it when it happens. This has nothing to do with ethnicity either. I can tell if a woman is attracted to me by a 2 second glance into her eyes. It might not get any further than that because the 2 second glance has expectations built into it that may or may not materialize upon getting to know her further, but if it does linger, you're onto something.

Of course, there is also the tell: the many subtle cues that go on. On a subway, a girl might stand really close to me, she might lean towards me, she might glance at me and not look again until I give her a clear and fixed look, she might lean into me, she might give me real attitude as in a mocking "I don't notice you at all" way. It's endlessly fascinating.
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Zantetsuken



Joined: 21 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why haven't you talked to your homeboys Allah and Mohammed? They'll hook you up fast bro.
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jenno



Joined: 08 Jun 2009
Location: Anyang - BeomGye

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fascinating subject and it seems we have many different takes on the matter.

From writing and researching about single men and the dating game, here are a few things to note.

- Women want to feel wooed and special. Like a lady. So this usually does mean the guy needs to make the first move.
- This also means you have to make some sort of effort. She doesn't want a guy that doesn't try. This means if you go on a date or out somewhere, pay attention to your hygiene, the way you dress, etc. And pay for the first date! She wants to feel taken care of.
- BUT be careful with this. Women can spot a sucker a mile away. She doesn't want to "date down" -- she wants to date an equal or higher. So do NOT be a pushover, a floor mat... whatever you wanna call it. Don't be a wussy; don't cling to her ("will you call me back?" etc), don't try to buy her love with gifts and expensive dates all the time. Instead try to get her to see you as a strong male, someone who she can have fun with. Ideally you want to do something that gets your heart pumping on dates - roller coasters, live music, hiking, etc.
- Your first move can simply be smiling at her. A genuine, up-to-your-eyes type of smile will make you more attractive and let her know SHE is the reason for your smile. It's cheap and won't hurt your ego if she's not interested -- she'll just look away or ignore you.
- If you can't bring yourself to make an effort, be prepared to be lonely. Sure there is the offchance some female might mistake your brooding, woe-is-me attitude as dark and mysterious... but that's unlikely.

Right now you come off as "I'm so great but nobody knows it... Suckers." Well you're not giving them a chance to know you at all. Sometimes you gotta fake that enthusiasm in the beginning... Either that or say hello your right hand for the rest of your lonely nights.[/list]
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shifter2009



Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: wisconsin

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.theonion.com/content/opinion/but_if_we_started_dating_it?utm_source=c-section

I think this is something a few guys and girls can relate too.
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you everybody for your views (excluding the axe man).

Truthfully, I feel exhausted thinking about romance. I haven't the energy or drive to adopt any of those techniques.

My marriage was so miserable, and it took a lot of courage for me to get married in the first place.

I honestly 'hate' the idea of faking it for anybody, I find the idea humiliating. I've always felt disappointed by humanity in general.

I still like myself though, kind of.

The purpose of this thread is not to 'play my own violin', I wanted to encourage posters to share their honest view about love.

I appreciate my comments may sound sad, but I really cannot fake my feelings on this issue. In short, women are wonderful, but I have always felt it is an impossible task to maintain their interest.

My marriage confirmed to me that I am not a relationship person, I rarely engage in real life conversation, to maintain a relationship is far too difficult.

I still love curry. Laughing
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Oreovictim



Joined: 23 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yoja wrote:

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I sometimes grieve because so many women have missed out on me.


What generally happens is that 80% of all guys try to hook up with the hottest 20% of women, and that results in a lot of frustration, because 20% of the women can have their pick...so why would they settle for you?


Yeah, I see that quite a bit. You see a guy at a bar who's out-of-shape/poorly dressed/whatever, trying to hook up with the hottest woman. There's a difference with what you want and what you can actually have. But women are the same way, too. And someone mentioned the comedian's comment, yep, it was Chris Rock who said, "90% of the women out there want to fvck 10% of the men."

jenno wrote:

- Your first move can simply be smiling at her. A genuine, up-to-your-eyes type of smile will make you more attractive and let her know SHE is the reason for your smile. It's cheap and won't hurt your ego if she's not interested -- she'll just look away or ignore you.


This is good advice. If you're not at the comfort level to start a conversation with a stranger, a smile is a good start. I find the women to be more approachable here than in America. Even if they're not interested, they don't shoot you down. They're all about 눈치. (Sensibility or diplomacy, I think.) There have been times in America where I'd strike up a conversation with just an average-looking woman, and she'd turn around and walk away in the middle of my sentence. (And for the record, I didn't dress like a slob, smell, or stare at the chest department.) Putting in a little effort will go a long way.

So brush the dust off, keep your chin up, and get out there, sonny.
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