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D-Man
Joined: 17 Jun 2008
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| bacasper wrote: |
I can't believe how many people here approve of an old lady being tased over a traffic stop.
What a sad state the world has come to!
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This old lady was very rude and disrespectful to an officer of the law.If she had complied and did as she was told,nothing would have happened to her.
In my few brushes with the law,I always did as I was told and no harm came to me.The guy was just doing his job.
The law is supposed to apply equally to all people.She simply deserved what happened to her.She is also obviously a liar, as her pity story to the media contradicted what was caught on tape..
Bad granny!!!! ZAP! |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
I can't believe how many people here approve of an old lady being tased over a traffic stop.
What a sad state the world has come to!
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Are you a teacher, Mr bacasper? I only ask, because your reading comprehension does not seem quite up to the standards we demand in polished professionals such as yourself.
She wasn't tased over a traffic stop, she was tased for resisting arrest. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
I can't believe how many people here approve of an old lady being tased over a traffic stop.
What a sad state the world has come to!
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Are you a teacher, Mr bacasper? I only ask, because your reading comprehension does not seem quite up to the standards we demand in polished professionals such as yourself.
She wasn't tased over a traffic stop, she was tased for resisting arrest. |
This is what I read:
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Kathryn Winkfein was pulled over for speeding while doing her weekly shopping in Austin, Texas.
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Mrs Winkfein was stopped by a police officer for speeding in her white pick-up truck. |
Don't worry. I don't suffer from the need to return in kind your insult about your reading comprehension skills and violate the ToS.
Arrest? Sure, for speeding! People should not even be getting arrested for speeding in the first place.
Maybe we should start tasing litterers next.  |
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D-Man
Joined: 17 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:02 am Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
I can't believe how many people here approve of an old lady being tased over a traffic stop.
What a sad state the world has come to!
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Are you a teacher, Mr bacasper? I only ask, because your reading comprehension does not seem quite up to the standards we demand in polished professionals such as yourself.
She wasn't tased over a traffic stop, she was tased for resisting arrest. |
This is what I read:
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Kathryn Winkfein was pulled over for speeding while doing her weekly shopping in Austin, Texas.
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Mrs Winkfein was stopped by a police officer for speeding in her white pick-up truck. |
Don't worry. I don't suffer from the need to return in kind your insult about your reading comprehension skills and violate the ToS.
Arrest? Sure, for speeding! People should not even be getting arrested for speeding in the first place.
Maybe we should start tasing litterers next. |
Are you serious? So we should let ppl do 200 km through city streets and danger the lives of people??
The old lady was tasered for being rude and disrespectful and not following orders. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| D-Man wrote: |
The old lady was tasered for being rude and disrespectful and not following orders. |
Oh, Yes!
Let's taser people for being rude and dissin'! Great idea!
I suppose now that pre-emptive war has become the norm, I should not be surprised that people have become so inured to the casual use of violence. |
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Komichi
Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Location: Piano Street, Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree the old lady was rude and presumably trying to use age to her advantage. However I also find it disturbing how we can so easily accustom ourselves to this casual use of violence. This was arguably done not in the spirit of protecting the American people, but rather more in line with organized crime and typical thugs. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
I can't believe how many people here approve of an old lady being tased over a traffic stop.
What a sad state the world has come to!
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Are you a teacher, Mr bacasper? I only ask, because your reading comprehension does not seem quite up to the standards we demand in polished professionals such as yourself.
She wasn't tased over a traffic stop, she was tased for resisting arrest. |
This is what I read:
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Kathryn Winkfein was pulled over for speeding while doing her weekly shopping in Austin, Texas.
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Mrs Winkfein was stopped by a police officer for speeding in her white pick-up truck. |
Don't worry. I don't suffer from the need to return in kind your insult about your reading comprehension skills and violate the ToS.
Arrest? Sure, for speeding! People should not even be getting arrested for speeding in the first place.
Maybe we should start tasing litterers next. |
Again, she was stopped for speeding
She was tased for resisting arrest.
She was not tased over the traffic stop. She was tased for her actions AFTER the traffic stop.
And if you feel that the term "polished professional" is an insult...then very well, I'll make sure never to apply that term to you again or to any of your actions. Happy? |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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For those of you who feel this was a case of unjust police behavior, I would be interested in hearing what sort of general rules you feel a police officer should follow regarding the application of non-lethal and non-damaging force (such as a taser) in situations where a citizen has broken the law, are refusing to comply with police commands, and their behavior is potentially endangering to the police officer in question (and yes, unfortunately, in a society where firearms and other weapons are readily availible, simple things like refusing to keep your hands out of your pockets or refusing to stand where a police officer asks you to can constitute a danger, even when the person in question is an old woman).
What should this police officer have done? |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
I can't believe how many people here approve of an old lady being tased over a traffic stop.
What a sad state the world has come to!
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Are you a teacher, Mr bacasper? I only ask, because your reading comprehension does not seem quite up to the standards we demand in polished professionals such as yourself.
She wasn't tased over a traffic stop, she was tased for resisting arrest. |
This is what I read:
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Kathryn Winkfein was pulled over for speeding while doing her weekly shopping in Austin, Texas.
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Mrs Winkfein was stopped by a police officer for speeding in her white pick-up truck. |
Don't worry. I don't suffer from the need to return in kind your insult about your reading comprehension skills and violate the ToS.
Arrest? Sure, for speeding! People should not even be getting arrested for speeding in the first place.
Maybe we should start tasing litterers next. |
Again, she was stopped for speeding
She was tased for resisting arrest.
She was not tased over the traffic stop. She was tased for her actions AFTER the traffic stop.
And if you feel that the term "polished professional" is an insult...then very well, I'll make sure never to apply that term to you again or to any of your actions. Happy? |
Funny, even BACasper's quotes show that she was stopped for speeding - yet he somehow read that she was arrested for it.
Yes, bacasper, you do need to work on your reading comprehension skills. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
I can't believe how many people here approve of an old lady being tased over a traffic stop.
What a sad state the world has come to!
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Are you a teacher, Mr bacasper? I only ask, because your reading comprehension does not seem quite up to the standards we demand in polished professionals such as yourself.
She wasn't tased over a traffic stop, she was tased for resisting arrest. |
This is what I read:
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Kathryn Winkfein was pulled over for speeding while doing her weekly shopping in Austin, Texas.
...
Mrs Winkfein was stopped by a police officer for speeding in her white pick-up truck. |
Don't worry. I don't suffer from the need to return in kind your insult about your reading comprehension skills and violate the ToS.
Arrest? Sure, for speeding! People should not even be getting arrested for speeding in the first place.
Maybe we should start tasing litterers next. |
Again, she was stopped for speeding
She was tased for resisting arrest.
She was not tased over the traffic stop. She was tased for her actions AFTER the traffic stop.
And if you feel that the term "polished professional" is an insult...then very well, I'll make sure never to apply that term to you again or to any of your actions. Happy? |
Funny, even BACasper's quotes show that she was stopped for speeding - yet he somehow read that she was arrested for it.
Yes, bacasper, you do need to work on your reading comprehension skills. |
OK, another member of the missing-the-point club!
OK, Mr. Astute, so then for what was she being arrested? |
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shifter2009
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: wisconsin
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
I can't believe how many people here approve of an old lady being tased over a traffic stop.
What a sad state the world has come to!
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Are you a teacher, Mr bacasper? I only ask, because your reading comprehension does not seem quite up to the standards we demand in polished professionals such as yourself.
She wasn't tased over a traffic stop, she was tased for resisting arrest. |
This is what I read:
| Quote: |
Kathryn Winkfein was pulled over for speeding while doing her weekly shopping in Austin, Texas.
...
Mrs Winkfein was stopped by a police officer for speeding in her white pick-up truck. |
Don't worry. I don't suffer from the need to return in kind your insult about your reading comprehension skills and violate the ToS.
Arrest? Sure, for speeding! People should not even be getting arrested for speeding in the first place.
Maybe we should start tasing litterers next. |
Again, she was stopped for speeding
She was tased for resisting arrest.
She was not tased over the traffic stop. She was tased for her actions AFTER the traffic stop.
And if you feel that the term "polished professional" is an insult...then very well, I'll make sure never to apply that term to you again or to any of your actions. Happy? |
Funny, even BACasper's quotes show that she was stopped for speeding - yet he somehow read that she was arrested for it.
Yes, bacasper, you do need to work on your reading comprehension skills. |
OK, another member of the missing-the-point club!
OK, Mr. Astute, so then for what was she being arrested? |
*face palm* jesus |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
I can't believe how many people here approve of an old lady being tased over a traffic stop.
What a sad state the world has come to!
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Are you a teacher, Mr bacasper? I only ask, because your reading comprehension does not seem quite up to the standards we demand in polished professionals such as yourself.
She wasn't tased over a traffic stop, she was tased for resisting arrest. |
This is what I read:
| Quote: |
Kathryn Winkfein was pulled over for speeding while doing her weekly shopping in Austin, Texas.
...
Mrs Winkfein was stopped by a police officer for speeding in her white pick-up truck. |
Don't worry. I don't suffer from the need to return in kind your insult about your reading comprehension skills and violate the ToS.
Arrest? Sure, for speeding! People should not even be getting arrested for speeding in the first place.
Maybe we should start tasing litterers next. |
Again, she was stopped for speeding
She was tased for resisting arrest.
She was not tased over the traffic stop. She was tased for her actions AFTER the traffic stop.
And if you feel that the term "polished professional" is an insult...then very well, I'll make sure never to apply that term to you again or to any of your actions. Happy? |
Funny, even BACasper's quotes show that she was stopped for speeding - yet he somehow read that she was arrested for it.
Yes, bacasper, you do need to work on your reading comprehension skills. |
OK, another member of the missing-the-point club!
OK, Mr. Astute, so then for what was she being arrested? |
Had you bothered to do any research on Google, you would have found that she was arrested for refusing to sign the traffic ticket and being combative towards the police officer. So she wasn't arrested for speeding. And she was given several warnings and choose to ignore/defy all of them.
http://homelandsecuritynewswire.com/single.php?id=8123
When you have talked yourself into a hole, the best advice is stop digging. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:17 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
Funny, even BACasper's quotes show that she was stopped for speeding - yet he somehow read that she was arrested for it.
Yes, bacasper, you do need to work on your reading comprehension skills. |
OK, another member of the missing-the-point club!
OK, Mr. Astute, so then for what was she being arrested? |
Had you bothered to do any research on Google, you would have found that she was arrested for refusing to sign the traffic ticket and being combative towards the police officer. So she wasn't arrested for speeding. And she was given several warnings and choose to ignore/defy all of them.
http://homelandsecuritynewswire.com/single.php?id=8123 |
And that traffic ticket was for what again?
Oh, yes, SPEEDING!
Talk all the circles around it you want to, but ultimately, and you can call it "indirectly" if you want but nevertheless, she was arrested for speeding. |
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PatrickBateman
Joined: 08 Jun 2009
Location: American Gardens Building, West 81st Street
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| Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:40 am Post subject: |
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| Don't tase me bro |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
Funny, even BACasper's quotes show that she was stopped for speeding - yet he somehow read that she was arrested for it.
Yes, bacasper, you do need to work on your reading comprehension skills. |
OK, another member of the missing-the-point club!
OK, Mr. Astute, so then for what was she being arrested? |
Had you bothered to do any research on Google, you would have found that she was arrested for refusing to sign the traffic ticket and being combative towards the police officer. So she wasn't arrested for speeding. And she was given several warnings and choose to ignore/defy all of them.
http://homelandsecuritynewswire.com/single.php?id=8123 |
And that traffic ticket was for what again?
Oh, yes, SPEEDING!
Talk all the circles around it you want to, but ultimately, and you can call it "indirectly" if you want but nevertheless, she was arrested for speeding. |
No. She was given a traffic ticket for speeding. To argue that she was "indirectly" or otherwise arrested for speeding would be arguing that giving someone a traffic ticket is arresting them.
She was given a traffic ticket and that would have been the end of it had she signed it. But not only did she refuse to sign it, she was combative with the officer, which led to her being tased and arrested. |
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