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A lot of hours first month?

 
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gbminnock



Joined: 10 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:45 am    Post subject: A lot of hours first month? Reply with quote

Hi I have been offered a job in Seoul South Korea. My normal working hours are from 1-10 everyday. However now I have been told that for the first month in August I have to do intensive courses, so possible I could be starting work at 9 and not finishing until 11 that night.
Im a little worried about this as I could be working 14 hours a day which is a little much for me as I haven't taught before.

Is this normal and can I refuse to do it? The overtime pay is 15,000 won, so its not that much.

If I hold out for another job will I also end up doing the intensive hours there anyway.

Thanks,
Gary
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gregtheman100



Joined: 20 Apr 2009
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some friends with schedules like that and they say it absolutely sucks.

It sounds like you are worried about your work schedule. I suggest working at a Public School Way more vacation and you are guaranteed only 40 hours a week.

I don't mind putting in a hard day of work, but that schedule sounds like it will make you burn out.
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Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most hogwans will have intensive classes in August and also in January. That's because the kids are on vacation from their regular school, so their parents send them to extra classes at hogwans to make good use of their time off.

Technically, they can't force you to work overtime according to Korean labour laws. In reality, they rarely give you a choice though and you will be looked down on as a troublesome employee if you refuse.

If they expect you to work from 9 to 11, that's a lot more hours than most hogwans will expect you to work during intensives. The most I ever worked during an intensive session was 9 to 9, but it was only for Tuesdays and Thursdays...it was more like 9 to 7 the other days of the week.

Tell them if they want you to work long hours like that then they're going to have to give you a higher overtime rate. It's not worth burning yourself out for 15,000 Won an hour. Believe me, they'll be raking in the cash on your back!

If I were you I would keep looking.
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billietea



Joined: 03 May 2009
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Mac wrote:


If I were you I would keep looking.

+1
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TwoFold



Joined: 31 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that definitely sounds like a bad gig. 15,000 won per hour OT is terrible imo.

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...possible I could be starting work at 9 and not finishing until 11 that night.


You can pretty much bank on it being 9 to 11 then. Sorry to say, if you end up taking the job, you deserve what you get.
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ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TwoFold wrote:
Yeah, that definitely sounds like a bad gig. 15,000 won per hour OT is terrible imo.


That's the lowest I've ever heard.. they're bending you over but then will say "you can save a lot of money" to make it sound enticing
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

billietea wrote:
Big Mac wrote:


If I were you I would keep looking.

+1

A+ for being succinct.
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gbminnock



Joined: 10 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:25 am    Post subject: still dunno what to do? Reply with quote

Still dunno what to do. Sad
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tenchu77491



Joined: 16 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put it this way,

I work 12pm to 5pm, and I do classes from 1pm to 5pm and 2pm to 5pm. I get paid 2.2 million won per month.

Now think about your job. Is it worth it?
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they find that you'll put up with that crap for one month, there is nothing to stop them from giving you that schedule the next month, the month after that, and the whole damn year. My first hogwon had me working from 10am-9pm "just for this month" my second month. That schedule didn't stop until I threatened to quit 6 months later.

Don't do it, OP. It's not worth it.
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neil537



Joined: 15 Jan 2009
Location: Incheon, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even your standard hours (1-10) are too much in my opinion. I work at a hagwon and my longest day is 2-9, with a couple of days 3:30-8:30


Walk away from this one........
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No_hite_pls



Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would never take this position.

There is so much better out there even for a new teacher.
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