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HolyCow
Joined: 21 May 2009
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 Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:50 am Post subject: Is the Japanese E-2 Visa Option No Longer Available? |
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Hi,
I'm Canadian and my recruiter is saying I can get my visa if I go through Japan.
Is this still possible? Because on the Korean Consulate page it says you must get your E-2 Visa from your home country but my recruiter is saying the Japan route is a loophole.
Any info would be much appreciated.
Thanks! |
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sendittheemail
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| You can still get your Korean visa at a consulate anywhere outside of Korea once you have your visa issuance number. |
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HolyCow
Joined: 21 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:32 am Post subject: |
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Okay. Even if I have never had a work visa before from Korea?
Because someone in another thread said I can only go the Japan visa route if I have had a Korean visa previously... |
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Demonicat
Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Location: Suwon
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| If you have the CRC notarized, the transcripts, and are willing to do a mire harrowing interview (though not by much I hear), then Japan is still available. |
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Ruraljuror
Joined: 08 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:37 am Post subject: |
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Okay. Even if I have never had a work visa before from Korea?
Because someone in another thread said I can only go the Japan visa route if I have had a Korean visa previously... |
From what I have heard, the Japan visa run is not available to you, as you must do an interview at a Korean consulate in your native country since you have not previously been granted a visa to work in this country.
Unless the regulations have changed in the last few months, I think your recruiter may be giving you bad intel. |
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losing_touch
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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This might be the millionth time I have typed out this information, so here goes another one. Yes, you CAN have your first E-2 visa issued in a 3rd country. I know because I went through the process myself. What you need to find is the loophole which I am about to tell you....
You need to have your degree verified by the KCUE here in Korea. This is not something you can do all by yourself. Your future employer will need to initiate this process for you. All in, it takes less than 2 weeks. Once the degree has been verified, it is put into their fancy computer system which consulates and embassies have access to. The immigration website outlines this information and has instructions for those working at embassies and consulates.
The tricky part is that most employers don't know this information. You may need to educate them about the process. |
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HolyCow
Joined: 21 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Are you sure about that?
That's what my recruiter has been telling me he is planning on doing. The only reason I think this may not be possible is because of this from the Korean Consulate website in Toronto:
New Policy (Effective Dec 15, 2007)
1. All E2 visa applicants must have an interview at the Consulate General in Toronto.
2. First- time E2 visa applicants must apply for their visas in their own countries.
3. All E2 visa applicants, except those who worked previously with an E1, E2, E3 visa in Korea without any
illegal activities, must be a Canadian passport holder.
http://www.koreanconsulate.on.ca/en/?b_id=77&c_id=343&mnu=a02b03&start=1
I've been trying to get in touch with a human being at the consulate to ask them if they know of this "loophole", but this has been close to impossible because they don't return my messages.
I guess it doesn't matter really though. I'm not working there with no visa. I could see a lot of bad things happening, as other people have already said in other threads. |
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losing_touch
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I am sure. I did it myself in August. I will dig up the information from the immigration website for you. Go and look for yourself. It is under the information for E-2 Visas. Pay attention to the parts I have put in bold.
http://www.hikorea.go.kr/pt/index.html
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The following outlines the differences when applying for visa issuance through overseas consulate.
* By rule, must apply from the Korean consulate that is located in the applicant�s country.
※ When applying from a third country is permitted:
- Those that have worked in Korea as a Professor (E-1), Foreign language instructor (E-2), or Researcher (E-3), and have no record of law breaking
-�Those whose education level has been verified by domestic verification agency (�Korean Council for University Education�) that was created based on Law on Korean University Education Association
▶By rule, must go through an interview at the consulate. (However, those that applied for visa issuance from a third country may skip this portion as situation warrants)
- According to the standard interview manual, conduct a face-to-face interview. However, if circumstances were such that making a visit is not possible or plausible, then it may be conducted over video conference.
- If, after the interview, the applicant is deemed unfit to work as an instructor, visa will not be issued regardless of the issuance of visa issuance certificate.
Notes for consulates receiving visa applications
* Checking whether the applicant is eligible to apply for a visa from a third country.
- From immigration information system: Navigate to「Visa→Visa issuance certificate」, find Education Verification (new), then check for entry of 「Education verification (�Korean Council for University Education�)」
- From immigration information system: Using「Stay →Registration→Foreigner registration」, check for whether the applicant has a record of having stayed with Professorship (E-1), Foreign Language Instructor (E-2) and Research(E-3) status
- From immigration information system: Using「Crime control →Crime inspection→Search criminal record」, check for record of lawbreaking activities during the applicant�s past stays in Korea
* For foreigners that are not eligible for application in the concerned consulate, instruct them to apply for visa issuance from a Korean consulate in their home country. |
I hope this helps.[/quote] |
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HolyCow
Joined: 21 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm. So you worked in Korea without a visa?
What school did you work at? |
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losing_touch
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| No, my situation was different than yours. I was in Bangkok and needed to get my first E-2 visa issued. I am not recommending that you work illegally. I am just telling you that you can get your visa in Japan or elsewhere. |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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If you live in your home country, then get your E2 visa there. Don't play games. If you don't and you can afford the gamble, then it "might" be possible.
I wouldn't do it unless the employer put up all the money, no reimbursement, no money from me to get it done. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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losing_touch is correct.
Do not 'read in' things that are not there.
It's unwise in the extreme to work without the proper visa. However, it's perfectly legal to be in K-land on a tourist visa before doing a (work) visa run to a third country. |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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Are you in Japan now? Or are you in Canada? You need the Visa to enter Korea. If you are in Canada, then why in the world would you want to go from Canada to Japan to Korea? You must be in Japan to have this question. That would make sense. That is, you would not want to go from Japan to Canada to Korea. However, if you are in Canada, then this is a strange thread.
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
Are you in Japan now? Or are you in Canada? You need the Visa to enter Korea. If you are in Canada, then why in the world would you want to go from Canada to Japan to Korea? You must be in Japan to have this question. That would make sense. That is, you would not want to go from Japan to Canada to Korea. However, if you are in Canada, then this is a strange thread.
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So many unanswered questions� not the least of which is - what does the OP mean by the word "through"? I suspect this a case of a shady recruiter working for an even shadier employer. |
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moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I am sure. I did it myself in August. I will dig up the information from the immigration website for you. Go and look for yourself. It is under the information for E-2 Visas. Pay attention to the parts I have put in bold.
http://www.hikorea.go.kr/pt/index.html
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The following outlines the differences when applying for visa issuance through overseas consulate.
* By rule, must apply from the Korean consulate that is located in the applicant�s country.
※ When applying from a third country is permitted:
- Those that have worked in Korea as a Professor (E-1), Foreign language instructor (E-2), or Researcher (E-3), and have no record of law breaking
-�Those whose education level has been verified by domestic verification agency (�Korean Council for University Education�) that was created based on Law on Korean University Education Association
▶By rule, must go through an interview at the consulate. (However, those that applied for visa issuance from a third country may skip this portion as situation warrants)
- According to the standard interview manual, conduct a face-to-face interview. However, if circumstances were such that making a visit is not possible or plausible, then it may be conducted over video conference.
- If, after the interview, the applicant is deemed unfit to work as an instructor, visa will not be issued regardless of the issuance of visa issuance certificate.
Notes for consulates receiving visa applications
* Checking whether the applicant is eligible to apply for a visa from a third country.
- From immigration information system: Navigate to「Visa→Visa issuance certificate」, find Education Verification (new), then check for entry of 「Education verification (�Korean Council for University Education�)」
- From immigration information system: Using「Stay →Registration→Foreigner registration」, check for whether the applicant has a record of having stayed with Professorship (E-1), Foreign Language Instructor (E-2) and Research(E-3) status
- From immigration information system: Using「Crime control →Crime inspection→Search criminal record」, check for record of lawbreaking activities during the applicant�s past stays in Korea
* For foreigners that are not eligible for application in the concerned consulate, instruct them to apply for visa issuance from a Korean consulate in their home country. |
I hope this helps. |
Losing Touch - yes, your situation WAS different - the fact was, you were already in Bangkok at the time of application, correct? (or otherwise outside your home country).
There may very well be such a situation when certain individuals who know people at Kimmi can work to get things done.
However, this particular individual is NOT outside his home country yet, but wants to arrive in K then travel to Japan - to do a visa run. That is an entirely different matter altogether.
as noted in red - there is by no means a hard and fast rule.
as for the rules changing, yes, they have been tightened up earlier this year, as I have pointed out, as well as others. there have been numerous threads about it.
The OP's school may very well have someone they work with on a regular basis at Kimmi and who may actually be assisting in visas - but as others have pointed out -
is it worth the risk to the OP??
again, if someone else is footing the entire bill, and you stand to lose nothing - including being barred from K - then by all means - take the plunge - but don't say you weren't forewarned about things going the wrong way - which, by and large, they do tend to do here quite often. |
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