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kirsi



Joined: 29 May 2009
Location: dongtan

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject: sending original diploma?? Reply with quote

most applications i have been looking at say that i have to send them my original diploma. did a search about this but the most recent results are from a couple years ago. do i really have to send my original diploma? how am i supposed to apply for more than one job at a time?

thanks in advance.
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E_athlete



Joined: 09 Jun 2009
Location: Korea sparkling

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think they are trying to basically keep your diploma hostage. I'd rather send a copy but if it's a good public school job (not a hagwon) i guess i don't mind giving them my original one. Remember, you can call your university and tell them you lost your diploma and they will issue you another one. So if you choose to leave when they are being exploitative.
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kirsi



Joined: 29 May 2009
Location: dongtan

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they all say that they will be returned when i arrive in korea, but 1) i am uncomfortable sending my diploma to anyone and 2) how will i know that the place i send my diploma to will hire me? maybe they will only require it after they decide to hire me. but then... i guess they wouldnt have sufficient proof that i graduated.

i wonder if a certified copy would be okay.
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take your diploma to a North Carolina* Notary Public, have it (color) copied, stamped and signed by the notary. Then take/send it to the NC Sec. of State in Raleigh for an apostille. That should satisfy anyone asking for an 'original' degree.
http://www.secretary.state.nc.us/authen/aposinfo.aspx

http://www.secretary.state.nc.us/authen/
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Mailing Address for US Postal Service Mail:
Authentication Office
NC Secretary of State
PO Box 29622
Raleigh NC 27626-0622

Street Address for Independent Carrier Mail:
Authentication Office
NC Secretary of State
2 South Salisbury St
Raleigh NC 27601-2903

Telephone: 919-807-2140
E-mail: [email protected]

Click here for: Customer guideline for authentications

After you have it apostilled, scan it into your computer, and make another hard copy to keep in your personal records. Do this with all your important documents so you'll have them for future reference.


*Documents must be notarized in the same state they are being apostilled in. This goes for your CBC too.


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JJJ



Joined: 27 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They might want/need an original copy of transcripts but never, ever send an original diploma. If you have spent any time here you would know that already and many of the problems teachers have had. Scan it, keep it on file and attach it to your mail. Never had a problem.
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seoulout



Joined: 16 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't send the original!! i made that mistake and my shitty hagwon withheld it for around a month, and when i finally got it back it was in a damaged state. i think you can get a copy apostilled by the Korean embassy/consulate and send that
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kirsi



Joined: 29 May 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you for all your help! really appreciate it.

seoulout - would i have to go to the consulate? i think since i am technically an ohio resident/graduated from OSU i'd have to go to the consulate in chicago. and that would suck.
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ama



Joined: 27 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm new to the visa process, this topic always worried me.

Who needs to see your diploma for the visa process? The Korean Consulate? The School? Or Both?
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My university doesn't really issue duplicate diplomas because, as they say, your diploma is a piece of paper and is not an official record of you having been conferred one. Your *transcript* is the official record. I made a B/W photocopy, got it notarized, and sent that. Sailed right through.
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have an address in NC, use that. Then you can go to Atlanta for your visa. You can use the mail if you get hired by a public school and receive a notice of appointment. Hagwon teachers get a visa issuance number and have to interview in person--and yes, they like to see your diploma/degree.

These guys here can help you more if they know what kind of job you're applying for... private (hagwon), or public (PS). For hagwons, you can apply to as many, use as many recruiters you want. For PS jobs, only one application, by yourself or thru a recruiter, is accepted. More and they shitcan them... or so they say.


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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kirsi wrote:
thank you for all your help! really appreciate it.

seoulout - would i have to go to the consulate? i think since i am technically an ohio resident/graduated from OSU i'd have to go to the consulate in chicago. and that would suck.


I am in Cleveland and just sent my things in last Monday. I am lucky to have a Sec of State office in Cleveland so didn't need to go to Columbus. Everyone I interacted with knew what to do when I told them it was for teaching in Korea. Just make sure you tell that to the person when you get your criminal background check because the for is more official looking.
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Chambertin



Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: Gunsan

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apostille can be done from a number of places.
Copied from my post from a different thread.

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No the stamp and apostille are quite different. The notary stamp is required to get the apostille.
You can take them to the Consulate, or you can get an apostille from one of the agencies listed on this page:

US Apostille details
The agencies allowed to perform an apostille in the US are in section III, middle of the page with their individual websites, if applicable.

Apostille is a process that was agreed upon by a number of countries for legalizing documents for use internationally. It is essentially the international version of a notary stamp. Some States place stickers, some have stamps, but all should attach a certification doccument to the copy of the original.

For those not from the US:
List of member nations

Once the apostille is attached it is just as good as the original.
If you are curious about the details of the conference this is the top page.
Official website for the Hague Conference

I also recommend that when you go to the embassy, consulate in your home country to physically get the visa take all the originals with you when you go, and make sure to bring them with you once you leave.

As stated most recruiters want the original in their hands as it makes it very difficult to change recruiters.
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Once the apostille is attached it is just as good as the original.

If you study some different recruiting websites, many explain the process quite clearly. Some differ in some ways, but basically what's happening is they are taking your application documents to Korean Immigration to sponsor your visa. That could take a 3 days, a week, two weeks? Depends on how fast they want you there.

Then they'll send you a visa issuance number, you take that to a Korean consulate that services your state... Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Guam, Honolulu, Houston, Los Angeles, New York City, San Francisco, and Seattle.

Call ahead to that consulate and ask them what you'll need to bring with you. Usually you can download the application form online and have it filled out ready to go.
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