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A Chinese University or a Thai public school
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bundangbabo



Joined: 01 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:57 am    Post subject: A Chinese University or a Thai public school Reply with quote

Help me decide - I have no idea of what either choice would entail.

They both pay around the same, the pros of the Chinese university is less hours, nice apartment, teaching adults and I can pick where I want to live and work (I don't fancy Beijing or Shangai for now so I'm sure I'll get the city that I want) also the cheap cost of living and of course - Chinese food and women!

I never knew anything of being able to work in a Thai public school - it will be rural but I'm sure living in rural Thailand will trump living in rural Korea. Everyone I know who has been to Thailand loves it - so - can anyone furnish me with information about either job or place... thank you in advance! Very Happy
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You already decided, didn't you? I thought you were heading to Thailand.
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Sergio Stefanuto



Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinsese university for me. Nice choice to have.
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jgrant85



Joined: 31 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd go with a Chinese school... I think the food is better. Very Happy
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bundangbabo



Joined: 01 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
You already decided, didn't you? I thought you were heading to Thailand.


I have sent off my resume to the recruiter in charge but thats it. I haven't heard back off them - I'll decide on what they offer me - I'm not working anywhere for absolute pittance. We'll see..

Sergio/J Grant

A Chinese university does sound good though - the housing they offer is fantastic and I can somewhere as warm as Thailand right there in China...
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losing_touch



Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting a job in Thailand isn't easy to do when you aren't in the country. You really need to show up in Thailand and then look around. I have debated the same options you have, and I have decided to think about it over some cold beer on a tranquil island in southern Thailand when my contract is up. I will scout around for a bit and see what is available and make an informed choice at that time.

The job ads for China are easy enough to find. They aren't going anywhere. Personally, I really love Thailand, and it has been hard to be away from it for as long as I have now!
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just at a party where one of the women there said working at a Thai public school was the most horrible teaching experience she'd ever encountered... no aircon, very hot, students who could care less, administration with a "ho-hum" attitude about everything.

I'd snap-up the China job.
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bundangbabo



Joined: 01 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

losing_touch wrote:
Getting a job in Thailand isn't easy to do when you aren't in the country. You really need to show up in Thailand and then look around. I have debated the same options you have, and I have decided to think about it over some cold beer on a tranquil island in southern Thailand when my contract is up. I will scout around for a bit and see what is available and make an informed choice at that time.

The job ads for China are easy enough to find. They aren't going anywhere. Personally, I really love Thailand, and it has been hard to be away from it for as long as I have now!


I'd stay here to be fair but I have been stung by a crap reference (plus the amount of people who are now coming over - my school have put off getting my replacement until 'the near future - when the swine flu has gone away - could be October, November' but they are recieving a ton of applications for the first time and have shooed away two really good candidates - one a substitute teacher in the states - they think they are in a position to cherrypick and I suppose at this moment in time - they are in that position - I hope they enjoy it while it lasts!) I never knew about jobs in the public school system in Thailand but I wouldn't travel to Thailand just to get a job in a public school - always fancied China and now is the perfect time to get that uni job whilst my CV is being used for toilet paper in some recruiters office.
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bundangbabo



Joined: 01 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
I was just at a party where one of the women there said working at a Thai public school was the most horrible teaching experience she'd ever encountered... no aircon, very hot, students who could care less, administration with a "ho-hum" attitude about everything.

I'd snap-up the China job.


I haven't heard off them yet and the term has gone underway - so the liklehood of getting a job in a PS from overseas anyway is pretty slim whereas China - its there for the taking isn't it? 10-12 hours a week and a nice apartment - you can't argue with that really!
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alphakennyone



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: city heights

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you come across any Beijing/Shanghai univ positions, be sure to let me know, since you aren't interested...

I'm amazed at the salary range in China. Anywhere from 4000 (with housing) RMB to 18,000 without housing. Here's a funny one I just looked at

ALL applicants who apply for a teaching position in China through our organization benefit from the following:
You will be offered:
�A Special Gift;
�A Foreign Expert Certificate;
�A Round-way air ticket for a one-academic-year contract;
�A Free well-equipped apartment;
�RMB5,000-36,000 per month,depending on qualifications and teaching experience;
�Paid holiday and other allowances;
�You will work 12-22 academic hours per week;
�You also will be offered: a friendly and personal service, quick responses, helpful suggestions, tracking report on your application;

Look at that salary range. And a Special Gift?! What could it be. If it's anything like a Korean special gift, I imagine a gift set of tuna or spam.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much as I love Thailand - I visit 3 times a year, and also live there between contracts, and I plan to retire in Thailand, I would never, repeat never, teach in a Thai public school.

From teachers', and friends' accounts, I couldn't stand the stress of having up to 60 kids (who couldn't give a dam) in a classroom - and living in rural Thailand isn't anything like living on a southern beach in your holidays. I'd stay way - away. Also, don't Thai public schools only give return flights until after your second year is finished ???????
From friends accounts, Thai public schools aren't sanuk at all - they're a nightmare.

A Chinese uni. might not look flash on your CV, but I'm sure it's way better than PS in the Land of Smiles.
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bundangbabo



Joined: 01 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldfatfarang wrote:
Much as I love Thailand - I visit 3 times a year, and also live there between contracts, and I plan to retire in Thailand, I would never, repeat never, teach in a Thai public school.

From teachers', and friends' accounts, I couldn't stand the stress of having up to 60 kids (who couldn't give a dam) in a classroom - and living in rural Thailand isn't anything like living on a southern beach in your holidays. I'd stay way - away. Also, don't Thai public schools only give return flights until after your second year is finished ???????
From friends accounts, Thai public schools aren't sanuk at all - they're a nightmare.

A Chinese uni. might not look flash on your CV, but I'm sure it's way better than PS in the Land of Smiles.


Cheers fella - I thought it would be something akin to a PS here but it looks like the good advice is to stay away from Thai PS system - anyway much appreciated! Very Happy
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bundangbabo



Joined: 01 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alphakennyone wrote:
If you come across any Beijing/Shanghai univ positions, be sure to let me know, since you aren't interested...

I'm amazed at the salary range in China. Anywhere from 4000 (with housing) RMB to 18,000 without housing. Here's a funny one I just looked at

ALL applicants who apply for a teaching position in China through our organization benefit from the following:
You will be offered:
�A Special Gift;
�A Foreign Expert Certificate;
�A Round-way air ticket for a one-academic-year contract;
�A Free well-equipped apartment;
�RMB5,000-36,000 per month,depending on qualifications and teaching experience;
�Paid holiday and other allowances;
�You will work 12-22 academic hours per week;
�You also will be offered: a friendly and personal service, quick responses, helpful suggestions, tracking report on your application;

Look at that salary range. And a Special Gift?! What could it be. If it's anything like a Korean special gift, I imagine a gift set of tuna or spam.


There are quite a few on here mate - I have found this site to be pretty good to be fair...

http://www.anesl.com/schools/search.asp?type=any&province=Beijing&salary=any&keyword=&cmd=Search
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've talked to a lot of people who've taught in Thailand. Basically think Korean school without a budget. After that it mostly comes down to how much support you get from the Thai staff (plus your teaching skills, of course), but with no A/C, no computer, no TV monitor, and perhaps not even a photocopying budget, you're entering a much more difficult classroom setting at best.
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Gaber



Joined: 23 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work in a Thai public school in small town Isan, and while I agree with all the negitives, I've strongly concidered doing it again. I couldn't see my self staying longer than a semester at a time, but it is a great antidote to the balibali life in Seoul. Basically you have to take your cue from the locals and not give too much of a damn yourself (something I turn out to be rather good at...) The number of times I showed up to teach and had zero kids turn up was at almost comical. The giant classes were a bit of a pain though.
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