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A guide on writing a good CV?

 
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Darkray16



Joined: 09 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:29 pm    Post subject: A guide on writing a good CV? Reply with quote

Hello,

I'm trying to find a good guide on writing a CV(Curriculum Vitae). I know there are some guides online but they all seem to write the CV in a different format. I've only ever written a resume which are all relatively similar in format. Can someone give me some advice on writing one?

Oh if it makes a difference in writing my CV, I am a newly graduated worker with only 6 months of experience. But I have a lot of tutoring experience for the last few years.
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thegadfly



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are newly graduated, with relatively little experience, why do you think you need a CV over a regular resume? Honest question.

As your experience in the field grows, there will come a point when you are no longer padding your resume out to two pages -- everything you have done, even in tiny font with minimalist descriptions and bullet points, will cover many more than two pages...at that point, you need a CV, which can be as long as need be, and can include everything you have actually done.

You could write your CV in the same manner that you write your resume -- that is, write out a detailed resume, and when it gets over 2 pages long, call it your CV, and make a shorter version and call it your resume.

That's not a guide, just wondering if you actually need one.
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Darkray16



Joined: 09 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thegadfly wrote:
If you are newly graduated, with relatively little experience, why do you think you need a CV over a regular resume? Honest question.

As your experience in the field grows, there will come a point when you are no longer padding your resume out to two pages -- everything you have done, even in tiny font with minimalist descriptions and bullet points, will cover many more than two pages...at that point, you need a CV, which can be as long as need be, and can include everything you have actually done.

You could write your CV in the same manner that you write your resume -- that is, write out a detailed resume, and when it gets over 2 pages long, call it your CV, and make a shorter version and call it your resume.

That's not a guide, just wondering if you actually need one.


Because the job I'm applying for is asking for a CV. It's a university job though they don't state experience is a minimum requirement, merely a preference.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, you're saying CV isn't just a fancy way to say resume? They are actually different things? Whoops. You learn something every day. Embarassed
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frankly speaking



Joined: 23 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you haven't published anything, there is no sense doing a CV. Just because a job asks for a CV doesn't mean that they really want a CV, they will often accept a resume.

Most people use the terms resume and CV interchangeably.

I have always done a resume even for higher level positions even when they requested a CV. No one ever seemed to make any judgment at the
interview. They even referred to it as a CV. So don't worry to much.

You probably already know this but in case: Make sure that when doing a resume that you include a cover letter that goes into depth what your resume is trying to highlight.

sample format

Start the cover letter:
1st paragraph: why are you writing, what job, etc. (1-2 sentences)
2nd paragraph: what you are doing currently and your qualifications for teaching. (list out any skill that they ask for, and include where your learned it)
3rd paragraph: discuss what you were doing before, either work or school. Since you don't have a lot of work experience, you should discuss about some classes or projects during your studies that relate to teaching. Or a particular class that you taught and maybe some success story that the students gained. "One highlight of my tutoring position allowed me to assist one Korean student gain admission into Harvard. I helped him improve his TOEFL score from 450-575 in the 3 months that we worked together."
4th paragraph: discuss your teaching philosophy, any related textbooks that you have found extremely useful in your teaching experience (be careful with this though, because they might not like the books that you like) Include, the methods and approaches to teaching that you find most effective.
End it with a

Now for the resume: since you don't have a lot of work experience lead with your education. Include any special honors, awards, seminars, even academic groups that you belonged to and GPA if above 3.0.

You could organize it as a skills resume, but I would suggest not to. I would instead bullet your work/school experiences that relate to teaching.

Curriculum development
subjects taught: writing, grammar, listening, speaking, science, etc.
Test prep subjects look good for most jobs. TOEFL. IELTS, SAT, etc.

Not to sound to much of a pessimist, but realistically you don't have much of a chance getting a University job. Usually they want minimum of a few years full time teaching with emphasis on adults or at least highschool and not young learners. The good universities want a masters in a related field. But good luck anyway. It never hurts to apply.
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Juregen



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I'm on the other side of the fence ....

Make your CV more interesting by adding something that makes you different from the masses.
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Darkray16



Joined: 09 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea the school sounds desperate for teachers. Looks like last minute hiring. And it's sorta low pay. 2mil won plus 350k housing for a pretty hefty schedule. But currently I'm trying to fill out my resume so this is a great opportunity for me and I understand it would come with a cost(shitty pay).

and thanks so much for all the advice. I truly appreciate it.

BTW, Frankly Speaking, what were you going to say I should finish with at the end of the 4th paragraph? It looks like you got cut off there.
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

unis and colleges ask for a cv;

the primary difference between a cv and resume is a cv would have a list of publications on it that the individual has authored, been credited, edited, produced, etc.

i.e., if one is in academia, one would be expected to publish etc. if one is just starting out, that probably hasn't happened yet - tho of course, one may have been listed on papers in grad school - even undergrad (I was).

it can have other stuff also, but that's the main difference
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busanliving



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends where in the World you are from, a resume is never used in the UK, always a C.V.
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pootle



Joined: 05 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject: A guide on writing a good CV? Reply with quote

I agree, 'CV' is more commonly used in the UK whilst North America (and countries that use American English) uses the term 'resume'. A CV is not necessarily longer - most employers in the UK will want a two page CV and a covering letter that gives more detail. Just depends where you are and what the norm is.

In terms of content, it varies depending on where you are, the type of institution you're applying to and the accepted norms. UK employers don't usually go for the personal aims/objectives/goals approach that you see on many North American CVs, they just want a summary of your educational background and work experience.

http://www.ukstudentlife.com/Work/CV.htm
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PRagic



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I find it funny that someone applying for a university teaching position has to go on a chat board to unearth the mystery that is the CV and how to put one together.

Somewhere deep down inside, wouldn't you feel at least a twinge of guilt taking the job even if it were to be offered to you?

Had to be said.
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cubanlord



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: A guide on writing a good CV? Reply with quote

Darkray16 wrote:
... but they all seem to write the CV in a different format.


Hi OP,

This is due to the fact that each CV is unique to its creator or of whom it is describing. A basic rule of thumb is to always place the most important headings first and to always list the most recent things first. If you want an idea of what a CV looks like, I can post mine up on my website and you can download it, or, you can just PM me with your email address I can forward you one. Like many have already said, you don't need a CV for most jobs. Further, you can't write a CV unless you have presentations, publications, etc. under your belt.
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DeLaRed



Joined: 16 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darkray16 wrote:
Yea the school sounds desperate for teachers. Looks like last minute hiring. And it's sorta low pay. 2mil won plus 350k housing for a pretty hefty schedule. But currently I'm trying to fill out my resume so this is a great opportunity for me and I understand it would come with a cost(shitty pay).
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sounds like that (sketchy?) Uni job discussed earlier......suddenly needing 7 professors. If that's the job you apply for and get , let us know how it works out.....
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Darkray16



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

which uni were you discussing? The one I'm applying for is in the northern part of Seoul.
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