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ilovespaghetti



Joined: 01 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:01 pm    Post subject: korean expectations Reply with quote

Hi.
If you've worked in Korea for more than a year do Koreans expect you to be alot like them and adjust? Do they expect you to behave much more like them?

Do they expect you to bow and never complain and never buck the system?
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They expect me to be like someone from Roma.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: Re: korean expectations Reply with quote

ilovespaghetti wrote:
Hi.
If you've worked in Korea for more than a year do Koreans expect you to be alot like them and adjust? Do they expect you to behave much more like them?

Do they expect you to bow and never complain and never buck the system?

Basically, yes.

Its their system & they've hired you to contribute to it, not reinvent it.
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gregtheman100



Joined: 20 Apr 2009
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really depends where you are in Korea and who you are working for. Some bosses understand that you're not Korean and will understand that you have different customs. I think it helps to try and adapt to their customs, but lots of things you might not be able to do (eat certain Korean foods, have perfect Korean manners, etc).
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah the classic waegook dilema: about half of Koreans want us to act Korean and half want us to act like a foreigner, whatever they think that means. Generally at a PS they want you more Korean and at a hagwon more foreign. The same goes for rural versus urban.
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dmbfan



Joined: 09 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For fun, you could tell them how Koreans act in other countries.


1. Don't mix in the population.
2. Isolate themselves.
3. Don't eat anything but Korean food.
4. Don't adapt to the host culture
5. Koreans take their culture with them and don't let go.


Seiously, they can't have it both ways. Korea is not that important.

dmbfan
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iammac2002



Joined: 12 Jun 2009
Location: 'n Beter plek.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And they expect all girls to have long long hair. If you have a shaved or even just plain boyish haircut, you have to wear a wig to school every day until you look like a girl again. It doesn't matter if you have the hips, bum, breasts of an African, if you have short hair they think you're a man.

In restaurants they show you how to eat. How to cut the kimchi with scissors and how to dip it in the sauce. I am old enough to know how to eat, as long as it goes into my stomach, does it matter how it gets there? I'll use an enema if that would work, lol!

Don't you just love how they don't want us to be us, but they so want to be like America? They want to be the new world power!
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Kurtz



Joined: 05 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well this quickly turned into a Korea bashing thread.
From my travels, Asians in general only like to eat their own food, and if they can't speak English well, they tend to congregate in mobs, much like ESL teachers who can't speak Korean and like greasy food who also hang out in mobs to feel secure (not all, but those 23 year old noobs.....).

At least Koreans have a culture that is theirs, and is something which they can identify themselves with. Can't say the same from back home as it's such a melting pot.

In response to the question OP, can't say there is one particular answer that can be given. From working in a public school though I haven't seemed to have rocked the boat as I eat their food, bow when it's appropriate, dress well, act "kind" and don't complain.
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cruisemonkey



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While standing in Lee Sun-shin's barracks, I had fun listening to Mr. Kim explain how the Korean invention of iron allowed general/adimiral Lee to win the battle of Hansan-Do. One of my smart-ass comments cracked up a fellow FT (who I haven't seen since)... and the others just sailed over everone's head.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurtz wrote:

At least Koreans have a culture that is theirs, and is something which they can identify themselves with. Can't say the same from back home as it's such a melting pot.


Er, that's a pretty grey area, especially when some things in Korea seem unchangeable and others change so quickly. Talk to some Koreans who've come to visit after many years away. They'll tell you that in some ways the country looks unrecognisable. Canada, on the other hand, sure doesn't after eight years away (apart from the pine beatles that have killed half the forest). Some of the very things that defined Korean culture a generation ago no longer matter to many people, whereas things that define Korean culture today (take the 방 entertainment culture, for instance) might be distant memories 25 years from now. This is not to mention the fact that there are in fact two, not one, Korean cultures which are unknown to each other. Should they ever join Korea will become a very interesting melting pot indeed.
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newinseoul



Joined: 22 Sep 2005
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: korean expectations Reply with quote

ilovespaghetti wrote:
Hi.
If you've worked in Korea for more than a year do Koreans expect you to be alot like them and adjust? Do they expect you to behave much more like them?

Do they expect you to bow and never complain and never buck the system?

Many Koreans do expect you to never buck the system. Some Koreans are more understanding and tolerant than others. However, generally you should do what you are told. Think about Confucianism, and the hierarchy in Korean society. It is a top down society. We, as foreigners don't really fit into the model, but I'd suffice to say that we aren't near the top.
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MissLady717



Joined: 04 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iammac2002 wrote:
Don't you just love how they don't want us to be us, but they so want to be like America? They want to be the new world power!


so funny. i remember watching some korean drama subbed in chinese last month with my dad, when this CRAZY korean commercial came on.

something along the lines of: "korea is great. korea is best. you love korea. you only want to go to korea. korea is better than all countries. instead of japan why not come to korea? japan doesn't have this and that. korea does. you love korea. everyone loves korea."

i swear. it was like subliminal messaging for a good 10 minutes. complete with the flashing background pictures of korea's land, food, and people. lol.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: Re: korean expectations Reply with quote

newinseoul wrote:
We, as foreigners don't really fit into the model, but I'd suffice to say that we aren't near the top.

Speak for yourself. I'm old, male and am referred to as "cruisemonkey song-sang-nim". It may be meaningless to the rest of the world, but at my school there are only four people who 'out rank' me.
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WendyRose



Joined: 10 Dec 2008
Location: hanam-si, seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmbfan wrote:
For fun, you could tell them how Koreans act in other countries.


1. Don't mix in the population.
2. Isolate themselves.
3. Don't eat anything but Korean food.
4. Don't adapt to the host culture
5. Koreans take their culture with them and don't let go.


Seiously, they can't have it both ways. Korea is not that important.

dmbfan


This is a gross generalization.
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phoneboothface



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, no and no.

Be yourself. Please.
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