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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Struggling for examples then? (salt? pepper? sugar? oil?) |
Uhm, yeah the basics of cooking, including flour and the other stuff.
You really don't know how to cook from scratch do you...Yes, they don't have gravy in a can here. You have to get grease and fat stock from your chicken and combine it with flour and pepper and maybe an egg.
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| There are vegetables, fruit, flour, sugar, salt, pepper, oil, seafood, beef, pork, and chicken available |
Yes vegetables, fruit, and flour are bizarre examples of ingredients. From now on I will stick to the ordinairy like hay or truffles 
The reason I listed BASICS and not an extensive list of everything available was that there is this idea called 'brevity'. I don't need to list out every vegetable available when I can just say vegetables.
It's just that in order to get some things you want, you have to go back a step and make it from scratch. In order to get a decent spaghetti sauce I have to buy whole tomatoes and puree them myself, mince the garlic myself, find the other seasonings and chop them, etc.
Yes, I know Korea dosen't have a wide variety of western-based seasonings and products, but that is made up for in the diversity of eastern-based things.
What exactly is your definition of quality products?
As for things that can't be prepared here, I have to add oatmeal. I don't think I've seen it anywhere, but there is plenty of rice porridge.
Besides Fresh vegetables and fruit should make up a generous portion of one's intake and that's available here in spades. Most of the rest should come from some sort of carbohydrates- flour or rice. Last time I checked both of those are around took.
Really the biggest hindrance to full on cooking is the lack of full sized ovens in the studios we get. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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If one has the aesthetical capacity and sophistication of a dungbeetle, then yes, there may, possibily, be everything you need. |
Have you read A Confederacy of Dunces? |
No. Why? |
Ah, give it a read. Really, fantastic book. Quick read too. You'll understand why.
http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/3049.John_Kennedy_Toole |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK
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| Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
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| Struggling for examples then? (salt? pepper? sugar? oil?) |
Uhm, yeah the basics of cooking, including flour and the other stuff.
You really don't know how to cook from scratch do you...Yes, they don't have gravy in a can here. You have to get grease and fat stock from your chicken and combine it with flour and pepper and maybe an egg.
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| There are vegetables, fruit, flour, sugar, salt, pepper, oil, seafood, beef, pork, and chicken available |
Yes vegetables, fruit, and flour are bizarre examples of ingredients. From now on I will stick to the ordinairy like hay or truffles
The reason I listed BASICS and not an extensive list of everything available was that there is this idea called 'brevity'. I don't need to list out every vegetable available when I can just say vegetables.
It's just that in order to get some things you want, you have to go back a step and make it from scratch. In order to get a decent spaghetti sauce I have to buy whole tomatoes and puree them myself, mince the garlic myself, find the other seasonings and chop them, etc.
Yes, I know Korea dosen't have a wide variety of western-based seasonings and products, but that is made up for in the diversity of eastern-based things.
What exactly is your definition of quality products?
As for things that can't be prepared here, I have to add oatmeal. I don't think I've seen it anywhere, but there is plenty of rice porridge.
Besides Fresh vegetables and fruit should make up a generous portion of one's intake and that's available here in spades. Most of the rest should come from some sort of carbohydrates- flour or rice. Last time I checked both of those are around took.
Really the biggest hindrance to full on cooking is the lack of full sized ovens in the studios we get. |
Do you always foam at the mouth when someone's view differs from your own? And over such a trivial issue? I shudder to think at the kind of parenting you've received. The selection of quality ingredients and products in Korea's supermarkets is awful, just awful. All the angry froth and bluster in the world won't alter that view. I have no further comments to make. |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe he is just worried that you are missing what is really here. If you are close to a Big Mart, Home Plus, E-mart, Lotte Mart, etc. you will have a huge selection of about anything you would find in a huge market in the west, except for limes. But, sometimes they have limes at Big Marts. In addition to having everything that is in the west, they have so many things that you can't find. Wider selection of produce, and of course seafood. Also, the above metioned stores have seafood that is canned, dried, fresh, frozen, and still alive.
If you are in a more rule type area, then you can go (best choice) to the gajillions of al fresco markest and get even fresher produce, and meats of all kinds. Get your spices, flour, oils, and such basics in the larger stores and then fresh on a daily basis from the outdoor markets.
If you have cooking facilities and a fridge, this is cooking paradise.
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry but I don't see the froth and bluster. I do see a refusal of you to offer any specifics on the issue of what prevents you from cooking and what 'quality ingredients' you are denied here. As I have said before, most of the raw ingredients for preparing a tasty meal are available either at your local supermarket, or on a weekend trip to an e-mart/costco. If you are realy desperate, there are still more ingredients that are available through online purchase and delivery.
So really there is no excuse for 'lack of options'. Really it is "I don't want to take the time and effort to prepare food I like, so instead I'm going to complain about the local food. It's the Koreans fault I can't get a tasty meal." You're an adult, if you want to eat something, you go out and you make it somehow.
Yes they don't have Lea & Perrins here or some other things, but that dosen't make the supermarkets here awful, or prevent anyone from making a good meal like the one they are used to at home.
As I said before, at least for me, the biggest gap is in the area of cheeses. But then I shouldn't have cheese everyday.
This all got started when some poster, not Mr. Stefanuto, claimed that there were no options for what they can eat here. I pointed out that they do have options- in the form of cooking. Mr. Stefanuto then jumped in and then tried to assert that the supermarkets did not provide you with the necessary options. Then we started to debate how that was or was not the case.
As for the kind of parenting I received, I was parented well enough to know that you don't bring up other people's parents during a debate over cooking options. Or am I mistaken and in fact, it is good form to bring up someone's parents during a debate on cooking and ingredients? Besides if the issue is trivial, you don't mention someone's parents.
I believe in light of this, the one foaming would be you sir. |
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