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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:14 pm Post subject: Last day at school! |
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Nice morning this morning and I thought this was going to be a pleasant day... everything was going rosy until I heard my co-teacher referring to me as 'Hughzee' (which means arsewipe in Korean - this is how these wonderful, mature people - teachers no less - behave) on the phone to admin. I was sat right next to her - Koreans of this ilk think we foreigners are really so stupid as that we have no idea what they are saying in front of us.
I told her as calmly as possible that my name is Hughes - I asked her to repeat my surname - which she pronounced perfectly - I gave her a round of applause also - I told her I would rather be preferred to be labelled as 'waygookin' than 'hughzee' she apologized. I just shook my head and went back to listening to 80s hits on youtube.
It has put things in perspective about working with these complete and utter wankers - I never will look in the mirror again and think 'could I have done more - what did I do wrong?' It is they who have the attitude problem and not I. How patient have I been in not smacking anyone in the mouth for the past 12 months! I know not every Korean school is like this so I am 0-2 down in regards where I have been working - third time lucky maybe?
Anyway - the school will be named and shamed next week folks - stay tuned because if you are coming here to work - you'll want to know what their crappy attitudes to the NET is. |
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fromtheuk
Joined: 31 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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How patient have I been in not smacking anyone in the mouth for the past 12 months! I know not every Korean school is like this so I am 0-2 down in regards where I have been working - third time lucky maybe? |
You have summed up how I felt at my last school. Most of the teachers were awful right until the end. I still said farewell to the P and VP, to be diplomatic they were impressed with that, my last co-teacher who was okay was shocked.  |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Hughzee really means asswipe? Your name is Hughes?
Eish, tough break
Anyways man, better luck for round 3, hope it's an improvement on the previous 2.
You off to China now right? Or you gonna go home for a bit? |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Otherside wrote: |
Hughzee really means asswipe? Your name is Hughes?
Eish, tough break
Anyways man, better luck for round 3, hope it's an improvement on the previous 2.
You off to China now right? Or you gonna go home for a bit? |
Cheers mate! Much appreciated!
I have followed every rule as regards trying to intergrate and got nowhere - Must admit though it seems to be this school that are playing up rather than the general rule - my mates are happy enough in their public school.
Flying back to England and then off to China in September and then comeback here because I like living here and I like to teach - maybe round 3 here will be a better experience than the last two crapholes I have worked in - all the best! |
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PatrickBateman
Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Location: American Gardens Building, West 81st Street
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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I really need to learn some Korean swear words or slang. |
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nobbyken

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Location: Yongin ^^
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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She probably said Hugh 'Shi' instead of Hugh 'SonSaingNim'.
Both are honorific and not even BanMal.
Too obvious, mmm? |
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xCustomx

Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:36 am Post subject: |
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nobbyken wrote: |
She probably said Hugh 'Shi' instead of Hugh 'SonSaingNim'.
Both are honorific and not even BanMal.
Too obvious, mmm? |
I have NEVER heard a Korean teacher refer to another teacher as Name+씨. Only the lowly secretary (i say lowly because she pretty much just sits on her ass all day looking at cyworld) is referred to as 씨.
I think the OP is overreacting though. My name is pronunced wrong all the time, but I don't care. And instead of complaining about this on Daves, why don't you tell them in KOREAN that you understand what they're saying and don't appreciate it. |
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Ruraljuror

Joined: 08 Dec 2007
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:00 am Post subject: |
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I have NEVER heard a Korean teacher refer to another teacher as Name+씨. Only the lowly secretary (i say lowly because she pretty much just sits on her ass all day looking at cyworld) is referred to as 씨. |
I can second this. Good luck in China OP...your school sucked. The fact that you lasted 12 months proves you are some of saint.
BTW, how did you happen to learn this Korean slang? I thought I was pretty well versed in it, but I've never heard it before. |
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xCustomx

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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:53 am Post subject: |
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BTW, how did you happen to learn this Korean slang? I thought I was pretty well versed in it, but I've never heard it before. |
I'm gonna guess he's referring to Huggies, as in the baby diaper |
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NightSky
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:28 am Post subject: |
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no.
hyuji, 휴지, means toilet paper or tissue.
Hughes is a hard name for a Korean to pronounce properly. they would naturally koreanize it into "hyu-jeh" or "hyu-ji', or, less likely, to say "hyu-suh" although that is closer to the proper pronunciation (hyooz).
you don't know this yet? ask them to read "zoo" without modelling it first, they will say "jew", but if you say it properly then they can usually manage to say it properly too.
this is about as rational as if you told your Western boss something about the Korean guy in your office, Mr. Park, and he then got all upset because you didn't say "Bak" properly and thought you were calling him a garage, and went off on you saying "Bak, Bak, my name is Bak not Park." |
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Ruraljuror

Joined: 08 Dec 2007
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:50 am Post subject: |
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no.
hyuji, 휴지, means toilet paper or tissue.
Hughes is a hard name for a Korean to pronounce properly. they would naturally koreanize it into "hyu-jeh" or "hyu-ji', or, less likely, to say "hyu-suh" although that is closer to the proper pronunciation (hyooz).
you don't know this yet? ask them to read "zoo" without modelling it first, they will say "jew", but if you say it properly then they can usually manage to say it properly too.
this is about as rational as if you told your Western boss something about the Korean guy in your office, Mr. Park, and he then got all upset because you didn't say "Bak" properly and thought you were calling him a garage, and went off on you saying "Bak, Bak, my name is Bak not Park." |
Haha...he's definitely right here. I never made the connection between "Hughes" and "Hyuji", but I'm fairly certain that they probably didn't mean any disrespect whatsoever. They were probably saying "Hyu Shi", like how they pronounce "Bush" as "Buh Shi". It's terriblly unfortunate this happenened to you...kind of like how a Korean named "Suk-Mi" travelling to a Western country is going to be in for a rough time, but I don't think they meant any disrespect.
If you come back to Korea, you will be dealing with this issue again. And you might even have to deal with it in China, as many Korean words are Chinese in origin. |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:32 am Post subject: |
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To cut a long story short - the previous co-teacher told me what and how I was being to referred to and spelt out what the name meant - she said it was some of the students who were calling me this but then I cottoned on to hearing the staff call me or refer to me as 'hughzee' now they all know my christian name and politely asked them to call me Carlos (my first name - because I am going public - I don't give a shit!) which of course wasn't going to happen.
The more Korean I knew - the more I knew I was being disrespected - every other teacher would be referred to as 'saengsenim Kim' or whatever - I would be referred to as 'Hughzee' even though I asked them to call me by my first name.
One day during the winter break - the VP came up to me around lunchtime and shrilled 'Hughzeeeeee Bibimbap?" as if I was an effing retard and the shit my friends hit the fan. You can search through my posting history for the story.
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And instead of complaining about this on Daves, why don't you tell them in KOREAN that you understand what they're saying and don't appreciate it. |
You are one cheeky MOFO - I think it was you who got pounded by your school - who tried to rip you off when you did everything they asked you to do, and then came on here to whinge about it. If there is one person on the board who has fought his corner against bad manners, racism and general disrespect at the workplace it is me - at cost of probably working in Korea ever again. However I am hoping they will think twice with the next waygook they try to disrespect.
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bundangbabo
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:37 am Post subject: |
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I have NEVER heard a Korean teacher refer to another teacher as Name+씨. Only the lowly secretary (i say lowly because she pretty much just sits on her ass all day looking at cyworld) is referred to as 씨. |
I can second this. Good luck in China OP...your school sucked. The fact that you lasted 12 months proves you are some of saint.
BTW, how did you happen to learn this Korean slang? I thought I was pretty well versed in it, but I've never heard it before. |
Cheers mate.
My co-teacher told me She goes 'Listen - don't take offence but...' and I was like 'oh well..' because as the end of the day - they're kids but then the staff would refer to me as such and I asked them nicely to call me by my first name - didn't work and then I had to take a great big shit on the VPs head because it weren't going to stop.
So then they started to call me by my first name but like today - if they speak to each other in Korean I'm still called/or referred to as 'Hughzy' My new co-teacher calls me Carlos to myself and to the students in a classroom setting but calls me Hughzy to
other members of staff so she was told today too - and not for the first time. |
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tenchu77491
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:50 am Post subject: |
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I have always been called by my first name. I have never been called by my family name. I didn't even tell them what to call me... I just figured it's because my family name is like impossible for them to say.. therefore they just went with my first name since it's easier. |
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bundangbabo
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:54 am Post subject: |
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NightSky wrote: |
this is about as rational as if you told your Western boss something about the Korean guy in your office, Mr. Park, and he then got all upset because you didn't say "Bak" properly and thought you were calling him a garage, and went off on you saying "Bak, Bak, my name is Bak not Park." |
Are you this stupid normally?
What a weak and absolutley crap comparison you used and it doesn't justify the crap I had to put up - but rest assured I dealt with it the way it should be dealt with.  |
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