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jessicab7878
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:13 pm Post subject: Bringing Dog to Korea-Where to Live? |
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I am planning to move to Korea to teach in the fall and I had a few questions about where to live. I plan on bringing my medium (50 pound) dog with me. She is not a barker and she currently lives with me in a small apartment. I have read a few things about some people in Korea really disliking dogs, especially ones that are not tiny. I was wondering:
Are there any specific cities that may be more dog friendly than others?
Are there any specific neighborhoods/areas of Seoul that are more dog friendly than others?
Realistically, am I going to be getting hassled a lot because of the 50 pound dog (i.e.: constant dirty looks and comments, neighbors all hating me, etc).
Also, any other advice about this would be great!
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Cerriowen
Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Location: Pocheon
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:32 am Post subject: Re: Bringing Dog to Korea-Where to Live? |
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Are there any specific cities that may be more dog friendly than others? |
I don't think any "cities" are, but I've found it much easier to live in a more country-side environment with my two dogs. There's not many places in Seoul where you could let your dog run off-leash. Here I've got a lot of trails and mountains and rivers we can easily walk to. Also most people are more comfortable with dogs in the countryside than in the city.
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Are there any specific neighborhoods/areas of Seoul that are more dog friendly than others? |
In my experience, you have a hard time getting *any* dog on public transportation (except the really tiny ones they hide) so that rules out bus, taxi, and subway if you go anywhere w/ your dog. You won't have a car... so that will be a bit tricky getting around if you want to go to the park, etc. I'd suggest going to an area w/in walking distance of a big park (or tell your school you need that).
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Realistically, am I going to be getting hassled a lot because of the 50 pound dog (i.e.: constant dirty looks and comments, neighbors all hating me, etc). |
Not when you're walking a 50lb dog here More likely (in a city) people will cross the street, or give little mini-shreaks when they see the dog. At just under 20lbs, mine is considered practically monsterously big
I wouldn't say most people dislike dogs... I'd say they either love dogs, or are terrified of them... kind of a 50/50 split.
*BY THE WAY... I hope your dog is comfortable having kids run up to it, and random strangers start thumping it rather hard on the head to say "hi"... etc... Because koreans have no manners with animals. THey never ask to pet, and usually are much rougher than westerners.
You might get hastled by the land lord in a city for having such a large dog. I haven't had any problems out in the countryside. |
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licorice
Joined: 13 Mar 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:00 am Post subject: |
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I adopted two dogs in Seoul. One is 15lbs and the other is 22lbs.
Most people are really afraid of them even though they are better behaved than most of the small dogs I see here.
You sometimes get someone who seems interested but as soon as your dog pays attention to them, they freak out. Other times people will just feed them whatever food they have. I had one woman try to give my dogs a chocopie! I also had a crazy drunk ajosshi try to get his little dog to fight my dog. I can't ever have them off leash because the one parkette close by has halmonis that complain that the kids have to play in my dogs' mess even though I always pick up after my dogs and if they don't think there's human urine all over that park they're seriously deluding themselves.
Where do I live? On the west side of Seoul out towards Gimpo Airport. I would definitely not recommend living here with a large dog.
Public transportation is really rough. Your dog would definitely have to be in a kennel to go on the subway/bus and even getting a taxi in my area is difficult. I've had numerous taxi drivers zoom past me showing me a hand gesture that they don't take dogs.
I once took one of my dogs to Olympic Park on the east side of Seoul and there were tons of dogs there that weekend of all sizes, but again, no real off-leash area.
So, if you're set on Seoul, I would suggest the east side over the west side or somewhere close to a mountain. |
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ducati
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:09 am Post subject: Re: Bringing Dog to Korea-Where to Live? |
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Cerriowen wrote: |
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Are there any specific cities that may be more dog friendly than others? |
*BY THE WAY... I hope your dog is comfortable having kids run up to it, and random strangers start thumping it rather hard on the head to say "hi"... etc... Because koreans have no manners with animals. THey never ask to pet, and usually are much rougher than westerners. |
Koreans have no manners with animals? How's that? Just because their definition of mannerisms regarding dogs is different from yours doesn't mean that they don't have "manners." I'm sorry you may be offended by their actions but you live in a different country than you're used to. Get over it. |
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gangwonbound
Joined: 27 Apr 2009
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:18 am Post subject: |
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There is a great city for dogs...
If I remember correctly it is called Bo Shin Tang. |
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teachergirltoo
Joined: 28 Oct 2006
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: Bringing Dog to Korea-Where to Live? |
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ducati wrote: |
Cerriowen wrote: |
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Are there any specific cities that may be more dog friendly than others? |
*BY THE WAY... I hope your dog is comfortable having kids run up to it, and random strangers start thumping it rather hard on the head to say "hi"... etc... Because koreans have no manners with animals. THey never ask to pet, and usually are much rougher than westerners. |
Koreans have no manners with animals? How's that? Just because their definition of mannerisms regarding dogs is different from yours doesn't mean that they don't have "manners." I'm sorry you may be offended by their actions but you live in a different country than you're used to. Get over it. |
Cerriowen is right. Be guarded with your pet when out, as many Koreans are not as gentle or cautious as they should be when approaching dogs. I have had many odd instances, such as having someone dangle their child over my dog's head like it is a piece of chicken for him to lick, or often in the park have someone push their child toward my dogs. Just be alert for the protection of your pet. |
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eperdue4ad

Joined: 22 May 2006
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: Bringing Dog to Korea-Where to Live? |
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ducati wrote: |
Koreans have no manners with animals? How's that? Just because their definition of mannerisms regarding dogs is different from yours doesn't mean that they don't have "manners." I'm sorry you may be offended by their actions but you live in a different country than you're used to. Get over it. |
If OP's dog is easily startled or snappish he deserves to know how some kids here react to dogs before making a decision to bring it. For safety of the kids as well as the dog.
One of the first Korean sentences I learned was a warning (not a threat) to kids' parents when they allowed their kids to run up to my dog and bonk it on the head. Careful, the dog will bite. I don't want the kid to get bitten and the city to then come after my dog.
And no, some of the kids are not taught manners regarding how to treat animals. More than once young boys have run up to my dog stomping their feet and barking. In full view of the parents, who can obviously see that the dog is started and distressed at unpredictable, aggressive behavior, In all my years owning dogs, and walking them in the city, this NEVER happened before Korea. The parents generally do nothing, because admonishing children will take away their "boldness." |
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Cerriowen
Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Location: Pocheon
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:54 am Post subject: |
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I'm not trying to say that they have bad manners or good manners as a people... Simply they have no concept of "dog" psychology... and "dog" manners. They just have NO idea what will be offensive or threatening to a dog, on a primal level. (from any culture, andy country)
You don't walk up to a strange dog and immediately tower over it and thump it on the head while shouting "AYEEE!!! YIIIPO~" But since most of them have never encountered a dog that HASN'T been beaten in to submission of any human OR that will snarl and try to attack anyone near it... they don't know how a normal dog will behave. (minor warning btw... they've got some damn vicious/fearful toy-sized dogs here)
If a dog doesn't immediately snarl at them, they assume it will accept any pushing/thumping/poking... or even hitting or kicking... without a fuss. People who even really like dogs, and own dogs, won't think twice about pretending to cuff your dog for failing to obey one of their commans (in korean).
Just be aware that you'll need to step up and protect your dog here in a way that isn't common in the USA... even from people who admire your dogs.
Useful phrase to learn... (no, it's not perfect grammatically, but people will understand what you mean).
Gang-Ah-Gee, Shee-roh-hey-yo, Ha-Gee-Mah-Say-Yo
(the dog doesn't like it, stop please!) |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:59 am Post subject: |
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Live in a rural town not far from a city.
Or go to Jindo (an island with a bridge to the mainland, could bus it to big city Gwangju on some weekends).
I have seen PLENTY of dogs wandering happily in small towns. I have lived in a town of 50,000 (really is a 'small town' in this country) and thought it ideal for having a dog.
But a 50-lbs dog in a Korean city?  |
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D-Man

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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:26 am Post subject: |
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My advice is for you to leave your dog at home.Why give your pet stress by lugging it across the world and trying to set it up in a completely new environment.Leave it with friends or family and stop being selfish.  |
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ducati
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Cerriowen wrote: |
I'm not trying to say that they have bad manners or good manners as a people... Simply they have no concept of "dog" psychology... and "dog" manners. They just have NO idea what will be offensive or threatening to a dog, on a primal level. (from any culture, andy country) |
I'm glad that you've included every Korean in Korea. Are other dog owners included? Such generalizations is what I love about this forum. If every single Korean was like this, I should see every dog in the park being accosted. I have never personally seen any dog, how small or large, being accosted in the manner in which you've described. And I've seen hundreds. Of course, it doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. But if you're making such sweeping generalizations, then I should be seeing it all the time. |
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jessicab7878
Joined: 09 Jun 2009
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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D-Man wrote: |
My advice is for you to leave your dog at home.Why give your pet stress by lugging it across the world and trying to set it up in a completely new environment.Leave it with friends or family and stop being selfish.  |
Thank you for the animated eye roll and reference to being selfish. The dog was abandoned as a puppy and has been with me since she was four weeks old. She is very attached to me as a result, so leaving her with other people may be considered "selfish" as well. Also, I do not know anybody that is able to care for my dog for an entire year. I am just trying to do research so that ultimately I can make the best decision for me and my dog. I am just starting this research, so I don't really know much about Korea or the culture there yet. I am just trying to learn.
Thanks for your input, everyone else. It has been quite helpful and I appreciate it allot! |
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mlh
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:28 pm Post subject: smaller town is best |
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I adopted a jindo mix while I've been living in Korea. He's about 6 years old and weighs probably around 45-50lbs. He's very active and I think living in a larger town would be difficult.
I live in Gangjin which is a smaller town (some people have told me its about 10,000 others have said 40,000 so its somewhere in between) and practically right across the street is a hiking trail that goes up a mountain which has been great for our morning walks and there is a foot path nearby on another mountain that has been great for our afternoon runs.
The big thing is transport. If I were going to be here longer I would probably buy a car because of my dog but I'm leaving in November so there's no point really, but with a dog that large you wont be able to take it on the buses (although you can take him on the ktx as long as he's in his kennel) and be prepared to have some difficulty finding taxi drivers willing to take you if necessary and if they do they'll usually want extra money to clean the dog hair.
You will probably also have a hard time boarding him if you ever want to go on vacation. Even if you do find a vet that will board your pet that might mean basically they just sit in a cage all day everyday while at the kennel (although I do believe there are some nice kennels in Seoul).
A good resource is the website animalrescuekorea.org which has a lot of information for foreign pet owners in korea.
Korea is not the most pet friendly place and the with a larger dog you will encounter problems. I agree with other posters about a lack of caution or 'manners' when it comes to dog handling. My dog was previously abused and is snappish around strangers and I have had several people just walk up and try to pet him without asking. Small children will also sometime try to run towards us to pet my dog and the parents wont stop them but I'll have to, so you will definitely need to be on guard when outside.
Also I think my dogs size scares people. Many people are fearful which is why we only walk the mountain paths because their are less people and less chance of problems. When we first started our morning and afternoon walks I had a lot of people yell at me and try and tell me we weren't allowed on the trails but I just turned up the volume of my mp3 and ignored them. Now that we're regulars and they've learned that my dog will ignore them if they ignore him I almost never have problems and we've even made a couple of friends.
Sorry I know this post is getting long but one other caution. You should be careful of dog theft. If you've had your dog since she was 4 weeks old she's probably really reliable on the recall so maybe walking off leash is ok in certain areas. My dog is not reliable and so I never let him off the lead, but several of my Korean friends have warned me about dog theft and I should never leave him unattended when outside (like leave him hooked to something for a minute to run into a store). Apparently the coloring and size of my dog make him appear particularly tasty and Koreans (so this is not me just making assumptions) have warned that people in my area steal dogs and sell them for their meat.
I hope this is helpful and feel free to pm with any other questions you have about owning a larger dog in Korea. Also animal rescue korea will give you tons of info. |
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Intrepid
Joined: 13 May 2004 Location: Yongin
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:31 pm Post subject: Bundang |
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Move to Bundang--many wide walking paths, many mountains nearby, but mts that are not part of any national park, and so dogs are welcome. Also quite a few cheap vets. I don't know if it's been mentioned but one nice thing here is that you can just drop in at the vet's any time you have a problem. No appointment, no minimum fee, if the vet thinks the sudden onset of watery eyes, say, are nothing to worry about then there's no charge, etc. |
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nottina
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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My dog is 45 pounds and we live in Dongducheon.
The flight over was stressful - for both of us. I was changing flights in NYC and was pulled off the airplane because the airline had lost my dog! Five hours later they managed to find her and we were finally on our way to Korea.
Most of my neighbors are terrified of the dog. They cross they street, give me dirty looks, yell at me when she pees. Parks and large open spaces for her to run are few and far between. She doesn't have any doggie friends to play with. Taking her to the vet was almost impossible. Her crate is large and hard to carry on the subway, and we couldn't get taxis. We ended up buying a car, which made things easier. Oh, and she's allergic to yellow dust.
Finding quality dog food has been a challenge. We gave up and buy her food online.
Honestly, I regret bringing her to Korea. |
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