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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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 Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:59 am Post subject: 2X the work, 2/3 the pay...EPIK camp |
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So I went to the Gyeong buk EPIK meeting today in Daegu.
Blah blah blah.....just getting to the good part.
In previous years, the NET's were expected to put in about 23 hours during the week. There were 8 NETs for each location. The pay was a little over 900,000.
Flash forward to this years camps.
There are only 4 NET's. They will take up the work of the other 4, which means....including the 8:10am - 8:55am meeting, it's 46 hours for the week.
(The week runs from 10am monday to noon friday...so that's packing a lot of hours in. 8:10am - 8:30+pm.)
The pay? 600-something thousand Won. it's based on doing the 22 contract hours, and then a cut rate OT pay.
So....twice the work, two thirds the pay.
Sparkle Korea, just sparkle. I feel a case of swine flu kicking in...
See next thread regarding (questions about) OT.... |
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marlow
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| EPIK has turned into an epic suck. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:36 am Post subject: |
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I wonder if the new conditions have anything to do with the new provincial education president. The elections were a few months ago. It wouldn't surprise me to find out this new policy "More English for fewer Won" was his idea.
In my personal opinion, hagwons have now gained the upper hand in attractiveness as a workplace, despite the problems of getting paid, taxes, pensions, etc. |
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marlow
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| Busan is sucking big time these days. I think they are just high on the glut of teachers. |
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sugarkane59
Joined: 10 Jun 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| Wow... only joined barely a month ago and someone has finally said something positive about hagwons and something negative about PS in new threads. Are the tables a-turning? |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| Don't get too excited sugarkane...it's only a matter of the smell of the poop you prefer. It's still poop. Personally, I LOVE the smell of cow flops. But that's just this farm boys preference. |
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RufusW
Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| marlow wrote: |
| Busan is sucking big time these days. I think they are just high on the glut of teachers. |
How many weeks of summer camp are you doing in Busan Marlowe? |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| RufusW wrote: |
| marlow wrote: |
| Busan is sucking big time these days. I think they are just high on the glut of teachers. |
How many weeks of summer camp are you doing in Busan Marlowe? |
I'm doing two weeks with no extra money. I used to do three weeks for an extra 2.5M. |
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halfmanhalfbiscuit
Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| marlow wrote: |
| RufusW wrote: |
| marlow wrote: |
| Busan is sucking big time these days. I think they are just high on the glut of teachers. |
How many weeks of summer camp are you doing in Busan Marlowe? |
I'm doing two weeks with no extra money. I used to do three weeks for an extra 2.5M. |
Was the money provisioned for by the BOE or paid by students?
ie are the schools "saving" money or making money from camps? |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote: |
| marlow wrote: |
| RufusW wrote: |
| marlow wrote: |
| Busan is sucking big time these days. I think they are just high on the glut of teachers. |
How many weeks of summer camp are you doing in Busan Marlowe? |
I'm doing two weeks with no extra money. I used to do three weeks for an extra 2.5M. |
Was the money provisioned for by the BOE or paid by students?
ie are the schools "saving" money or making money from camps? |
Students. Basically the Korean teachers were jealous of my extra cash (as they sit on higher salaries and watch their pay go up each year). I blame the current situation to an influx of mediocre foreign teachers and the mass exposure of foreign teachers to bitter, older Korean teachers. |
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halfmanhalfbiscuit
Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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It's a familiar story really.
Jobs are made attractive enough for people to come, then conditions are contracted to the point that there's a shortfall in "product" ie teachers...then we start again.
Seems they use the same business model as any, say, Pizza shack. Slowly downgrade product til enough people notice.
I dare say it hasn't finished yet. Any grumblings from teachers will invite attempts to impose more control on those said "inconsistencies" and accept foreign staff on a rolling product basis. I find the camp thing a bit objectionable-the classes are just babysitting and schools are treating teachers as an in-school moneyspinner (I was expected to teach local housewives until I put my foot down at my HS)
And the end benefit for the students is...???Well, what do they have to do with it??  |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| As more and more of our unemployed westerner brethren flood in here conditions are going to get worse and worse. One day we'll wake up and things will be like Japan (no airfare or accommodation). |
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halfmanhalfbiscuit
Joined: 13 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| asylum seeker wrote: |
| As more and more of our unemployed westerner brethren flood in here conditions are going to get worse and worse. One day we'll wake up and things will be like Japan (no airfare or accommodation). |
Better beer? Brighter, more cheerful,cleaner, more reliable electronics, non-agoraphobic culture, more park drinking etc etc.
As if. |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote: |
| asylum seeker wrote: |
| As more and more of our unemployed westerner brethren flood in here conditions are going to get worse and worse. One day we'll wake up and things will be like Japan (no airfare or accommodation). |
Better beer? Brighter, more cheerful,cleaner, more reliable electronics, non-agoraphobic culture, more park drinking etc etc.
As if. |
Ok then, not exactly like Japan.  |
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RufusW
Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| marlow wrote: |
| I'm doing two weeks with no extra money. I used to do three weeks for an extra 2.5M. |
It seems maybe 2 weeks is around standard in EPIK. But yea, brutal reduction in pay, especially if you miss out on it in winter as well. |
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