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BritishinSuwon
Joined: 17 May 2008
Location: No longer in Suwon! Now kicking it in Shanghai
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| Kurtz wrote: |
| People without sleep disorders just can't imagine what it's like. |
Truer words have NEVER been spoken.
I was diagnosed with a sleeping disorder in my second year of university, (went for all the fun testing -- people watching me sleep, monitors attached to my temples, all the fun stuff). I still suffer from times of very poor (or no) sleep.
Sleeping disorders are hell. |
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mheartley
Joined: 18 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:45 am Post subject: |
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Sleeping pills in my experiences are horrible stuff. I mean they may work for some people, but I would say they're not for persistent insomnia but more for temporary adjustments in the sleeping patterns of people who generally get a good nights' sleep anyway.
I haven't found anything that particularly helps personally, I've never slept particularly well because I don't switch off of an evening, even if I'm exhausted (often if I'm physically worn out I sleep even worse). I've learned to live around it, even though it's hard going sometimes. You certainly lose out on some quality of life. |
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iammac2002
Joined: 12 Jun 2009
Location: 'n Beter plek.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:23 am Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| I sleep rather late. I am a night owl. I go to bed sometimes at around 3 a.m. and get up at 11:30. |
Yeah, me too. I rarely go to bed before 2 or 3, and it only bothers me if I have to get up at 9 to go to private classes. Guess my internal clock still hasn't adjusted to 'normal' waking and sleeping times, even after nearly a year!!! |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:31 am Post subject: |
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I usually go to bed at 9pm and wake up at 5am. I often wake up naturally five min before the alarm.
It's 9:30pm now. Waiting for laundry. Going to be a little tired tomorrow.  |
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brainfreeze
Joined: 04 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| mheartley wrote: |
Sleeping pills in my experiences are horrible stuff. I mean they may work for some people, but I would say they're not for persistent insomnia but more for temporary adjustments in the sleeping patterns of people who generally get a good nights' sleep anyway.
I haven't found anything that particularly helps personally, I've never slept particularly well because I don't switch off of an evening, even if I'm exhausted (often if I'm physically worn out I sleep even worse). I've learned to live around it, even though it's hard going sometimes. You certainly lose out on some quality of life. |
There's various types of sleeping pills though. Are you talking about something like Diazepam, or Lorazepam (Benzos) that you take occasionally, a barbituate or something like a Z-class sedative?
Personally I'd go for something over the counter like Phenergan (only for occasional use) since as an anti-histamine it has very few side effects and is non addictive unlike the Benzos. I find that for some people it really knocks them out. If the initial 10mg doesn't work it's safe at 20mg.
It's still worthwhile getting yourself to a sleep clinic especially if you find yourself sleeping in the day time, as someone mentioned above because you could have a form of sleep apnea. |
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iammac2002
Joined: 12 Jun 2009
Location: 'n Beter plek.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| Well, if it's your first few (maybe 3) months here, you might just find yourself falling asleep WHILE teaching -in midsentence. Seriously, all my South African ex-colleagues and myself did that a few times last year. |
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Emeliu
Joined: 31 Mar 2009
Location: Korea, i'm OMW
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| I have an amazing power to set an alarm clock in my head. Today I decided I wanted to sleep just 4 hours so I could wake up and skype my girlfriend in Korea. I set my alarm for 6AM, woke up at 5:50. 90% of the time this is how my body works, I can't imagine having a sleeping issue. :\ |
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i
Joined: 10 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Straphanger wrote: |
| Halcyon? Ambien? The old Tryciclics? Yeah. They've got it. And they'll give them to you, for the asking! (not a joke) |
A qualified Dr will set you up. They'd rather do that than someone fall asleep with soju every night (when given that option.)
It's not for everyone, but that's why the doc is involved. |
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Abacus
Joined: 03 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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When you wake up is it light in your room (due to the sun rising)? I'm having trouble with this right now sometimes. I'm up at 5am unless I was really tired then I can sleep until 7am after stirring a few times.
I tried some sleeping pills (whatever the popular advertised ones are) 4-5 yrs ago and didn't like them. I think I slept a little better but I found that I couldn't get motivated during exercise (from an adrenaline standpoint). I would go and play competitive volleyball (or workout) and I would just go thru the motions. It was like it eliminated the peaks and valleys during the day but I needed to be able to get the adrenaline flowing. |
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Chet Wautlands
Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Abacus wrote: |
| When you wake up is it light in your room (due to the sun rising)? I'm having trouble with this right now sometimes. I'm up at 5am unless I was really tired then I can sleep until 7am after stirring a few times. |
I had this problem last month. I put up blankets on my windows so that my room is very dark even in the middle of the day. Helped my sleeping for a while, but now I'm waking up at 2 am for some reason. Maybe I need more exercise. I dunno... we'll see! |
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP
Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Electron cloud
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| mheartley wrote: |
Sleeping pills in my experiences are horrible stuff. I mean they may work for some people, but I would say they're not for persistent insomnia but more for temporary adjustments in the sleeping patterns of people who generally get a good nights' sleep anyway.
I haven't found anything that particularly helps personally, I've never slept particularly well because I don't switch off of an evening, even if I'm exhausted (often if I'm physically worn out I sleep even worse). I've learned to live around it, even though it's hard going sometimes. You certainly lose out on some quality of life. |
If you see my previous post in this thread, you'll see I had the same problem (probably more extreme than any of you lot....)
The only thing, only thing that ever worked was gentle hatha yoga before bed. Been insomnia free for around one and a half years sinceI first started it. Started getting full nights sleep complete with dreams after just the 3rd r 4th session. Just use a dvd at home, pretty easy and low maintenance...
Sorry if I come across as a new age hippy.... |
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samcheokguy
Joined: 02 Nov 2008
Location: Samcheok G-do
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I'll have a tall vodka and two Dark Knight Joker's please. |
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Chet Wautlands
Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I'll try that yoga. What is the DVD called? |
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bluzusi
Joined: 29 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| brainfreeze wrote: |
It's still worthwhile getting yourself to a sleep clinic especially if you find yourself sleeping in the day time, as someone mentioned above because you could have a form of sleep apnea. |
I agree with brainfreeze. Getting things checked out at a sleep clinic is a good idea. Should it be discovered that you suffer from sleep apnea you'll benefit greatly by getting it treated early on. Failing to get it treated can lead to avoidable, long term health problems. I nearly waited too long in seeking medical attention for sleep apnea. Don't make the same mistake I did. Best of luck. |
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PeteJB
Joined: 06 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Eh, my sleep pattern is just screwed up beyond imagination. Sleeping at all different hours, getting up at different times - What I had of a routine is now completely destroyed. I've even had to do all nighters for fear of 'not waking up' at the right times. I'm pretty sure what's causing my oversleeping though. |
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