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http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/166362/reassessing_the_apple_tax.html

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[swigs]

Yeah engadgets good, I read gizmodo as well.

Not saying that article was the best, but Apple is not over priced.

Asus often steals IP and design straight from Apple.

I don't know how they have not been sued yet. And since windows does not fully support multi-touch pads, it comes off feeling weak and pointless. But their track pads are not comparable since the macbook pro features a large smooth piece of glass that is extremely responsive. I find Asus's track pads to feel cheap and finicky(unresponsive).

The only thing Asus can make is a netbook, any serious hardware besides your basics components is a joke.

The article is not great, but it does prove a point, although not fully.

It is impossible to build a laptop comparable to a macbook pro for a cheaper price. Where else can you get a aluminum cast body, with a glass multi touch track pad(Note that it is large and made of glass, not some cheap Asus wannabe pad), fully featured OS with out the need of defragging and anti-virus software, and high quality hardware? You can't. It's actually a really good deal considering. (Of course it's not for everyone though, but for most people it's more than ample)

As a tech appreciator, I love innovation, and I hate buying products from companies that steal ideas and IP to knock off a few bucks. Which that has been the Korean way, along with a lot of Taiwanese and Chinese companies. So I guess you can say I don't like things, companies, or people that take pride in stealing. Korean tech is just now starting to come into it's own with Samsung creating some good products from SSDs to HD monitors.

[Ukon]

[quote="swigs"]Where else can you get a aluminum cast body, with a glass multi touch track pad(Note that it is large and made of glass, not some cheap Asus wannabe pad), fully featured OS with out the need of defragging and anti-virus software, and high quality hardware[qoute]

Your gonna have to defrag your hard drive....it has nothing to do with the OS...it's like saying you never need to the change the oil on a toyota. Macs have less viruses, but there are viruses out there...It's not immune....

A computer is like a car....a collection of parts....Apple creates the case and the OS, everything else likely comes from another company...possibly the same parts suppliers for Asus laptops. Hell, it would be entirely impossible that some macs have Asus parts since Asus is a parts manufactuer. You can always order the custom made laptop from numerous companies that make them and choose higher quality parts.

As far as price and bang for your buck, macs suck unless your computer illiterate...Not to mention many programs don't have mac versions....

I'd save the extra 1k and get a Windows laptop and and then duaL boot it to the Apple OS if you want the best part of a Mac(the OS)....I'll find something better to spend 500k-1k than "real" glass and "multi-touch" track pad.

[swigs]

Please build a comparable price list of components for a mac by listing all the parts necessary to get an equivalent experience. Including shell, battery life/recycle capacity, touch pad, dimensions, and full functioning version of the OS (not some 32-bit home or office version, but the full thing). You would not be able to. Because many of the parts do not exist in the PC world, and the design is often a bad attempt to copy the MAC.

And with OS X the end user in almost all circumstances never ever has to Defragg, that is what mac users call 90's tech for the end user. I've never had to defragg my hard drive, and it's even over 95% full and running smooth.

I don't know the ratio of Mac to PC viruses, but it would be like comparing a monsoon to less than a light mist.

It's true that Mac's get their parts and manufacturing from Asian companies, but they often design the hardware and just use that company as an out put factory. But Mac's also have better QC than your typical low end computer company. Just check with consumer reports if you don't believe me.

I'm not trying to be a fan boy, I'm just trying to reveal a little of the other side that PC fan boys seem to misunderstand.

And I think you have it backwards, Vista was best known for only being able to run best on a Mac when it came out. Mac's are superior than any clone hardware manufacture that I know of.

[TimothyWilkinson]

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Did you read the article? Also, take me up on my challenge posted above if you think I'm wrong.

So many PC guys compare specs of just RAM not bothering to notice if they are DDR2 or DDR3, and other details such as that. If you add up the the quality of the hardware and the included software(with out ad or spy ware), you will be hard pressed to find a better deal or OS.

[agoodmouse]

When was the last mac virus?

[swigs]

There are a couple of bot viruses in pirated versions of certain software (iwork and CS4 I think) found in P2P networks. But your typical Mac user would not have a problem since most people don't pirate their software. Making the comparison is almost pointless, as one would almost have to try and find a virus to get it using a Mac.

[ekul]

[cangel]

Purchased through Amazon you can get Microsoft Office Home & Student 2007 for $79(USD). You can use the key on 3 computers so sell them to your trusted friends...

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Office-Home-Student-2007/dp/B000HCZ8EO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1245204189&sr=8-1

[swigs]

[ekul]

I'm not sure why you keep banging on about defragging, macs do need defragging, they just do it in the background. They only defrag files below 20mb, so if you are a heavy editor of music/film then you will need to defrag the larger files, especially if you have below 20% free space. You can get windows programs that do exactly the same, but it can take upto 6 months of background defragging to make a difference.

Also the OS having a small (tiny) market share is only a good thing to the current consumers of the product. Makes no odds to consumers in general.

They still are overpriced, making a custom dell laptop and comparing it to a stock mac is pointless. The more you customise a laptop the more expensive they become, it's just marketing.

[swigs]

It's just not defragging, but tons of other small and annoying windows operations that are either outdated or null with the Mac OS.

Of course it's going on in the background, why would the computer user want to worry about 'that time of the month' again with it's PC.

Here is an article I found with just a quick google search, over two years old though. It compares Vista with OS X (10.4) (OS X is now going on 10.6 with SL)

http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=196800670

This article is by no means the best, but offers some skin deep comparisons.

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