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asmith
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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 Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject: Obama--the black, handsome Bush |
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Bush introduced the first stimulus plan when the oil prices--which were rigged--went up.
Obama said he wanted to the oil prices to go even higher.
Bush began the bailouts for GM and the large banks which went bust.
Obama amped up the bailouts.
Bush spent a fortune on revamping medicaid.
Obama is spending a fortune on a single payer health care plan.
Bush enjoyed killing Muslims and spreading American democracy.
Obama currently enjoys killing Muslims and spreading American democracy.
You ever get the feeling you were hoodwinked? |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Obama--the black, handsome Bush |
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| asmith wrote: |
| Obama is spending a fortune on a single payer health care plan. |
Maybe I need to read a bit more again, as haven't had the time. But I thought this idea was pretty much dead in the water at this stage. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: Obama--the black, handsome Bush |
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| asmith wrote: |
Bush introduced the first stimulus plan when the oil prices--which were rigged--went up.
Obama said he wanted to the oil prices to go even higher.
Bush began the bailouts for GM and the large banks which went bust.
Obama amped up the bailouts.
Bush spent a fortune on revamping medicaid.
Obama is spending a fortune on a single payer health care plan.
Bush enjoyed killing Muslims and spreading American democracy.
Obama currently enjoys killing Muslims and spreading American democracy.
You ever get the feeling you were hoodwinked? |
Nope. I say "you go girl!" |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| Obama has sent in the Wall street jackals to dismantle GM and sell it off internationally, while at the same time flushing $13+ trillion down the toilet to prop up his banker friends. |
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RJjr
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:08 am Post subject: |
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Same shit, different asshole.  |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Remember a year ago all the clowns around here thinking an election of either a Demoblican or Republocrat would actually change something?
I won't mention any names. |
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Robot_Teacher
Joined: 18 Feb 2009
Location: Robotting Around the World
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Seems to be a bigger spender than Bush, but acts like he's a liberal for positive change. America's problems are astronomically huge and out of control as the banksters and other top executives are still steering the Titanic of a country. The impending massive system collapse we all know is coming is not a question of if, but when, unless it's all reworked, America goes back to being gainfully employed, rebuilds, and pays off debts. Fact is, we all know the right things are still not happening and it's only getting worse. The only reason why the question of socialization of the country has come up is becuase the economic system is not providing for the tapped out people nor able to manage itself as a efficient free market. Providing things like health adequate health insurance, pay, and benefits as well as a robust job market though building long term value they used to do years ago when cars were beautiful and every thing was built heavy duty. America was set up sweet and had it all going for her and now it's blown from gross fraud, waste, and abuse of resources.
Only when a competent government takes the reigns of the country system will America work again. If not that, then the people will have to take it back and start over from scratch with little more than the shirts on their backs. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| Robot_Teacher wrote: |
| The impending massive system collapse we all know is coming is not a question of if, but when, unless it's all reworked, America goes back to being gainfully employed, rebuilds, and pays off debts. Fact is, we all know the right things are still not happening and it's only getting worse. |
If schmucks like you and I "all know this," don't you think our national leaders know it, too? Of course they do, and more and better than we do. Yet, not only do they do nothing to counter it, they are actually implementing the policies that cause and hasten it! What is wrong with this picture?
But of course, I am just a "conspiracy theorist."  This is all just random, and we are all just really, really unlucky. |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:01 am Post subject: ... |
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Remember a year ago all the clowns around here thinking an election of either a Demoblican or Republocrat would actually change something?
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I won't mention any names. |
Hmm. Ron Paul is still a Republican, no?
I beg to differ with the above implications that Bush and Obama are one and the same. On the other hand, I haven't really read all of that copy-paste you've listed above. As such, I'm not going to reply here or at this time.
On the other other hand, I think it's fair to ask who you are (that applies to all who've posted on this thread). While I dislike labels (especially as substitute for argument), y'all are talking presidents. Presidents need parties and platforms; hence, they need labels. So who are you and who should be president and doing what? |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:49 am Post subject: Re: ... |
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Remember a year ago all the clowns around here thinking an election of either a Demoblican or Republocrat would actually change something?
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I won't mention any names. |
Hmm. Ron Paul is still a Republican, no? |
Give me a break, puh-lease! You damn well know that Paul is a Republican in name only, at least as it describes the party today. He is even ostracized within that party, frequently voting against the majority of those party members. If anything, he is a Libertarian, the party for which he ran for president in 1988.
If he had won this time, and managed to avoid assassination, we'd have begun the long, difficult process of climbing out of the depression. The Fed would have begun the process of its abolition which may still happen if his bill, HR1207, gets passed.
We would also be back on our way to having real money again, likely by a gold standard.
Our troops would have begun the process of return from Iraq and Afghanistan.
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| I beg to differ with the above implications that Bush and Obama are one and the same. On the other hand, I haven't really read all of that copy-paste you've listed above. As such, I'm not going to reply here or at this time. |
If after reading the above articles you still feel there are significant differences (besides the one I already mentioned), I'd love to hear them. |
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Nowhere Man
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| Give me a break, puh-lease! You damn well know that Paul is a Republican in name only, at least as it describes the party today. He is even ostracized within that party, frequently voting against the majority of those party members. If anything, he is a Libertarian, the party for which he ran for president in 1988. |
OK, but he's a... Republocrat.
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| If he had won this time, and managed to avoid assassination, we'd have begun the long, difficult process of climbing out of the depression. |
You mean he'd have allowed whatever was going to happen to happen?
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| The Fed would have begun the process of its abolition which may still happen if his bill, HR1207, gets passed. |
ROFL. You mean Congress was going to permit this?
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| We would also be back on our way to having real money again, likely by a gold standard. |
ROFL. You mean Congress was going to permit this?
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| Our troops would have begun the process of return from Iraq and Afghanistan. |
So, they were all just going to vamoose?
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| I beg to differ with the above implications that Bush and Obama are one and the same. On the other hand, I haven't really read all of that copy-paste you've listed above. As such, I'm not going to reply here or at this time. |
If after reading the above articles you still feel there are significant differences (besides the one I already mentioned), I'd love to hear them. |
I'm well-acquainted with your deafness. |
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Chambertin
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: Gunsan
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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And they both must have paid McCain a huge of sum to tank his campaign.
First time McCain just vanishes for no reason.
The second he grabs some crazy chick from nowhere at the last minute who would have destroyed anyone's campaign.
I have to admit, I really admire McCain. That boy not only gets to sit back in his comfy chair from Arizona, he gets paid from every angle you can imagine. Screw being president, get paid to lose. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Ron Paul, and I do think he would have been great for the country right now, would never get elected. I also think Obama has a lot of great ideas, it is just that Bush completely bankrupted and spent who knows how many of the next generations money on everything you can imagine. So it is hard to follow-up on that spending but diverting it in positive ways, rather than pure on tossed-away ways.
The problem is that Republicans actually think of themselves as fiscal conservatives and have convinced incredibly large portions of the country that they are as well.
We know that is not true whatsoever. But that large block of the voting public is pretty much the same one that worships FOX and Rush Limbaugh. You pretty much have the largest herd of sheep alive on Planet Earth grazing off the propoganga.
According the FOX NEWS Bible, I believe they preach that Ron Paul is Judas the Traiter, or the wolf in lions skin, or at the mimimum some lunatic in the desert who needs serious healing.
Since FOX is so strongly determined to rip the country apart...I see little hope whatsoever of Ron Paul getting legit airtime with legit ideas being told until maybe 2012, and I wouldn't expect much from FOX at that time either. It would have to be another underground, grassroots organization.
FOX's main mission is to divide the country into as strong of hatred of each other as they can possibly rile up, so a Ron Paul guy isn't part of the agenda. Pure hatreds on Obama people are good for the agenda, but political ideas and ways to move the country forward, are not on the agenda. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Give me a break, puh-lease! You damn well know that Paul is a Republican in name only, at least as it describes the party today. He is even ostracized within that party, frequently voting against the majority of those party members. If anything, he is a Libertarian, the party for which he ran for president in 1988. |
OK, but he's a... Republocrat. |
For whatever reason, you just want to be argumentative, and I will not humor you indefinitely, but these labels are meaningless. Look at policies and actions. He does very little in line with Republocrats. Can I get some of what you are smoking?
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| If he had won this time, and managed to avoid assassination, we'd have begun the long, difficult process of climbing out of the depression. |
You mean he'd have allowed whatever was going to happen to happen? |
No. He would have provided the necessary leadership to stop digging the hole we are in instead of continuing.
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| The Fed would have begun the process of its abolition which may still happen if his bill, HR1207, gets passed. |
ROFL. You mean Congress was going to permit this? |
Umm, he already has gotten a majority of the House to co-sponsor it, and we know that as president he could accomplish much more. Anyway, thanks for your confidence in my powers to foretell the future in a hypothetical world.
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| We would also be back on our way to having real money again, likely by a gold standard. |
ROFL. You mean Congress was going to permit this? |
It did at one time, and now we need some drastic changes. With the proper leadership and confluence of circumstances, it is possible.
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| Our troops would have begun the process of return from Iraq and Afghanistan. |
So, they were all just going to vamoose? |
If you find yourself in a hole, don't keep digging.
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| I beg to differ with the above implications that Bush and Obama are one and the same. On the other hand, I haven't really read all of that copy-paste you've listed above. As such, I'm not going to reply here or at this time. |
If after reading the above articles you still feel there are significant differences (besides the one I already mentioned), I'd love to hear them. |
I'm well-acquainted with your deafness. |
Yet you continue to speak volumes to me! Masochism much? |
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