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Char777



Joined: 06 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:12 am    Post subject: Midnight flip Reply with quote

This was what my recruiter said about leaving Korea before your contract is complete:
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Pls note that your school may report national immigration office to restrict your exit
until settling this entry allowance loan reimbursement so pls reimburse it immediately
in order to waive any further legal n official activities. pls remind it is legal activity n process
based on the valid contract you signed therefore you should do it without any delay & reason.
I'm worry you may put yourself in big trouble n will be happened serious situation regally n officially
if you would like to go back your country w/o resolving this reimbursement because school may
report your details to immigration office not to allowance exit.
You should reimburse the entry allowance loan because it is government regulation.

Is it true that you can be reported to immigration or is it just a scare tactic? Koreans seem to be big on scare tactics. My co-teacher said I could go to prison.
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David Gerrington



Joined: 20 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After reading the e-mail they sent, my amazement at English proficiency in this country is enhanced still further.
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Eedoryeong



Joined: 10 Dec 2007
Location: Jeju

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:24 am    Post subject: Re: Midnight flip Reply with quote

Char777 wrote:
This was what my recruiter said about leaving Korea before your contract is complete:
Quote:
Pls note that your school may report national immigration office to restrict your exit
until settling this entry allowance loan reimbursement so pls reimburse it immediately
in order to waive any further legal n official activities. pls remind it is legal activity n process
based on the valid contract you signed therefore you should do it without any delay & reason.
I'm worry you may put yourself in big trouble n will be happened serious situation regally n officially
if you would like to go back your country w/o resolving this reimbursement because school may
report your details to immigration office not to allowance exit.
You should reimburse the entry allowance loan because it is government regulation.

Is it true that you can be reported to immigration or is it just a scare tactic? Koreans seem to be big on scare tactics. My co-teacher said I could go to prison.


I'm going to call BS on your boss but to be sure:
-find out where your nearest immigration office is and when you can go.
-bring all your ID and 50,000 Won (about 50 bucks) and request a multiple re-entry E2-Visa stamp (if anybody asks anything, you can say it's for your vacation plans)(but nobody's going to ask because you're just going to go do it. Your request for a multiple re-entry is merely a vacation convenience and is not their business, as is what you do outside school hours so long as it's legal, and this is, so 'screw you boss' works here.)
-if it gets very difficult and you want to leave, then purchase airtickets online (not from your school computer!) and print them to depart on a Saturday. Then head up and go.
-also you better check what your embassy can do if they actually attempt this. I know things have gotten tough in recent years but I'm pretty sure the government of Korea can not bar you from traveling, especially not for the benefit of a private business. Can anybody else confirm the latter?
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sketcha



Joined: 05 Sep 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:48 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

so ... how would this work?

you need to get a permission slip everytime you leave the country?

I suppose you would be 'suspicious' if you only have a one way ticket and in the middle of your working visa

I guess immigration can call you on that ... but wth?? for what??

that contract is between you and your school, nothing to do with immi (that I know of)

immi's concern is that you dont overstay your visa ... leaving in the middle, not so much a problem
and imagine you working in immi ... would you even care?

I'm only guessing, but it seems bs
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The Bobster



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:35 am    Post subject: Re: Midnight flip Reply with quote

Char777 wrote:
My co-teacher said I could go to prison.

I sort of doubt it, but I hope I won't cause anger if I ask you a sincere question:

If your contract says you have to pay back the airfare if you leave early, and you knew it said so when you signed it ... why don't you want to?

If your boss is cheating YOU in some way, why not try the labor board, or some other kind of negotiation? If you've decided you just don't like it here, shouldn't you live up to any obligations you made contractually? If there is some part of the picture I'm not seeing, let me know, but part of me is wondering if you're asking us for advice on how to screw your boss ...

And I guess that's cool if we're all up front about it - but, hey, you know? We get a LOT of true stories about people having been deceived and messed up by recruiters and shady bosses, of contracts being ignored and such ... is there some reason I'd want to participate in helping a teacher do the same ?
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clyde



Joined: 09 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys have mistaken this country for its northern neighbor. You CANNOT be stopped if you want to leave this country unless there is a criminal case pending against you, with a Judge and everything. This is just a cheap ploy to frighten you, and you are only stupid if you fall for it.
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's unfortunate that you got this response from your recruiter and even more so your CT. What an alienating twit.

Isn't there some clause in public school contracts that either party can cancel the contract with appropiate notice? Good luck even broaching that question-they would try to get you to stay and then villify you whether you stayed or not.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Midnight flip Reply with quote

Eedoryeong wrote:
Char777 wrote:
This was what my recruiter said about leaving Korea before your contract is complete:
Quote:
Pls note that your school may report national immigration office to restrict your exit
until settling this entry allowance loan reimbursement so pls reimburse it immediately
in order to waive any further legal n official activities. pls remind it is legal activity n process
based on the valid contract you signed therefore you should do it without any delay & reason.
I'm worry you may put yourself in big trouble n will be happened serious situation regally n officially
if you would like to go back your country w/o resolving this reimbursement because school may
report your details to immigration office not to allowance exit.
You should reimburse the entry allowance loan because it is government regulation.

Is it true that you can be reported to immigration or is it just a scare tactic? Koreans seem to be big on scare tactics. My co-teacher said I could go to prison.


I'm going to call BS on your boss but to be sure:
-find out where your nearest immigration office is and when you can go.
-bring all your ID and 50,000 Won (about 50 bucks) and request a multiple re-entry E2-Visa stamp (if anybody asks anything, you can say it's for your vacation plans)(but nobody's going to ask because you're just going to go do it. Your request for a multiple re-entry is merely a vacation convenience and is not their business, as is what you do outside school hours so long as it's legal, and this is, so 'screw you boss' works here.)
-if it gets very difficult and you want to leave, then purchase airtickets online (not from your school computer!) and print them to depart on a Saturday. Then head up and go.
-also you better check what your embassy can do if they actually attempt this. I know things have gotten tough in recent years but I'm pretty sure the government of Korea can not bar you from traveling, especially not for the benefit of a private business. Can anybody else confirm the latter?


This is very good advice. Your recruiter usually won't get his fee unless you stay for at least six months, so he's probably doing whatever he can to keep you there that long. It sure sounds like BS to me.
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Goku



Joined: 10 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Midnight flip Reply with quote

Quote:
Pls note that your school may report national immigration office to restrict your exit
until settling this entry allowance loan reimbursement so pls reimburse it immediately
in order to waive any further legal n official activities. pls remind it is legal activity n process
based on the valid contract you signed therefore you should do it without any delay & reason.
I'm worry you may put yourself in big trouble n will be happened serious situation regally n officially
if you would like to go back your country w/o resolving this reimbursement because school may
report your details to immigration office not to allowance exit.
You should reimburse the entry allowance loan because it is government regulation. Not to mention all the terribad grammar



Hey Char777,

I think I found the source of your problems. Looks like a 13 year girl hooked you up with this job...
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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Midnight flip Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Eedoryeong wrote:
Char777 wrote:
This was what my recruiter said about leaving Korea before your contract is complete:
Quote:
Pls note that your school may report national immigration office to restrict your exit
until settling this entry allowance loan reimbursement so pls reimburse it immediately
in order to waive any further legal n official activities. pls remind it is legal activity n process
based on the valid contract you signed therefore you should do it without any delay & reason.
I'm worry you may put yourself in big trouble n will be happened serious situation regally n officially
if you would like to go back your country w/o resolving this reimbursement because school may
report your details to immigration office not to allowance exit.
You should reimburse the entry allowance loan because it is government regulation.

Is it true that you can be reported to immigration or is it just a scare tactic? Koreans seem to be big on scare tactics. My co-teacher said I could go to prison.


I'm going to call BS on your boss but to be sure:
-find out where your nearest immigration office is and when you can go.
-bring all your ID and 50,000 Won (about 50 bucks) and request a multiple re-entry E2-Visa stamp (if anybody asks anything, you can say it's for your vacation plans)(but nobody's going to ask because you're just going to go do it. Your request for a multiple re-entry is merely a vacation convenience and is not their business, as is what you do outside school hours so long as it's legal, and this is, so 'screw you boss' works here.)
-if it gets very difficult and you want to leave, then purchase airtickets online (not from your school computer!) and print them to depart on a Saturday. Then head up and go.
-also you better check what your embassy can do if they actually attempt this. I know things have gotten tough in recent years but I'm pretty sure the government of Korea can not bar you from traveling, especially not for the benefit of a private business. Can anybody else confirm the latter?


This is very good advice. Your recruiter usually won't get his fee unless you stay for at least six months, so he's probably doing whatever he can to keep you there that long. It sure sounds like BS to me.


I agree, this seems like sound advice.

But I am just curious. Maybe this post is a continuation from another post and you explained this already. But why did they feel the need to send you that kind of email in the first place. Were you asking your recruiter about leaving, or even hinting that you wanted to? Or did they just send it out of the blue?
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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never mind. I just read the other post. I think I am somewhat up to date.

Any new developments?
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Mosley



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NOT passing judgment one way or the other BUT...

posters should be aware of this...

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=158337
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Char777



Joined: 06 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As there are a lot of creeps and jerks responding to the posts here or seem to have nothing better to do than be jerks and creeps, I will not discuss the reasons why I am asking for advice on this.
However I have also received some really good posts with meaningful advice and support and those are the people whose posts are worth reading.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Char777 wrote:
As there are a lot of creeps and jerks responding to the posts here or seem to have nothing better to do than be jerks and creeps, I will not discuss the reasons why I am asking for advice on this.
However I have also received some really good posts with meaningful advice and support and those are the people whose posts are worth reading.


Put it this way - I've known many people who've done runners and don't know of any who were detained. Think about it, about the absolute worst your employer can do is get you deported.
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