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Thoughts on Korea from one year contract- link to travelogue
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Sean02



Joined: 19 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:54 am    Post subject: Thoughts on Korea from one year contract- link to travelogue Reply with quote

A file here of my impressions, for anyone interested. Sean

http://www.box.net/shared/tx20up2u9c
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that. I'm going to use it in some form as a culturally relativistic primer in one of the courses I teach.

All I can say is that you really need to A) experience and live a little more before attempting this kind of "authoritative" voice and style of writing B) learn and study a little of what a culture IS (no culture is "shallow" or all the other terms you assign - that might only be one's experience of it. )

I'm sorry you view things with such a grey filter and myopic ethnocentric blinders. Mustn't be easy to wander the world and see it so cloudy.

In technology, we say, "garbage in = garbage out." Seems to me, you've only seen what you are.......

DD
http://eflclassroom.com

PS. Please don't take this as "personal". I'm only reflecting on the small amount that you wrote.
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Zantetsuken



Joined: 21 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah dude...don't be using those myopic ethnocentric blinder thingies. Make sure you get a set like ddeubel has...his blinders are 우리나라 approved!!!!
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climber159



Joined: 02 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, you've managed to explain in this garrulous piece that things are different in Korea from what you are accustomed to back home. I've been here two years and there are plenty of aspects of Korea that I'm fairly certain I will never understand or enjoy; but, it's far more interesting and enjoyable if you at least try to figure out how you can manage in a different place. Might I suggest you first get rid of the notion that the UK is the zenith of culture and being.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you this guy's - http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9B05EFD7123DE433A25754C1A9649C94649ED7CF - great-great grandson by any chance?
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought this guy nailed it. There's nothing in this article that I haven't heard about (or experienced) in Korea.

However, I can see how his Oxford Professor, analytical writing, style would bug some of our North American bretheren.

I think this should be re-written in plain Englisheeee, and given out to newbies at orientation. It would save a lot of heartache, all round.
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMFG LOL... how are English people STILL this condescending toward other cultures? This reads like those essays Jack London wrote about Korea about 100 years ago. Hilarious, a must read!
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before I read all that, can somebody tell if its worth reading?
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benji1422



Joined: 02 Jun 2009
Location: Los Angeles & Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please resign yourself as the resident east asian academic as you have just wasted your time writing 10,000 words which are barely writing... only typing (I only got through 4 pages ) of drivel with seemingly no thesis and naive, superficial statements which never end. Some of your observations have merit as to a "why?" but you have failed to investigate any of them except with the most purile explanations... . I think your problem is this school wanted to impress the white guy, elevated you to some kind of high status, with money and respect, and you now believe their bulls--, that you actually KNOW something more than the rest of the uneducated peons. Believe me, you are completely wrapped in a naive arrogance which is cute when you are in college, but is annoyingly dangerous in the end, and stunning dangerous to export back to the home office... as we have seen with the foreign policy of the last 10 years coming from the geniuses in the U.S. government who think they have all the rubes in the non-white world figured out and can impress on them their superior way of behaving.

Suggestion: get the hell out of that godforsaken hick town, move to a city, (Seoul) get some Korean friends, get some hard knocks, get out of your internet bubble, fight an ajumma, learn the language, date some locals... and then make your astute observations.
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RufusW



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
"I made little effort with the Korean language even though that didn�t look good, having better things to do and it being one of the ugliest and most congested sounding I�ve heard, with strong tendency to being shouted."


I'm definitely reading all of this, unfortunately it doesn't sound very academic at all, but it'll be interesting to hear your thoughts.

20,000 words!
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Zantetsuken



Joined: 21 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even though I'm a septic and of ill-repute...I thought it was pretty good. I didn't agree with everything he said.....but he made some observations that I never thought of.
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Sean02



Joined: 19 Jan 2008

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