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Suza



Joined: 17 Oct 2008
Location: Ansan

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:14 pm    Post subject: NON-TEACHING WORK Reply with quote

My UK boyfriend has recently came to South Korea. I myself am employed as an English teacher. Due to not having a degree or relevant qualifications, he is unable to teach.

He is a qualified Rope Access Technician, Geotechnical worker, Oil Rig Offshore worker and Industrial painter.

Does anyone know how to go about finding employment in these fields? South Korea has many offshore rigs, but trying to find any information is proving very difficult.

Thx
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are two problems:

#1. Your b/f can only take a job if it can be demonstrated to the gov't that no qualified Korean can be found

#2. Korea's unemployment rate is quite high

Good luck, but I doubt that your b/f will have any luck.
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only way to find out is for him to drop off his resume at one of those companies. I knew a few foreign guys in Busan who worked as safety inspectors for the companies. Think they all lived and hung out at Starfish Bar in Jangsan (top of haeundae in busan). Those guys all had their Masters. but like I said previously, it still wouldn't hurt to try.
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Ruraljuror



Joined: 08 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm assuming that your boyfriend:

a) is fluent in Korean. Because why would a company hire someone who they can't even communicate with?

b) has a social network here to help him find a job...in Korea, more so than any other country, it is all about who you know, not what you know. Koreans wouldn't even bother applying for a job where they don't have some sort of "in" (friend, family, same school, etc.).

If this is the case, he will still have problems finding a job here, as the economy has taken a real pounding and unemployment is higher than it's been in 15 years.

If your boyfriend does not have a) AND b), I'd recommend advising him to go back to school.

Or if you think I'm being a big meanie, by all means buy him a one-way ticket cuz most likely he'll be issued a job as soon as he steps off the plane. Rolling Eyes
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sharkey



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruraljuror wrote:
I'm assuming that your boyfriend:

a) is fluent in Korean. Because why would a company hire someone who they can't even communicate with?

b) has a social network here to help him find a job...in Korea, more so than any other country, it is all about who you know, not what you know. Koreans wouldn't even bother applying for a job where they don't have some sort of "in" (friend, family, same school, etc.).

If this is the case, he will still have problems finding a job here, as the economy has taken a real pounding and unemployment is higher than it's been in 15 years.

If your boyfriend does not have a) AND b), I'd recommend advising him to go back to school.

Or if you think I'm being a big meanie, by all means buy him a one-way ticket cuz most likely he'll be issued a job as soon as he steps off the plane. Rolling Eyes



youre a tool, she asked a simple question... what nerve!
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gangwonbound



Joined: 27 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sharkey wrote:
Ruraljuror wrote:
I'm assuming that your boyfriend:

a) is fluent in Korean. Because why would a company hire someone who they can't even communicate with?

b) has a social network here to help him find a job...in Korea, more so than any other country, it is all about who you know, not what you know. Koreans wouldn't even bother applying for a job where they don't have some sort of "in" (friend, family, same school, etc.).

If this is the case, he will still have problems finding a job here, as the economy has taken a real pounding and unemployment is higher than it's been in 15 years.

If your boyfriend does not have a) AND b), I'd recommend advising him to go back to school.

Or if you think I'm being a big meanie, by all means buy him a one-way ticket cuz most likely he'll be issued a job as soon as he steps off the plane. Rolling Eyes



youre a tool, she asked a simple question... what nerve!


I agree...tool...

The bit about speaking Korean is such a load of bull...

There are lots of Techs working for big korean companies like Posco who do not speak much korean ie Turks, Germans etc...I've met quite a few in my time...
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Ruraljuror



Joined: 08 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I *completely* disagree. I am not a tool.

There are 2 non-teaching positions available to foreigners:

a) Positions for highly qualified foreigners with areas of specialities that would be useful to Korean companies. I have met many myself: architects, engineers, etc. Korean companies manage to work around the language barrier in order to employee these highly trained and sought after workers. Since her boyfriend does not have a degree, he does not fit in this category.

b) Migrant workers from South Asian countries, who do many labor jobs that Koreans don't want to do. They work 60-80 hours a week, doing the most dirty, dangerous, and demeaning jobs in Korea, and get paid slightly better than they would back in their home country, but nothing approaching what a Western worker would demand. So if working in a sweatshop for 80 hours a week to collect his $800 a month sounds like a winner...you are technically correct. These jobs definitely *are* available.

Really ask yourself this: Those of you are disagreeing with me about the lack of quality jobs for a foreigner with no college degree...are you serious? Do you really believe that to be the case? If you had a friend or family member with no degree, would you really recommend them come to Korea to look for a job? I know I'm being accused of being a big ol' meany here, but I'm trying to save her and her boyfriend time and money in the search for a job that I find highly unlikely. You are the ones who are wasting her time and plane ticket money in order to be "nice". In other words, sometimes the kindness is pulling a Simon Cowell and saying "Your dream is dead, find a new plan", rather than the Paula Abdul "Everything is wonderful, follow your dreams and life will reward you!"
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Suza



Joined: 17 Oct 2008
Location: Ansan

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sharkey wrote:
Ruraljuror wrote:
I'm assuming that your boyfriend:

a) is fluent in Korean. Because why would a company hire someone who they can't even communicate with?

b) has a social network here to help him find a job...in Korea, more so than any other country, it is all about who you know, not what you know. Koreans wouldn't even bother applying for a job where they don't have some sort of "in" (friend, family, same school, etc.).

If this is the case, he will still have problems finding a job here, as the economy has taken a real pounding and unemployment is higher than it's been in 15 years.

If your boyfriend does not have a) AND b), I'd recommend advising him to go back to school.

Or if you think I'm being a big meanie, by all means buy him a one-way ticket cuz most likely he'll be issued a job as soon as he steps off the plane. Rolling Eyes



youre a tool, she asked a simple question... what nerve!


I wouldnt expect nothing more from this twatting site! Its full of complete cocks!
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suza wrote:


I wouldnt expect nothing more from this twatting site! Its full of complete cocks!


Double negative....

But seriously. This is a site dedicated to teachers who mainly come on her to bitch and complain because most people won't listen to them in their daily lives. There is work elsewhere, but your bf is going to have to come here first and network to get a job. I'm not sure how in demand his skills are, but he won't know until he gets here. If you are moving to Seoul, have him seek employment in one of the Free Economic Zones. From what I heard, Korean labor laws are relaxed there. Not quite sure how relaxed immigration law is in there though.
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Illysook



Joined: 30 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are plenty of Hagwons that will hire a spouse under the table...but I'm not sure about a boyfriend.
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Kurtz



Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Location: ples bilong me

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:43 pm    Post subject: Re: NON-TEACHING WORK Reply with quote

Suza wrote:
My UK boyfriend has recently came to South Korea. I myself am employed as an English teacher. Due to not having a degree or relevant qualifications, he is unable to teach.

He is a qualified Rope Access Technician, Geotechnical worker, Oil Rig Offshore worker and Industrial painter.

Does anyone know how to go about finding employment in these fields? South Korea has many offshore rigs, but trying to find any information is proving very difficult.

Thx


Wouldn't it have been more logical for your b/f to have asked around in his own circle of work mates back home before blindlingly coming to Korea on a whim and a prayer? I mean, how the hell is your average English teacher going to know about your question? Seems a real stab in the dark, and when you hear some negative feedback, you get all narky.
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gangwonbound wrote:
sharkey wrote:
Ruraljuror wrote:
I'm assuming that your boyfriend:

a) is fluent in Korean. Because why would a company hire someone who they can't even communicate with?

b) has a social network here to help him find a job...in Korea, more so than any other country, it is all about who you know, not what you know. Koreans wouldn't even bother applying for a job where they don't have some sort of "in" (friend, family, same school, etc.).

If this is the case, he will still have problems finding a job here, as the economy has taken a real pounding and unemployment is higher than it's been in 15 years.

If your boyfriend does not have a) AND b), I'd recommend advising him to go back to school.

Or if you think I'm being a big meanie, by all means buy him a one-way ticket cuz most likely he'll be issued a job as soon as he steps off the plane. Rolling Eyes



youre a tool, she asked a simple question... what nerve!


I agree...tool...

The bit about speaking Korean is such a load of bull...

There are lots of Techs working for big korean companies like Posco who do not speak much korean ie Turks, Germans etc...I've met quite a few in my time...


I for one agree with ruraljuror. While you may have seen alot of guys who don't speak much Korean, they usually fall into 2 categories.
1. 3D Worker, Does the OPs boyfriend want to work a 60 hour week for what would be considered a pittance in the UK?
2. Highly qualified and skilled. The OPs boyfriend doesn't have a masters nor is he an engineer.

As Yata said, for him to work LEGALLY he would need to be able to prove that he offers skills which are in short supply. With techinicon leve qualifications that is highly doubtful.

Finally, OP, When you post the topic, you open the debate. Some people post for different reasons, and when a repeat question (like this one, which comes up in various forms atleast monthly) appears for the umpteenth time sometimes you give an honest if brutal answer. So if ruraljuror is being a cock, then you are being lazy in not searching the forums and doing your own research.

PS. To get those qualifications, did your bf need to do some tertiary education at a college/technikon, if he has 2 years of post-highschool education he may be eligible for some GEPIK jobs (albeit at a reduced rate of pay, and less desired locations). Look into it.
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Ruraljuror



Joined: 08 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
sharkey wrote:
Ruraljuror wrote:
I'm assuming that your boyfriend:

a) is fluent in Korean. Because why would a company hire someone who they can't even communicate with?

b) has a social network here to help him find a job...in Korea, more so than any other country, it is all about who you know, not what you know. Koreans wouldn't even bother applying for a job where they don't have some sort of "in" (friend, family, same school, etc.).

If this is the case, he will still have problems finding a job here, as the economy has taken a real pounding and unemployment is higher than it's been in 15 years.

If your boyfriend does not have a) AND b), I'd recommend advising him to go back to school.

Or if you think I'm being a big meanie, by all means buy him a one-way ticket cuz most likely he'll be issued a job as soon as he steps off the plane.



youre a tool, she asked a simple question... what nerve!


I wouldnt expect nothing more from this twatting site! Its full of complete cocks!




Alright, you caught me...sorry, to have kept the joke going for this long, but I wanted to make sure you were cool first. Yeah...you are right. There are MANY, MANY jobs in Korea for foreigners with no degrees. Your boyfriend will have no problem. He should absolutely buy a one-way ticket, it will be the smartest move he has ever made. Other than shacking up with a sweetheart like yourself of course.
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Suza



Joined: 17 Oct 2008
Location: Ansan

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah.....well anyway he's off back to the UK. he was already here!

How quick things change.....live and learn lol live and learn!
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Ruraljuror



Joined: 08 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess he wasn't able to find a job. I'm sure that comes as a real surprise to sharkey and gangwonbound.

By the way sharkey, your advice to dealing with loud ELEMENTARY students;

Quote:
get a bamboo stick.. problem solved


is rad. I think that this proves that you are: AWESOME.
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