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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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Our Last Night
Now at last the night has fallen
We're all alone
The sky is dark, the stars are bright
And we're so far from home
You and I have been together
For so many years
If love is right, why do you fight
To hold back needless tears
Tell me that it'll be alright
But when I'm deep inside I realize
That this our last night
Bring your pretty head closer
Get it close to mine
Your eyes are saying something
But the words are hard to find
Love don't know it lasts forever
Ours is here to stay
After all the love we've given
Please don't look at me that way
Tell me that it'll be alright
But when I'm deep inside I realize
That this our last night
Feelings come and hearts fall broken
Slipping through our hands
The ways of life and love
I'll never never understand
If it's true what you've been saying
If there's still a chance
Why is it that the two of us
Can't rescue this romance
Faded love don't ever come back
So the story goes
There is a side of you and I
Where love no longer goes
Tell me that it'll be alright
But when I'm deep inside I realize
That this our last night |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Hater Depot wrote: |
| I guess marriage is just between a man and a woman and a woman in Argentina. |
I wonder how good hypocrisy up the wazoo feels. (In addition to voting to impeach Clinton, he also voted for DOMA.) |
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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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| Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:23 am Post subject: |
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From 'Bill' on another site:
"He told his staff he would be 'spiking some Argentina tail' and they HEARD 'hiking the Appalachian Trail.' An honest mistake." |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Every one is knocking him for his hypocrisy on social matters. What about his hypocrisy on fiscal matters as well. The blogger Digby had this to say:
As far as I'm concerned Sanford's romantic antics are pathetic and none of my business. But the idea that taxpayers are paying for them is outrageous. If a public servant can't pay for his own trysts and needs government business trips to cover them up, then he needs to make other plans. When he's a also person who waxes on about self-reliance and not depending on the government --- even to the extent of refusing to take federal money to help the unemployed keep food on the table --- then he has disqualified himself from public office. Sexual hypocrisy is venial sin. Stiffing poor people while stealing from government coffers is a crime. He should resign. |
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Tiger Beer
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| Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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$8,000 tab to the people of South Carolina is pretty hefty.
It pretty epitimizes the problem. Very few regular working class people would ever be able to afford $8,000 little romp in the hey down in Argentina for a week.
So the idea that his particular supposedly 'fiscal conservative' has no problem writing something like that off on the people of SC, is, well, ridiculous.
This pretty much embodies why BOTH the U.S. government and U.S. corporations are all going under right now. All of the working people of these companies and government agencies are living off of regular wages generally much closer to minimum wage, but the other class of people in government and corporations fly around with no consideration whatsoever living like Kings doing whatever they want, anytime they want, and whatever cost it is - and charging it to the government or corporations that employ them. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Article here on Sanford's thoughts on resignation.
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�Immediately after all this unfolded last week I had thought I would resign � as I believe in the military model of leadership and when trust of any form is broken one lays down the sword,� Sanford wrote in the message, which he posted on his personal website http://www.governorsanford.com and Facebook page, and broadcast via Twitter.
�A long list of close friends have suggested otherwise � that for God to really work in my life I shouldn�t be getting off so lightly. While it would be personally easier to exit stage left, their point has been that my larger sin was the sin of pride.�
Sanford writes that those friends asserted that �if I walked in with a real spirit of humility then this last legislative term could well be our most productive one - and that outside this term, I would ultimately be a better person and of more service in whatever doors God opened next in life if I stuck around to learn lessons rather than running and hiding down at the farm.� |
I wonder how seriously Mark Sanford would consider these words if, say, one of his aides stole a substantial amount of money from the government for personal use and then, after being caught, said the same thing. Somehow, I suspect he would not be keeping that aide on staff, yet he clearly expects the people of South Carolina to afford him that courtesy, and that fact alone shows he should be talking about the "sin of pride" in the present -- not past -- tense. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Middle Land
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| I'd like to see Man in the Middle's comments on this, yet another Republican in a sex scandal. |
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mises
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| So the dude banged a Latin dame. Maybe his wife is horror to be around. Maybe she has no sex drive. Maybe she's terrible in bed. Maybe he isn't attracted to her. Maybe the relationship is a show. Maybe the wife knew (they often do). BFD. Why the hell 1) is this news and 2) should be resign? People bang. Let's grow the hell up about it. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| So the dude banged a Latin dame. Maybe his wife is horror to be around. Maybe she has no sex drive. Maybe she's terrible in bed. Maybe he isn't attracted to her. Maybe the relationship is a show. Maybe the wife knew (they often do). BFD. Why the hell 1) is this news and 2) should be resign? People bang. Let's grow the hell up about it. |
Yeah, it is like Clinton-Monica all over again.
OMG  People have sex |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
| So the dude banged a Latin dame. Maybe his wife is horror to be around. Maybe she has no sex drive. Maybe she's terrible in bed. Maybe he isn't attracted to her. Maybe the relationship is a show. Maybe the wife knew (they often do). BFD. Why the hell 1) is this news and 2) should be resign? People bang. Let's grow the hell up about it. |
Yeah, it is like Clinton-Monica all over again.
OMG People have sex |
Maybe so, but this guy was calling for Clinton to resign. Also, it's not like it's a witch hunt or anything. Members of his own party are calling for him to resign. There is also the question of misappropriation of state funds and leaving the state without putting some one in charge.
Also, now he can't seem to shut up. It's a mid-life crisis playing out for all of the world to see. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| Why the hell 1) is this news and 2) should be resign? People bang. Let's grow the hell up about it. |
I think the jist of the case for his resignation is:
1) His actions go directly against the values upon which he campaigned.
2) His use of public funds to indulge in his "banging" is misappropriation.
Combined, we end up with a man who simply has demonstrated he cannot be trusted with such an important office. If someone who worked for me used thousands of dollars in company funds to engage in adultery, that alone would warrant firing in my estimation, entirely independent of the former issue.
If the man had not campaigned based upon the values he campaigned upon, and he had not used public funds in order to engage in his actions, I'd agree it would be no big deal. |
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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
1) His actions go directly against the values upon which he campaigned.
2) His use of public funds to indulge in his "banging" is misappropriation. |
3) He took a week off and disappeared into thin air. No notice, no contact, nowhere to be found.
Think anyone else would have a job to come back to? Or is he under the impression that he owns the company? |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
| Also, now he can't seem to shut up. It's a mid-life crisis playing out for all of the world to see. |
Worse, yet is the ringer he puts his wife through.
He continually refers to this Argentina woman as this great love story...this tragic love story. Additionally, he got busted by his wife with her before. He's just bringing her through the washer and dryer, in my opinion.
There is also an unspoken rule for chronic cheaters...if you have that much of a problem, screw anyone you want, but don't fall in love with them.
At the MINIMUM, have some respect for your wife. But telling the media about your tragic love story and admitting to other affairs. He just digs the hole worse and worse, and shows NO respect for his wife at all.
If the Republicans fight for him to stay in as power, it will yet again reinforce to half of the American people the amazing hypocrisy of the Republican Party. But they'll spin it somehow into something positive or a victim of some kind.
Speaking of lame Republicans...anyone else pretty sick of the fact that during the War in Iraq, every Republican out there was GUNG HO for spending every last dime we had in Iraq at all costs...and now that Obama is in office, I've yet to hear one single pro-war Republican speak up anymore? PURE HYPOCRISY...no consistent values on anything whatsoever. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
| So the dude banged a Latin dame. Maybe his wife is horror to be around. Maybe she has no sex drive. Maybe she's terrible in bed. Maybe he isn't attracted to her. Maybe the relationship is a show. Maybe the wife knew (they often do). BFD. Why the hell 1) is this news and 2) should be resign? People bang. Let's grow the hell up about it. |
Yeah, it is like Clinton-Monica all over again.
OMG People have sex |
Maybe so, but this guy was calling for Clinton to resign. Also, it's not like it's a witch hunt or anything. Members of his own party are calling for him to resign. There is also the question of misappropriation of state funds and leaving the state without putting some one in charge. |
I have already commented upon Sanford's hypocrisy regarding not only the Clinton impeachment but also his support of the Defense of Marriage Act.
But I agree that he should resign for putting state funds to personal use. Every man should be responsible for his own adultery. 
I just think it high time for an end to American erotophobia. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
| Why the hell 1) is this news and 2) should be resign? People bang. Let's grow the hell up about it. |
I think the jist of the case for his resignation is:
1) His actions go directly against the values upon which he campaigned.
2) His use of public funds to indulge in his "banging" is misappropriation.
Combined, we end up with a man who simply has demonstrated he cannot be trusted with such an important office. If someone who worked for me used thousands of dollars in company funds to engage in adultery, that alone would warrant firing in my estimation, entirely independent of the former issue.
If the man had not campaigned based upon the values he campaigned upon, and he had not used public funds in order to engage in his actions, I'd agree it would be no big deal. |
He didn't misuse funds, according to the state.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7986472&page=1
This is just 1) gotcha politics and 2) part of the never ending campaign. |
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