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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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 Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:15 am Post subject: How wealthy are the Rockefellers? |
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Much of their wealth is hidden, and a favorite topic of speculation of conspiracy theorists.
1. They own significant direct shareholdings in the oil companies descended from "Standard Oil" (Exxon-Mobil, Chevron etc.), this being the original source of their unimaginably large wealth (the founder, John D. Sr., was the richest man in history), and still likely continue to own much more through trust companies which basically gives them tax-free status. Their actual overall stock is a secret that has never been disclosed to the public.
2. They have controlling interests in at least two of the most important banks in the world: Chase Bank (afterwards Chase-Manhattan, and now JP Morgan-Chase), as well as Citibank (now Citigroup). James Stillman Rockefeller was president and chairman of Citibank in 1959, and his cousin David (the current patriarch) became the president of Chase (of which they are still the largest shareholders today). These two banks have collective assets of around $4 trillion. The Rockefellers have a large portion of direct shares, and likely much greater ownership through trusts. Again, their actual overall stock is a secret and never disclosed to the public.
(They have 3 entire floors in the GE Building filled with minions whose full time job it is to manage their family's wealth (called "Rockefeller Family and Associates", previously run by J. Richardson Dilworth) most likely involving the shifting of money around thousands of trusts and offshore accounts to ensure their privacy and to avoid paying taxes).
The current patriarch David Rockefeller (grandson of John D. Sr.), as well as being probably the single most prominent banker and industrialist in the world, has also founded and/or chaired most of the pre-eminent think tanks which dictate American policy. These include the Council on Foreign Relations (chairman), the Trilateral Commission (founder and chairman), and the Council of the Americas (founder and chairman). He is also one of the original Bilderbergers and deeply connected to the World Bank.
Most of the above is easily verifiable fact (even leaving the speculation out of it), the Rockefellers have their fingers in pretty much everything and are probably by far the most important family in America today (while being avowed globalists).
A few small chart showing Rockefellers' interconnections in finance and industry: http://www.acsa.net/interlocks.htm
I also wonder what % of the Federal Reserve bank these people own? I would love to see that audit go through, just to find out...
Here's a rather interesting account of it, in the context of Nelson Rockefeller's vice-presidency, a bit dated though: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2753 |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:39 am Post subject: |
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The puppet ex-VP Cheney getting a pat on the head from his 'real boss' at the Council of the Americas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMiMuMqXrE&feature=related
and again at the Council of Foreign Relations (where Cheney admits he lied to congress about his membership/directorship while running for election).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMiMuMqXrE&feature=related
In other words, Cheney, arguably the most powerful man in gov't during the last administration is merely a sycophantic lackey (just look at that grin he puts on) of David Rockefeller, clearly the real power in America.
I can't believe I didn't know any of this before... |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:00 am Post subject: |
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Cheney went from the CFR to CEO of halliburton. That's quite the career switch eh? From running an academic think tank to CEO of halliburton.
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Between 1987 and 1989, during his last term in Congress, Cheney was a director of the Council on Foreign Relations foreign policy organization.[47]
With the new Democratic administration under President Bill Clinton in January 1993, Cheney left the Department of Defense and joined the American Enterprise Institute. He also served a second term as a Council on Foreign Relations director from 1993 to 1995.[47] From 1995 until 2000, he served as Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of Halliburton, a Fortune 500 company and market leader in the energy sector. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney#Private_sector_career |
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Theme
Joined: 06 Jun 2009
Location: Cedar Rapids Iowa
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| Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
Cheney went from the CFR to CEO of halliburton. That's quite the career switch eh? From running an academic think tank to CEO of halliburton.
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Between 1987 and 1989, during his last term in Congress, Cheney was a director of the Council on Foreign Relations foreign policy organization.[47]
With the new Democratic administration under President Bill Clinton in January 1993, Cheney left the Department of Defense and joined the American Enterprise Institute. He also served a second term as a Council on Foreign Relations director from 1993 to 1995.[47] From 1995 until 2000, he served as Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of Halliburton, a Fortune 500 company and market leader in the energy sector. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney#Private_sector_career |
I was disappointed that Gates and Buffet chose to give their wealth away. They could have been a countering force to families like the Rockefellers who have accumulated their vast wealth over time. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:03 am Post subject: |
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| Theme wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
Cheney went from the CFR to CEO of halliburton. That's quite the career switch eh? From running an academic think tank to CEO of halliburton.
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Between 1987 and 1989, during his last term in Congress, Cheney was a director of the Council on Foreign Relations foreign policy organization.[47]
With the new Democratic administration under President Bill Clinton in January 1993, Cheney left the Department of Defense and joined the American Enterprise Institute. He also served a second term as a Council on Foreign Relations director from 1993 to 1995.[47] From 1995 until 2000, he served as Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of Halliburton, a Fortune 500 company and market leader in the energy sector. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney#Private_sector_career |
I was disappointed that Gates and Buffet chose to give their wealth away. They could have been a countering force to families like the Rockefellers who have accumulated their vast wealth over time. |
Most people in the world (including me until recently) think Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are the richest men on earth. In fact their wealth is practically nothing, a proverbial drop in the bucket, when compared to the Rockefellers and other banker families. The Rockefellers wealth (measured in assets, mostly squirreled away into trusts, out of public scrutiny) is almost certainly in the trillions of dollars -- and yet very few people are aware of this.
Bear in mind John D. Sr. supposedly 'gave' most his wealth away long ago (same goes for steel magnate Andrew Carnagie). The robber barons know how to avoid pretty well all taxes by shifting funds around among various trusts and foundations, often under the guise of 'philanthropy'. Basically it's big sham. |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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None of them are going to live to 100. People have the same restraints - the body of a rich 70 year old is the same as a body of a far less moneyed 70 year old. Each has their friends, a roof over their head, a spose, a decaying body.
Keeping all that money to oneself just means one is a greedy f^%k. |
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cangel
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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Rusty Shackleford
Joined: 08 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Cheonmunka wrote: |
Keeping all that money to oneself just means one is a greedy f^%k. |
This type of reasoning always frustrates me. Just because an individual has a lot of money, doesn't mean there is any less wealth out there for everyone else. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:26 am Post subject: |
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| Rusty Shackleford wrote: |
| Cheonmunka wrote: |
Keeping all that money to oneself just means one is a greedy f^%k. |
This type of reasoning always frustrates me. Just because an individual has a lot of money, doesn't mean there is any less wealth out there for everyone else. |
Yes it does, actually. Look up 'fractional reserve banking', figure out what it entails, and then realise that the people who own the banks control the money supply, and therefore control you and every thing else. There literally isn't enough money to go around, and that makes you a slave to money and interest.
The Rockefeller family has controlling interests in JP Morgan Chase and Citigroup, two of the preeminent financial institutions on earth, and most certainly have a huge stake in the Fed (our privately owned and controlled central bank which creates our entire money supply at interest). David Rockefeller has either founded or chaired (often both) all of the major think tanks in the US that determine government policy. He is basically the king pin par excellence and most a | | |
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