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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"In most of the world, addresses are written in order from most specific to general information, starting with the addressee and ending with the largest geographical unit."

"In many cities in Asia, most minor streets were never named. This is still the case today in much of Japan. When postal systems were introduced, it became necessary to number buildings to aid in mail delivery."
Source:
Address Format, Address
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mailing_address_format_by_country#Address_format

Korea Post
http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/service/service03_01.jsp

The address on the ePost (Korea Post) website is written this way:
197, Jayangno, Gwangjin-gu, Seoul 143-766 Korea
http://www.epost.go.kr/eng/Enpost_Introduction1.html

Right location for postal codes
http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/service/service03_06.jsp

This image shows the location of address and the "right location for postal codes."
http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/eimg/service/envelope01.gif

Postal addressing systems
http://www.upu.int/post_code/en/postal_addressing_systems_member_countries.shtml

Republic of Korea, Postcode Type and Position (PDF Download)
http://www.upu.int/post_code/en/countries/KOR.pdf

International Bureau of the UPU
Programme Manager "Parcels and Logistics"
Case postale
3000 BERNE15
SWITZERLAND
Source:
Universal Postal Union
http://www.upu.int/parcel_post/en/contacts.html


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Goku



Joined: 10 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
Robot_Teacher wrote:
Now in Korea, a place where the streets have no names


Wrong. The streets here do have names.


Seconded, streets do have names. I've had a co-teacher tell me this and I saw it on her GPS.

I heard this was a relatively new thing though.

Although, I heard that most people don't care or bother with street names, they use landmarks like go to gangnam "the Towers" etc. Just because it's a relatively new thing and that landmarks are pretty easy to find.
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Pojogae



Joined: 30 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor old Michael Lambing. I bet this is going to go on all day.

"If I could turn back time. If I could find a way..."
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"In most of the world, addresses are written in order from most specific to general information, starting with the addressee and ending with the largest geographical unit."

"In many cities in Asia, most minor streets were never named. This is still the case today in much of Japan. When postal systems were introduced, it became necessary to number buildings to aid in mail delivery."
Source:
Address Format, Address
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mailing_address_format_by_country#Address_format

Korea Post
http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/service/service03_01.jsp

The address on the ePost (Korea Post) website is written this way:
197, Jayangno, Gwangjin-gu, Seoul 143-766 Korea

http://www.epost.go.kr/eng/Enpost_Introduction1.html

Right location for postal codes
http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/service/service03_06.jsp

This image shows the location of address and the "right location for postal codes."
http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/eimg/service/envelope01.gif

Postal addressing systems
http://www.upu.int/post_code/en/postal_addressing_systems_member_countries.shtml

Republic of Korea, Postcode Type and Position (PDF Download)
http://www.upu.int/post_code/en/countries/KOR.pdf

International Bureau of the UPU
Programme Manager "Parcels and Logistics"
Case postale
3000 BERNE15
SWITZERLAND
Source:
Universal Postal Union
http://www.upu.int/parcel_post/en/contacts.html
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
"In most of the world, addresses are written in order from most specific to general information, starting with the addressee and ending with the largest geographical unit."


You conveniently left out the part where wiki says:

"East Asian addressing systems, including Chinese, Japanese and Korean addressing systems, when written in their native scripts, use the opposite ordering, starting with the province/prefecture, ending with the addressee."

Edit:

Hmmm. . . the part real reality is quoting from is wrong on wikipedia. Check the references and there is no mention of what style is most common in the world. Is someone selectively editing wiki to suit their argument?
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdninkorea wrote:
I have to agree with others and say it's absurd to say Korea is doing this wrong- why not say British people drive on the "wrong" side of the road? Or that Arabic is written in the wrong direction? Things like these are completely amoral.


They do drive on the wrong side of the road. Laughing
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excitinghead



Joined: 18 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robot_Teacher wrote:
I would say it's OK to do it either way just the same as some countries drive on the left and others the rigth with both achieving the same thing. As with sequential ordering, no one way is right or wrong unless inconsistencies occur in one single system. I might say, "I'm going to Seoul," while a Korean says, "Seoul, I go." Both work as I understand almost any way of speaking English unlike where Hangulmal has to be perfect or you'll cause minor offense and confuse the locals.


Sorry, but I didn't understand that last sentence.

Actually, in Korean it's "I Seoul to go" (나는 서울에 가요). And Korean having to be perfect to get native Koreans to understand you is because most Koreans are completely unused to Korean spoken with foreign accents, not because of the Korean language itself or politeness or anything. Not that that doesn't make communicating and learning frustrating, but it's understandable.


Korean Sociology Through Gender, Advertising and Popular Culture:

http://thegrandnarrative.wordpress.com/
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka,

The address on the ePost (Korea Post) website is written this way:
197, Jayangno, Gwangjin-gu, Seoul 143-766 Korea
http://www.epost.go.kr/eng/Enpost_Introduction1.html

Look at this webpage:
Right location for postal codes
http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/service/service03_06.jsp

Postal addressing systems
http://www.upu.int/post_code/en/postal_addressing_systems_member_countries.shtml

Republic of Korea, Postcode Type and Position (PDF Download)
http://www.upu.int/post_code/en/countries/KOR.pdf
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mayorgc wrote:
I gave my address to family over seas but i gave them the address with my apt name first and i did it the north american wayy. will my mail get to me?

It should, I've been sending Zippy packages the NA way all year now at three different addresses and he's received them all. 10-14 days usually. Their packages to me get here within a week usually.

The address the recruiter gave us to send his docs last year was written the NA way, and his K-gf's address (which she writes) is written the NA way. So either way should work fine, the drones are hip.
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retrogress



Joined: 07 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Korean and a Japanese are sitting at a bar.
A Chinese comes in and says, "Hey! What's with these Yanks and their address system!"

That's it. Jokes over.
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polonius



Joined: 05 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me, it makes sense to go from the larger and then move down to more specific. If we look at it in an order sense, we see first the letter needs to go to Seoul, then it goes to ______-gu, then _____-dong, the ____ apt, and finally ____#of apt.

And Michael, tell me why is it that things are always done better in
Quote:
any developed advanced country?


Do you think that everyone should have the right to carry a gun?
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asylum seeker



Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Location: On your computer screen.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it wasn't for the fact that other posters have claimed to have met him in real life I would assume that michaelambling was a troll invented by some anti-foreigner Korean group to make us look stupid.
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asylum seeker wrote:
If it wasn't for the fact that other posters have claimed to have met him in real life I would assume that michaelambling was a troll invented by some anti-foreigner Korean group to make us look stupid.


What I find funny is that every single person that has met him said bad things about him. I wonder how much of a donkey's posterior you have to be in order to make such bad impressions on people. Razz
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hasn't anyone figured out yet that he was joking around?

You guys are way too touchy.
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michaelambling



Joined: 31 Dec 2008
Location: Paradise

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
Hasn't anyone figured out yet that he was joking around?

You guys are way too touchy.


Wow. Just...wow.
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