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greasypeanut



Joined: 28 Apr 2009
Location: songtan

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:12 pm    Post subject: teach? teach what? Reply with quote

i dont really know what to do with my high school students. as it is, i have 3 korean co-teachers that teach the students from a textbook. and what they want me doing is teaching them something else. like today, i tought them about the weather. (did a short power point, had them do a worksheet, and then had them try to make a short play/skit on the weather)

now the hard part is that these students barely know any english at all. ive had much longer conversations with elementary kids here. all they really know, or seem to know is "hello" "how are you" "i am good". as such my co-teacher is doing most of the talking.

does anyone have any ideas on what to do with these kids? i dont know what i could possibly do that would last an hour. sure i could play games, but i ran out of ideas and material, we can only play vocabulary pictionary so many times. and i can't play any thing more complicated than that, because they just don't know enough.

im sure theres some people in the same situation as me, can ya share some of your ideas?
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to answer this but thought I will waite until September as the semester is almost over. I hope you just started this job in the last few weeks?
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greasypeanut



Joined: 28 Apr 2009
Location: songtan

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, yes i did.
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espoir



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Incheon, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The semester has 2 weeks left in it. Play some movies and then wait for the summer break
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greasypeanut



Joined: 28 Apr 2009
Location: songtan

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe yeah i just talked to my coteachers...tahts what im going to do. simpsons movie ftw. this thread can die now.
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Bob_Salad



Joined: 03 Jul 2009
Location: Same Shoes, Different Hat.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've got complete autonomy, then I'd invest in a book over the summer. You didn't state whether you're HS is vocational, technical or academic. Either way, get yourself down to Kyobo. I'd personally recommend:

You may be able to find book 1, although I've never seen it (I think YBS has it so he may be along shortly and add a comment as to how good it is etc). I've been using 2 at my Academic HS for the past 2-years. It's really good. I'm selling my copy as I'm out of here in about 7-weeks if you're interested. I'll also include a CD-ROM of the first 12 of the 16 units in PPT form. (Here's a sample for you to download so as to get an idea of both the level and content etc).

As you can see, each of the units has 3 dialogues plus a load of other activites. All you'd need to do is photocopy each unit from the book for your students and then run the PPT through the classroom PC-->TV (assuming you have one in your classroom that is). I used to teach in the library, which was much better than a classroom as you've got much more space and (in my school) a huge screen. I also added slides (dialogue comprehension questions and additional related grammar exercises etc) to some of the units. Each unit will take about 3-weeks to work through depending on how extensively you drill and how often you see your studnets etc. So, ignoring cancelled classes and tests that come up each semester, the book should last you for at least a year and a half, but I suspect it could last for up to about 2-years if your school is anything like mine. I bought my copy at the start of my second semester, so I've been using it for 3-semesters now and I only got up to unit 10 with my second graders.

I can't PM, so post if you're interested.

*Edit*
The unit I've linked to is actually incomplete. Basically, each unit is formatted the same and ends with a review, pronunciation exercises and a fairly extensive reading activity.
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Gary-Korea



Joined: 23 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greasypeanut! Im in exactly the same situation at my Technical High School aswell. They said to me on the first day that I had complete autonomy over what I teach and also not to use the normal textbooks. I asked for help on here the other day aswell and got a couple of good ideas. First of all, English Communication 1 and 2 by Putlack and secondly, this website:

http://iteslj.org/t/tmm/

Tell Me More has to be by far the most complete resource ive found for lesson plans on the internet. Im looking forward to a stress free new semester using these resources.

I hope that helps!
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Gary-Korea



Joined: 23 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Bob_Salad

If Greasypeanut doesn't take you up on the offer of the textbook and PPT CD-rom then im definately interested.

Even a copy of the PPT CD-rom would be very useful on its own if we could sort that out? Let me know!
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espoir



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Incheon, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob_Salad wrote:
If you've got complete autonomy, then I'd invest in a book over the summer. You didn't state whether you're HS is vocational, technical or academic. Either way, get yourself down to Kyobo. I'd personally recommend:

You may be able to find book 1, although I've never seen it (I think YBS has it so he may be along shortly and add a comment as to how good it is etc). I've been using 2 at my Academic HS for the past 2-years. It's really good. I'm selling my copy as I'm out of here in about 7-weeks if you're interested. I'll also include a CD-ROM of the first 12 of the 16 units in PPT form. (Here's a sample for you to download so as to get an idea of both the level and content etc).

As you can see, each of the units has 3 dialogues plus a load of other activites. All you'd need to do is photocopy each unit from the book for your students and then run the PPT through the classroom PC-->TV (assuming you have one in your classroom that is). I used to teach in the library, which was much better than a classroom as you've got much more space and (in my school) a huge screen. I also added slides (dialogue comprehension questions and additional related grammar exercises etc) to some of the units. Each unit will take about 3-weeks to work through depending on how extensively you drill and how often you see your studnets etc. So, ignoring cancelled classes and tests that come up each semester, the book should last you for at least a year and a half, but I suspect it could last for up to about 2-years if your school is anything like mine. I bought my copy at the start of my second semester, so I've been using it for 3-semesters now and I only got up to unit 10 with my second graders.

I can't PM, so post if you're interested.

*Edit*
The unit I've linked to is actually incomplete. Basically, each unit is formatted the same and ends with a review, pronunciation exercises and a fairly extensive reading activity.


I have the first book and use as a reference book for many of my lessons. It is very nicely structured and provides a lot of reinforcement material. Only at the end of each unit they do a little phonetics review, so it is amazingly useful.

The only problem i find with it, is that its highly repetitive. Which is why I take some ideas from it and then create my own worksheets.

But for technical highschools or even middle schools book 1 is perfect!
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are lucky enough not to have to use a book then don't use a book. There are a lot better ways to learn conversational English than using dialogues and books.
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i



Joined: 10 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a copier? Wordsearch, crossword puzzles, etc. Just type ESL wordsearch in google, and you'll find tons of resources like that.) If you have a projector, Mr Bean and just stop the video here and there and ask what he is doing. Kids seem pretty competitive in trying to say what he's doing.
I finished my book and have some time, so it's a lot of games and videos.
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Silk



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.D. wrote:
If you are lucky enough not to have to use a book then don't use a book. There are a lot better ways to learn conversational English than using dialogues and books.


I would love to see you explain this statement. Having worked in a classroom of 35-40 students who don't really need English (no motivation), can't really speak English (low/false beginners), and have been conditioned to passively receive instruction via the information delivery model of teaching(non participatory) your short confident statement alluding to these many ways of better learning sounds completely bogus. "Conversational English" with low level students is the biggest myth of ESL in Asia due to the obdurate nature of their learning context, often propagated by people who have never actually had to teach such a class.


To the OP, by all means use a textbook, don't slave away creating material when it is likely you were never taught how to do so; there is no reason for each public school teacher to be their own R&D department, reinventing the wheel is such a waste of time, there are good txtbooks out there.
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