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tbigdog69
Joined: 08 May 2007
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:59 am Post subject: E-2 visa holder on 2nd offense working privates |
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I'm living in Seoul and am told that I must report to Busan police dept due to them getting a recruiters info on over 100 other foreign teachers who had worked for them with bank account numbers showing money deposited. 1st offense was a 500,000 won fine only. Anyone know what penalty the 2nd one holds? The immigration web site is vague at best. Most of the 100 teachers are supposably living closer to Busan than Seoul is why the location for investigation is Busan??
Please reply with serious answers or recommendations. ONLY  |
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tenchu77491
Joined: 16 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:39 am Post subject: |
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What did you do? Why not be honest and tell the whole story and shed all information so people can really give advice.
Your 'story' and information is too vague for anyone to offer anything remotely helpful. |
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Tobias
Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:48 am Post subject: |
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Tell us how the recruiter got busted.
It's good to see recruiters keep their recruits' information private. Good to see that when a teacher leaves a job, his recruiter destroys all information on him/her. It's always reassuring to know the paper trail ends at my recruiter when the job is done and he no longer has any business keeping any of my obsolete information.
Your post has definitely made me feel all comfy inside knowing my privacy will be maintained.
Jesus. They even found out bank account numbers?
This is no surprise, though. I once had to get a copy of my passport made at a little rinky-dink mom and pop version of Kinkos in Seoul. The pop scanned the thing, saved it to his hard drive, and then transferred it to my USB thumb. I was on my way out the door when it hit me...I turned around and told his ass to wipe my copy off his hard drive, as he didn't need it on his drive. If I hadn't done that, it'd probably still be on there.
Coverage of the tail is the best policy when it comes to your private information in SK!
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:56 am Post subject: Re: E-2 visa holder on 2nd offense working privates |
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| tbigdog69 wrote: |
| Please reply with serious answers or recommendations. ONLY |
Here's a serious recommendation - stop doing illegal work... maybe you won't get busted a third time.  |
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tenchu77491
Joined: 16 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:57 am Post subject: |
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I think you need to answer 'why does your recruiter have your bank account information'?
The most my recruiter has ever had was my diploma or CRC and my transcripts... anything else would be too much.
and yea, if you were doing illegal work then sucks you got busted. Now face the law. GG |
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Tobias
Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:04 am Post subject: |
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One more thing I'll add...
I agree with a poster above and say your thread opener is a bit vague. I have to assume you used to be associated with this recruiter.
Be sure to send your him a Thank-You card. You need to thank him for his negligence. His screw-up just got you busted, and you're not even in the picture anymore. |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Vague or TROLL
So, this guy is doing privates, and they pay him to his bank account instead of cash in person? And, there is a way that money put in a bank account can be proven to be for private teaching? I think this is all a bunch of horse..... |
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Tobias
Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:40 am Post subject: |
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I think you're onto something, Chicken.
Korea is probably like anywhere else...The powers know about all the illegal activities but only bust those they choose to. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:16 am Post subject: |
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| Tobias wrote: |
| Korea is probably like anywhere else...The powers know about all the illegal activities but only bust those they choose to. |
 I love it when the  goes 'on'. K-land is just like the west... except the cost-benefit analysis is calculated from 'first person singular' perspective.
Keep your noses clean boys & girls.  |
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Straphanger
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:18 am Post subject: Re: E-2 visa holder on 2nd offense working privates |
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| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| tbigdog69 wrote: |
| Please reply with serious answers or recommendations. ONLY |
Here's a serious recommendation - stop doing illegal work... maybe you won't get busted a third time. |
Whoa! He speaks...and I say nothing. What of that?
Stop doing privates, E-2s! Luvva god. |
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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:32 am Post subject: |
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| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
Vague or TROLL
So, this guy is doing privates, and they pay him to his bank account instead of cash in person? And, there is a way that money put in a bank account can be proven to be for private teaching? I think this is all a bunch of horse..... |
Not necessarily. I know a few people who are foolish enough to be paid by direct deposit for the illegal kindy jobs they are doing.
I also know one guy who was busted by the police (not immigration) for teaching illegally. The hagwon owner made the problem go away, and this guy was merely warned, told to leave the country and come back legally on an E2. He's now back, on an E2, and working a bunch of extra jobs illegally and making a ton of cash.
The bottom line is this: there are no teeth to the immigration laws and it does not surprise me to see 500,000 as a fine for the first offense. Following the law is like walking by cash lying on the ground and not picking it up. Only the foolish don't have a second job.
For the record, my second job is legal. |
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Straphanger
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| bobbybigfoot wrote: |
| The bottom line is this: there are no teeth to the immigration laws and it does not surprise me to see 500,000 as a fine for the first offense. Following the law is like walking by cash lying on the ground and not picking it up. Only the foolish don't have a second job. |
Yes, and when you fill out that little questionnaire and it says "Have you ever been deported from a country for violating immigration or other laws?"
What do you say? No? Do you lie? |
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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Straphanger wrote: |
| bobbybigfoot wrote: |
| The bottom line is this: there are no teeth to the immigration laws and it does not surprise me to see 500,000 as a fine for the first offense. Following the law is like walking by cash lying on the ground and not picking it up. Only the foolish don't have a second job. |
Yes, and when you fill out that little questionnaire and it says "Have you ever been deported from a country for violating immigration or other laws?"
What do you say? No? Do you lie? |
Who's being deported? In two years in Korea, I have never heard of a single person who was deported. Occasionally, I've heard a rumor of a fine, but that's it. A rumor. Immigration does NOT actively try and find illegal workers. I'd say the odds of getting busted for illegal work is about 1 in a thousand, and if you do, you'll get a fine, probably no record. The odds of getting busted twice are likely 1 in a million.
Remember, even the guy busted by the police wasn't deported. He wasn't even fined. He was told don't do it again. He hasn't missed a beat and he's pulling in 6 million a month, and has been for over a year now.
Deported. Gimme a break. |
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Straphanger
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| bobbybigfoot wrote: |
| Deported. Gimme a break. |
And eventually, attitudes like yours will get someone's knickers in a twist over it, and they'll start actively looking, and actively deporting people. Two years in Korea, you say? And why is it that you had to submit a CRC last time you re-upped, but you didn't have to when you came here the first time?
Because one guy allegedly screwed up, and a lot of people got pissed.
One guy. That's all it takes.
Will it be you? |
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E_athlete
Joined: 09 Jun 2009
Location: Korea sparkling
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| if you get busted having a 2nd job you pay a fine. okay. But do you get fired from your first job as well? |
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