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The New Epik Payscale
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sheeon



Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:02 pm    Post subject: The New Epik Payscale Reply with quote

Did anybody check out the new contract for Aug/Sept 2009 EPIK? For the past few years I was on 1+ level, however they've decided to lump us together with the level 1 teachers...
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E_athlete



Joined: 09 Jun 2009
Location: Korea sparkling

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.1 mil for a newb like me is going to be nice.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you talking about?

The EPIK 'Renumeration' page on the website still shows a Level 1+, and I just renewed my contract for Sept. 1 at Level 1+.
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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, where is this information?
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sheeon



Joined: 11 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm, I may be wrong, but based on the contract I just received, the level 1+ doesn't seem to exist any more. My co-teacher says it could be an error, and I bloody hope it's an error, but the supervisor in charge at the provincial office wasn't there to confirm this.
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sheeon



Joined: 11 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cruisemonkey, did you actually complete the signing of your contract, cos I only got this info today, and I wasn't impressed at all. (well, if you're newby then 2.1 does sound much better.

This is the payscale for 2009 September

1 level/ 2,500,000 Korean Won per month
2+level/ 2,300,000 Korean Won per month
2 level/ 2,200,000 Korean Won per month
3 level/ 2,100,000 Korean Won per month


Were you positively signed as a 1+ instructor for the September?

I think this version of the contract may only be a draft, since the signings will take place at a later date, but I'm wouldn't be surprised if the payscale is genuine, since they're dead keen cutting costs.
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Otherside



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sheeon wrote:
Cruisemonkey, did you actually complete the signing of your contract, cos I only got this info today, and I wasn't impressed at all. (well, if you're newby then 2.1 does sound much better.

This is the payscale for 2009 September

1 level/ 2,500,000 Korean Won per month
2+level/ 2,300,000 Korean Won per month
2 level/ 2,200,000 Korean Won per month
3 level/ 2,100,000 Korean Won per month


Were you positively signed as a 1+ instructor for the September?

I think this version of the contract may only be a draft, since the signings will take place at a later date, but I'm wouldn't be surprised if the payscale is genuine, since they're dead keen cutting costs.


This scale is a joke.
On the one hand, Koreans complain that teachers aren't qualified etc, yet on the other hand they do everything they can to keep the qualified/experienced out. The bottom of the scale has moved up marginally (doesn't even come close to keeping up with inflation/exchange rate issues) and the top of the scale has remained static, and been capped even lower.

That's right kids, the guy with a B.Ed, MA Tesol, 10 years experience with 3 of them at the same school (proving ability and loyalty) is worth 400K a month more than the fresh out Uni guy with a BA in an unrelated faculty.
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Kurtz



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^

That's true. The EPIK pay scale doesn't encourage one to study hard and try and be somewhat of a real ESL teacher, but getting a sweet after school gig is a great way to pump up your income.
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E_athlete



Joined: 09 Jun 2009
Location: Korea sparkling

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Otherside wrote:
sheeon wrote:
Cruisemonkey, did you actually complete the signing of your contract, cos I only got this info today, and I wasn't impressed at all. (well, if you're newby then 2.1 does sound much better.

This is the payscale for 2009 September

1 level/ 2,500,000 Korean Won per month
2+level/ 2,300,000 Korean Won per month
2 level/ 2,200,000 Korean Won per month
3 level/ 2,100,000 Korean Won per month


Were you positively signed as a 1+ instructor for the September?

I think this version of the contract may only be a draft, since the signings will take place at a later date, but I'm wouldn't be surprised if the payscale is genuine, since they're dead keen cutting costs.


This scale is a joke.
On the one hand, Koreans complain that teachers aren't qualified etc, yet on the other hand they do everything they can to keep the qualified/experienced out. The bottom of the scale has moved up marginally (doesn't even come close to keeping up with inflation/exchange rate issues) and the top of the scale has remained static, and been capped even lower.

That's right kids, the guy with a B.Ed, MA Tesol, 10 years experience with 3 of them at the same school (proving ability and loyalty) is worth 400K a month more than the fresh out Uni guy with a BA in an unrelated faculty.


Mine was a B.Sc in Biology.
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sheeon



Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason why they had 1+ level was to retain loyal and experienced teachers in Korea for multiple years. ( I remember 2 or 3 years ago, not many people were renewing at public schools and they really needed some sort of incentives to keep the teachers from going elsewhere).

I guess now, with the so many jobless people out there, literally hundreds of foreigners waiting to fill our places.

When I last checked the EPIK site, there were only 20 places being offered, these were all filled. (Actually, all the public school vacancies were filled except for those in Gyeonggi and Seoul, which was unheard of)

So, I guess it's put up or shut up for us long haulers.
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E_athlete



Joined: 09 Jun 2009
Location: Korea sparkling

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps it may be out of my place to say this but if I was living in Korea for more than 3 yrs I would give serious thought to getting a permanent residence and a hagwon. I'd probably get a partner if the start up costs were too high. You can't seriously expect to become rich with even the highest tier salary. Have a goal in mind and walk toward it.
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espoir



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Incheon, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sheeon wrote:
Cruisemonkey, did you actually complete the signing of your contract, cos I only got this info today, and I wasn't impressed at all. (well, if you're newby then 2.1 does sound much better.

This is the payscale for 2009 September

1 level/ 2,500,000 Korean Won per month
2+level/ 2,300,000 Korean Won per month
2 level/ 2,200,000 Korean Won per month
3 level/ 2,100,000 Korean Won per month


Were you positively signed as a 1+ instructor for the September?

I think this version of the contract may only be a draft, since the signings will take place at a later date, but I'm wouldn't be surprised if the payscale is genuine, since they're dead keen cutting costs.


WTF level 3 is 2,100,000won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just got my contract yesturday and as a level 2+ I will only be getting 2,100,000!!
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blonde researcher



Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Location: Globalizing in Korea for the time being

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The original poster was correct the new contracts I saw issued by EPIK today have level 1+ at 2.5 as well, same as level 1
BUT
There is now a new line in number 13 that says the following:

"The Employer may provide a special allowance to an employee who has made a great contribution to the Employer and/or who is determined to work at a special institute by the Employer"

I wonder if longer term teachers are now going to have to prove performance somehow, to get a higher salary each year?

The starting salary scales for the provinces are still higher, at 2.1, than the popular cities like Busan which is still 1.8
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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blonde researcher wrote:
"The Employer may provide a special allowance to an employee who has made a great contribution to the Employer and/or who is determined to work at a special institute by the Employer"


Too little too late for me.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To everone who says they cut out Level 1+,

You do that know EPIK contracts vary by POE/MOE... right? It sounds like your province/city is screwing you. Where are you working?

I renewed as a Level 1+ (at 2.7 base). However, my employer is my school - not the POE anymore.
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